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    Seeking inspiration

    I am seeking inspiration for my next watch toward the end of this year.

    Currently in the box is

    • Vacheron overseas gen 2 in white
    • Patek aquanaut
    • ALS 1815 updown in white gold
    • Stowa Antea creme
    • Dornbluth on route early next year delivery date.



    I have added a bit of “heft” and sports to the collection recently in the Vacheron and the DDS so leaning towards the more dressy sense. Current runners are rose gold ALS of some sort, white gold JLC ultra thin moon.

    Guidance criteria as below
    • Less than 20k to spend
    • Interested in Rose gold
    • Must be sub 10mm thick
    • Preference for 3 handers, or if complicated that it’s a relatively clean face.
    • Would like maybe a discreet rose gold watch
    • Not a Rolex
    • Not an ALS or Breguet as I have looked at a million options there already so seeking something different to what I had already looked at, thought of it maybe not even heard of.
    • I do like German styling these days a lot.



    Any idea that perhaps I have not looked at?

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    Seeking inspiration

    Sorry, didn’t see that you’ve already ruled out an ALS.

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    Seems like a Patek Calatrava 5196 might fit that bill.


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    Damn... think I'd just sit back and enjoy what I had in your shoes!

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    Something by Lang & Heyne from Dresden, although you might struggle at £20k

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    Time and Tide did an article on 5 lesser known German brands in October 2020 (haven't included link in case that's not allowed).

    Kudoke seem well regarded.

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    Any particular reason not Breguet or is there nothing they produce that floats your boat?
    Edit , sorry didn’t read post properly
    Last edited by klunk; 3rd May 2021 at 12:14.

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    Discrete Rose gold three hander, under £20k?

    Moser Endeavour.

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    Rose gold JLC ultra thin of some sort. Maybe a small seconds. Keep the change.

    https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us/...d/1212510.html

    "Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so”. HHGTTG


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    Yes, that would be on my list

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    Nomos Glashütte Metro Rose Gold Neomatik 39


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    Quote Originally Posted by J J Carter View Post
    Yes, that would be on my list

    That is class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1011 View Post
    Damn... think I'd just sit back and enjoy what I had in your shoes!


    Just need one more...


    Quote Originally Posted by kinyik View Post
    Seems like a Patek Calatrava 5196 might fit that bill.


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    It’s on the list but a little too boring for me. 5296r is on the list also with the printed nature of the sector dial adding a lot of character.

    Quote Originally Posted by kinyik View Post
    Sorry, didn’t see that you’ve already ruled out an ALS.
    Def not ruled it out. It’s the front runner. It’s just I have scoured the brand I know which models I would choose. Likely settle the current rose gold version of the up down which would match my current white gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helidoc View Post
    Something by Lang & Heyne from Dresden, although you might struggle at £20k

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    Had not seen them. Will take a look. Thanks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shubs View Post
    Time and Tide did an article on 5 lesser known German brands in October 2020 (haven't included link in case that's not allowed).

    Kudoke seem well regarded.
    Kudoke had popped up on my radar. As has the Austrian “Habring”. Jumping seconds model in particular.

    Quote Originally Posted by gbn13 View Post
    Discrete Rose gold three hander, under £20k?

    Moser Endeavour.
    Not quite for me. Though I had looked at the brand which has been getting a YouTube push here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J J Carter View Post
    Nomos Glashütte Metro Rose Gold Neomatik 39

    I don’t think I could get a Nomos in Rose gold. Though I love their styling, had an ahoi and got rid but will replace I suspect this year with a slightly small option.


    Quote Originally Posted by PawG View Post
    That is class.
    X 2. That’s a very mainstream option that I hadn’t even considered!

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    I think something a bit on the earthy, tough side. A Tudor Black Bay Bronze. If you can, aim to find a Bucherer, but they are pretty rare these days. Still, great value especially while they are still arguably undervalued.

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    Moritz Grossmann are worth a look - their boutique prices are double what dealers are actually selling at, so should be do-able across the more restrained parts of their ranges:

    This is nice -


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    Chronoswiss are always worth a look, too - like the various Sirius models, esp. the Manufacture models:




    Leave a lot of change from £20K too.

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    Santos De Cartier for a dual sports/bracelet and dress/leather strap watch, with the nice easy quick change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyjohn View Post
    I think something a bit on the earthy, tough side. A Tudor Black Bay Bronze. If you can, aim to find a Bucherer, but they are pretty rare these days. Still, great value especially while they are still arguably undervalued.

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    Left option rather than rose gold but I assume, based on most Tudor this would be too thick for my tastes.



    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Moritz Grossmann are worth a look - their boutique prices are double what dealers are actually selling at, so should be do-able across the more restrained parts of their ranges:

    This is nice -

    Stunning. Saw that brand before and it’s ok the 5 German brands article that is mentioned by another poster

    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Chronoswiss are always worth a look, too - like the various Sirius models, esp. the Manufacture models:




    Leave a lot of change from £20K too.
    That is rather lovely also and not a brand that would have popped on my radar! Will have a busy week sorting through some of these options.

    Could well still end up with a safe option. But the search is the fun.

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    Moser Endeavour, said with a hint of bias.




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    For a little more than budget you could go for a really high quality Haute piece in an Urban Jurgensen, 1140 ideally, would match your Lange nicely.
    Last edited by aksing; 3rd May 2021 at 19:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danstone View Post
    Moser Endeavour, said with a hint of bias.




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    I must say, the Moser are very good looking, rather lovely.

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    Seeking inspiration

    I just got the new Patek Calatrava in rose gold. It’s a tiny bit over budget but a 5196 might work as well. First gold watch and enjoying it.

    Moser look fantastic so do the Vacheron FiftySix three hand models. I like all the VCs though. JLC Ultra Thin is a real looker, tried one again the other week - good value in gold.
    Last edited by slever; 1st June 2021 at 01:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawG View Post
    That is class.
    Stunning in gold.

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    Given your collection, I would seriously consider the Breitling Ice-Blue


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    This fits in a a few of your rules but breaks most of them.

    https://www.chrono24.co.uk/jaegerlec...-id3008326.htm

    I only put it in here because if I had any amount to spend on a watch this (or a variant) would still be in the top 5.

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    I think you've already given the correct answer with the JLC ultra thin.

    Since you like German watches though have you thought about something from the GO vintage collection? This one fits all your criteria:


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    I would check out the Blancpain Villeret line.

    The big date, jour date, ultraplate would all be stunners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyjohn View Post
    Given your collection, I would seriously consider the Breitling Ice-Blue

    Very nice. Rarely glance at omega but that is a very aesthetic look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guinea View Post
    This fits in a a few of your rules but breaks most of them.

    https://www.chrono24.co.uk/jaegerlec...-id3008326.htm



    I only put it in here because if I had any amount to spend on a watch this (or a variant) would still be in the top 5.
    Stunning caseback but the most important rule is the thickness really. Has to be 10 mom or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aksing View Post
    For a little more than budget you could go for a really high quality Haute piece in an Urban Jurgensen, 1140 ideally, would match your Lange nicely.
    There's been quite a few of these on WatchCollecting which have gone for less than the budget after fees iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty View Post
    I think you've already given the correct answer with the JLC ultra thin.

    Since you like German watches though have you thought about something from the GO vintage collection? This one fits all your criteria:

    That's gorgeous. I wish someone would make a gold watch without a ridiculous mark-up over steel - i.e. just charge me the extra above your steel version to cover the extra material, rather than the extra material x10!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakazie! View Post
    There's been quite a few of these on WatchCollecting which have gone for less than the budget after fees iirc.
    What website is that? Not familiar with it. Any links?

    Urban J has been on my radar since I saw it mentioned on this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 893bet View Post
    What website is that? Not familiar with it. Any links?

    Urban J has been on my radar since I saw it mentioned on this thread!
    https://www.watchcollecting.com/?pag...ld&query=urban
    This is the site - Nothing live or upcoming for UJ at the moment. One must have not met the reserve yesterday as it was live when I looked.
    They've had 5 or 6 up for sale from the same dealer so you could always try contacting them if you can work out who they are.

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