Woodward pissing off also. How sad.
Edit...beaten to it.
What a glorious ending!Originally Posted by Chr1stof
How they could think just for a minute that they would get away with this BS is truly beyond my imagination. Twelve clubs, lots of senior management. Nobody told them that this had zero chance of success?
I am curious to see if there is any medium term fallout? Must be so many fans who are so disappointed, will they just return to their fan duties as soon as the stadiums open again?
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
I had a wry grin about the Real Madrid president complaining about debt and needing to earn more.
Stop buying players at 100-200million and paying players over 200K a week
Job done.
I'd say it has shag-all to do with him or HMG.Damned if he does and damned if he didn't
Yes, I hope this whole episode opens up a dialogue on how things can be truly reformed. Long time coming. Also hope these billionaire owners who are in it purely for financial returns are pushed out.
Woodward going is the grail but if chief instigator Perez goes then that would be the Holy grail, all of this was just his Real Madrid bailout as they have fallen behind the Premier League teams, he said the ESL would save football but he meant Real.
Govt legislation like Germany's on 49% private ownership only, should do the trick, hope Boris comes through, he's good at the Exits and it would be hugely popular.
Woodward was due to go anyway at the end of the year. This has only brought forward the announcement.
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I'm no Chelski fan but looking online he is being hailed as the saviour and a genuine owner, so looks like he's got away with dancing with the devil.
Enjoying the European Super League's new knockout format
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Spoken like a true fan.Damned if he does and damned if he didn't
That's Boris who was going to lie down in front of the bulldozers over the building of a third runway at Heathrow? He didn't.Damned if he does and damned if he didn't
Disgusted by my team Arsenal to the extent that I'm looking for a new team to support. I hope Arsenal get smashed by Villarreal now.
Loch Ness FC seem a good team, good football kit too
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
THe 'St Pauli' area of Hamburg.... I had a 'wonderful' weekend there once.. Great club btw with an interesting ethos behind them, infact the majority of German clubs with their fan input put the rest of European football to shame.
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Ill thought out and driven by greed.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
I hope Ed Woodward goes on to do another series of 'The Equalizer'. I really liked that programme.
They should give them a points deduction to make sure they don’t reach the Champions league next season as punishment.
Good wee night in "the Jolly Roger" about 3 yrs ago.
Apparently Arsenal are the latest now to pull out.
I just hope these clubs are punished for this stupid attempt.
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Just waiting for Liverpool’s statement blaming Everton .
Have you considered medical advice regarding your obsession with Liverpool?
All of them have now pulled out, over quicker than it started.
Re St Pauli, I would rather support Loch Ness FC than that mob.
You most obviously know nothing about Pauli or you wouldn't talk shite like that.
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
I know plenty about them thanks and I wouldnt swear in the general forum either.
Thanks for the advice, but you know nothing.
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
Well…. You can cheer up now Lee!
Guardiola hit the nail on the head
What a totally bizarre 48 hrs….
Now…. What punishment shall we doll out?
Dock you all 30 points this season would be nice!!!!
Ok and you know everything.
lol
It looks like they've all been very cute in their approach to this by saying they didn't want to leave the EPL, just play an extra midweek competition. Technically that probably means the EPL doesn't have grounds for punishments. UEFA on the other hand do and that'll be interesting for this seasons competitions and next.
Fair play to Arsenal on their statement “we made a mistake and we apologise for it”.
As Wolfie said Pep was brutally honest but he quite rightly called the other PL clubs cynical as well as calling out UEFA. It’s easy for the teams not invited to get on their high horse.
If UEFA and FIFA really cared about the game they wouldn’t have over commercialised it the way they have. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to understand why these organisations have their HQ’s in Switzerland.
I’ve been a City fan for over 45 years and it’s been a blast this past 10 years but these players are human and you see the scheduling and think it’s just gone too far. I’ll be watching Villa v City tomorrow but it won’t be with the same level of enthusiasm.
Found on Twitter “as a punishment, each of the six teams are to be managed by Jose for six months”.
No, have you sought it for your delusion , your revisionism or your blinkered outlook ?
Nope because I dont suffer from any of the above. I dont believe in odd conspiracy theories with rival football clubs and the police either or obsess over other football teams and try and shoe horn them into every conversation.
If you could point out where at any point I have been delusional, revisionist or blinkered regarding football please do.
As Kenneth Wolstenholme once said 'they think it's all over... it is now!'.
Well that was embarrassing. What’s for dinner Margery?
Football is broken because of greed. Look at UEFA and FIFA, corruption and wealth is right there in the governing bodies. I had to laugh when the UEFA president called the breakaway clubs greedy, pot kettle black me thinks.
Until there is an independent body running the game and that body is accountable for every penny generated and spent, then the game will never be anything but tarnished.
Let’s look back at how USFA ignored the FFP breaches by City and PSG with just a slap on the wrists. How the hell they can justify such weak punishments for their own strict rules is beyond me. You move on to the cash for world cups FIFA scandal, what more can you say. Then you have the FA being able to pay 1 billion to build Wembley, where did that money come from. It’s bent top down, from FIFA cash for bids to Man City creating fake sponsorship deals with his brothers company. Total joke.
Well said, most of them couldn’t lay in bed straight
😂😂
Not the 1st time Arsenal have left Europe early to be fair.
And as usual, they didn't really jump, they were pushed.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Great to see the fans exercise their power and the club's listeningI think they must have believed they could leverage compromise from UEFA before being seen as good guys for abandoning the ESL but fans shouldn't forget what these owners have done. That said, UEFA are not a great deal better and major change is needed all round.
John Barnes was just on BBC Breakfast talking a lot of sense.
This isn't a victory for fans or the working classes, it's been a power play/struggle between super wealthy people and organisations that has played out.
Ticket prices will still be sky high, TV rights (passed onto supporters as expensive Pay TV channels) will still be sky high, the constant round of stupidly expensive re-sponsored shirts/away kits/2nd-reserve-Thursday-night-matches kits will continue to leech money from the supporters and players (who seem to have been painted as purer than the driven snow by the media) will still be expecting ridiculous salaries to kick a ball around and carry out some ham acting in the penalty box.
Football isn't about sport, it's about money, so expect to see more of these shenanigans in the future.
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Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?
You only have to look at the decision to make some games pay per view during COVID which was quickly reversed to realise there are no organisations who can claim any moral high ground.
Someone lost a battle but the long game is to win the war. But at least everyone is now aware who/what is involved and why. Good on Guardiola etc for speaking out.
John W Henry puts out a grovelling apology on YouTube. Clearly shocked by the response since Sunday.
Looking forward to the other Chairmen getting up on their hind legs and fronting up...apparently Spurs thought it was the WSL they were joining.
Inter back pedalling but Juventus and Real seemingly doubling down. The power struggle isn’t over quite yet, but Sky will be reporting otherwise because of course they have their Premier League back and that’s all they care about.
Isn't Crystal Palace the closest club to Arsenal, I wouldn't really know as I've never been south of the river, ha.
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Yup, just hearing that Perez and Real Madrid and Juve still want to go ahead, they are so desperate to save Real I think the Bailout/ESL might still go ahead with 6 teams if it means Real can get some cash and stay in business, Perez has called the English clubs traitors - yeah we English are traitors to your Spanish Bailout Dream, he's one mad delusional egomaniac.
A bloke on Talk Sport yesterday said he's been an Arsenal fan for 30+ years but switched to Palace four years ago. He was paying £1300 a season for his season ticket behind the goal yet the same seat at Palace is £580 for him and his son! And he loves the feeling of Palace being a more family based club than corporate Arsenal.
How do you switch teams???
I would just give up personally
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