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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    A number of people commented on Facebook that the "Commander" text made it a watch for Walts.

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    Righty… I think I’d still go with the commander text. But either way it’s a looker, the Smiths Commander has a nice ring to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrudd View Post
    Were they Speedmaster wearing astronauts or CWC diver wearing navy divers?
    Lol…


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    Well, it's a Smiths with a black bezel. How about calling it an ASTRAL ?

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    Defo oyster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelykins View Post
    Defo oyster

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    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Definitely the oyster Bracelet mate :-)

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    I just think a watch with a name is nicer than one identified solely by a model code.
    This concept started as an Everest variant, until it was poined out that an Everest Diver made no sense.
    I came up with Commander because it was JB's Naval rank, and it seemed appropriate to this design as an 3-6-9-dialled sub homage.
    It was not conceived to give the impression of military capability, and anyone who thinks it was is both wrong and perhaps needs to consider their own attitudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    I just think a watch with a name is nicer than one identified solely by a model code.
    This concept started as an Everest variant, until it was poined out that an Everest Diver made no sense.
    I came up with Commander because it was JB's Naval rank, and it seemed appropriate to this design as an 3-6-9-dialled sub homage.
    It was not conceived to give the impression of military capability, and anyone who thinks it was is both wrong and perhaps needs to consider their own attitudes.
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    The name is great. I think it would look better in a nice subtle script instead of the block letters identical to the Commando. Maybe the one line of script with a red 200m underneath?
    Well done Eddie! I’ve been following this thread and have been wondering for a couple years when you would make something like this.

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    I have no objection to the name either, just preferred the subtle smaller print on the revised model


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    I really like this one and I think that it will be a huge success in the resale market. It would certainly be worth adding £100 to the sale price here.

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    Look at what I've been playing with

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Of course, the next debate is Oyster or Jubilee? I can't do both because the minimum order for bracelets is the same as for watches, which is 300 and I'll only be ordering 300 for the first run.

    Eddie
    Why not Oyster and Jubilee?

    You’ve sold watches with more than one strap option before, why not two bracelets?

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    Look at what I've been playing with

    Quote Originally Posted by Templogin View Post
    I really like this one and I think that it will be a huge success in the resale market. It would certainly be worth adding £100 to the sale price here.
    I agree with that logic!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Why not Oyster and Jubilee?

    You’ve sold watches with more than one strap option before, why not two bracelets?
    Brilliant suggestion!

    T.G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Why not Oyster and Jubilee?

    You’ve sold watches with more than one strap option before, why not two bracelets?
    Cost. The minimum order is 300 watches and also 300 of each type of bracelet.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Look at what I've been playing with

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Cost. The minimum order is 300 watches and also 300 of each type of bracelet.

    Eddie
    I actually meant that you could supply the watch with both bracelets rather than just the one. Obviously the cost of the second bracelet would mean a higher price than with just one bracelet but, judging by prices achieved for your watches on eBay, the higher price is unlikely to be an issue.

    Of course, it all depends on what the bracelets are costing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    I actually meant that you could supply the watch with both bracelets rather than just the one. Obviously the cost of the second bracelet would mean a higher price than with just one bracelet but, judging by prices achieved for your watches on eBay, the higher price is unlikely to be an issue.
    But I have to pay up-front and such an order is likely to cost me around 200k.

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    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    But I have to pay up-front and such an order is likely to cost me around 200k.

    Eddie
    That does seem rather ouchy.
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    That is a huge outlay.

    If I’ve read another thread correctly, Eddie is putting these into production imminently…?


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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    But I have to pay up-front and such an order is likely to cost me around 200k.

    Eddie
    Guess that’s a no then.

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    Is there a ball park or actual price confirmed on these bad boys yet, anyone, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templogin View Post
    I really like this one and I think that it will be a huge success in the resale market. It would certainly be worth adding £100 to the sale price here.
    This sort of price increase would discourage enthusiasts more than profiteers, and it would not make it any easier to buy a watch when the shop is open.

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    Think of the profits though, and if only half of those profits went to the fundraiser……

    If it discourages buyers then it won’t be so difficult to buy a watch in the Sunday afternoon bun fight.

    The wrong people are profiting imho.

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    Look at what I've been playing with

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    There’s some healthy competition coming by the looks of it. What I find a bit puzzling is why not try and mimic a nice five digit case . More elegant.

    The trend on this proposed San Martin case and the case on their current existing vintage diver (with the regular 6538 dial )is sort of a mini bb58 style case .

    Eddie’s rendition seems to have a nicer case and a glossy dial contrary to san martins tropical dial


    Also as an observation in the interest of historical accuracy and emulation is the big ball lollipop hand and ball on the counter poise more accurate on the San Martin ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bond View Post
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    There’s some healthy competition coming by the looks of it. What I find a bit puzzling is why not try and mimic a nice five digit case . More elegant.

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    I just had a quick look. As you say, the San Martin is the chunky Black Bay look (that everybody hates, by the way). A five-digit case will make it look like every other diver on the market. The "Commander" is based on the 6202 turn-o-graph and that makes it far more elegant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    I just had a quick look. As you say, the San Martin is the chunky Black Bay look (that everybody hates, by the way). A five-digit case will make it look like every other diver on the market. The "Commander" is based on the 6202 turn-o-graph and that makes it far more elegant.
    Yes I forgot or misunderstood it was emulating the turn -o-graph hence the differences - Thanks for pointing that out


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    Any estimate on when these luscious things might make it onto the shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughtrimble View Post
    Any estimate on when these luscious things might make it onto the shop?
    I was thinking the same thing this evening - whether to try and get a Caribbean or hold out for these if they are coming soon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    I was thinking the same thing this evening - whether to try and get a Caribbean or hold out for these if they are coming soon.


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    And the shop is open this weekend...(far too hopeful thinking on my part, for both their arrival and managing to buy one in seconds!)

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    Lots to like with this one. I'm in the depth rating on the dial camp as far as the dial is concerned. Happy with either bracelet too. I wonder what the thickness is overall? I think I'd have liked a thinner bezel given the smaller overall diameter but this may look ok in the hand. The new models are just coming thick and fast which is great too.

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    Any new photos or news regarding this one Eddie?

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    Funnily enough I just spotted these on Instagram:




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    That's does look really nice. I can't wait for this to be available.

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    They should be available early in the New Year, there's too much else going on in the run-up to Christmas.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    They should be available early in the New Year, there's too much else going on in the run-up to Christmas.

    Eddie
    Looks the business Eddie


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    Proper tidy that

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    I love that dial. Gloss black and gilt. Wonderful.


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    I've only just noticed this watch, but Eddie: can you please create a version of this (future model) that has a 1-12 bezel? A watch like this with a 1-12 bezel allows it to be the most all round watch, because the 1-12 bezel allows it to be easily used as a timing bezel, but also a quick TimeZone bezel too - making it the perfect "the one" watch. Thanks.

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    I finally got around to reading this entire thread, and I'd like to provide feedback:

    I really like the latest version of this watch. I think it's near perfect. If I could ask for one change, and that is to include a folding divers extension (not one of those sliding ones). First, the folding divers extension is quite inexpensive to include, second: it legitimizes a watch as a divers watch, since you can easily deploy it and wear the watch over a wetsuit.

    There are many dive watches that include features that 99% of divers won't use, like the helium escape valve, but for sure the divers extension is the most useful diver-specific feature (other than the timing bezel). I think this watch is excellent, but for it to be 100% perfect, as opposed to 95% perfect, it needs the divers extension IMO.

    Out of all the diver watches out there less than $3k, I think this watch is the best, especially because it has the 20k A/m protection; that's why I think it should have the divers extension because it is such a good watch, and deserves it.

    For the bracelet, my vote is for the oyster style. The jubilee doesn't look right on a sports watch IMO.

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    I don’t know if others agree, but at some stage it would be nice (I think) to introduce plain end-links for the oyster bracelets. I don’t mind the faux plates and rivets on the bracelet links themselves, but it would look cleaner (and more correct imho) if the end-links were free from the faux plate detail.

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    I would agree with many of the earlier posts on this thread that the crown needs to be bigger. Not just bigger, but it should have the oversized knurls and curves of the original 6538, the current version seems just too flat and square.

    There are some practical reasons for a smaller crown in that it is unobtrusive but i think the main reason the original 6538s are so sought after is that the big crown is so idiosyncratic it gives them character that just can't be beaten. Changing the crown on this watch could really elevate it to another level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siggy View Post
    .....i think the main reason the original 6538s are so sought after is that the big crown is so idiosyncratic it gives them character that just can't be beaten. ....

    siggy
    This watch is based on the 6202. Check the crown on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    They should be available early in the New Year, there's too much else going on in the run-up to Christmas.

    Eddie
    This one is looking really good Eddie. I'm pleased to see the dial numbers typeface was updated (I'd like to see those used on the next gen Everests too), it's going to be a very popular model and will certainly give watches like the Seiko SPB143 a run for its money.

    Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    ....and will certainly give watches like the Seiko SPB143 a run for its money.

    Well done.
    You do mean SPB147. As for the rest I fully agree. This watch is going to be extra popular. We will soon see a fume tropical dial version. I am waiting for that one.
    Last edited by abraxas; 13th October 2021 at 12:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    You do mean SPB147. As for the rest I fully agree. This watch is going to be extra popular. We will soon see a fume tropical dial version. I am waiting for that one.


    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    This watch is based on the 6202. Check the crown on that.
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    ah, ok, thanks. Hope it goes well.

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  46. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    Behave now Eddie, come on mate, just release the commander asap please....

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    I love the big crown idea too :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxsash View Post
    I love the big crown idea too :)
    Don't you think the crown on the Commander is big enough?

    By the way, going by the pics I've seen, I think it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    I think the fume on the tropical commando looks better than that.

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    Look at what I've been playing with

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