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    CWC 1980 Reissue - s/h value?

    Idle musing early on a Saturday:

    Anyone had sight of how well the CWC 1980 reissues hold their value?

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    They don't. I bought mine for £2k from Silvermans a few years back and think it sold for around £1,300.

    They are heavily over priced to start with, easily available and you will take a bath if you sell. Same with the 1983 Quartz diver, £900 new and I have bought a couple around the £600 mark.

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    But once discounted, they seem to hold that value?

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    Buying My 1980 dark lume reissue new is definitely not my best financial decision, however until I can track down an issued watch from 1980 (at a price I am happy with) its the next best thing.
    They are better quality with improved fit and finish over the standard watches.

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    I recently splashed out £900 on a new 1987 SBS reissue and wouldn't expect to get anything like that on resale.

    I sort of knew that anyway so bought it with the intention of keeping and beating it up for a few years

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    Not mine but just listed on eBay today

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CWC-1983-...gAAOSwByxgaERm

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilF183 View Post
    Not mine but just listed on eBay today

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CWC-1983-...gAAOSwByxgaERm

    077/19 on the caseback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MADDOG View Post
    077/19 on the caseback.
    Meaning what? That you can read?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    They don't. I bought mine for £2k from Silvermans a few years back and think it sold for around £1,300.

    They are heavily over priced to start with, easily available and you will take a bath if you sell. Same with the 1983 Quartz diver, £900 new and I have bought a couple around the £600 mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Meaning what? That you can read?
    The issued numbers on the back stated 077 / 19 and not an 83. The sale has now ended .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MADDOG View Post
    The issued numbers on the back stated 077 / 19 and not an 83. The sale has now ended .
    The 83 re issues were released in 2019


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    Quote Originally Posted by enndriz View Post
    The 83 re issues were released in 2019


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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    But once discounted, they seem to hold that value?
    I would agree with this.

    Buy one second hand that has already taken the hit and it is a risk free purchase from the financial point of view.

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    Surprised to see the 83 mentioned above go for that price - can only assume itís a bit of desperation cos they are still sold out and the new batch not available yet. Iíve always thought somewhere around 650-700 to be the bench mark for them, not that Iím considering selling mine


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    One of the 1980 Auto reissues has gone on eBay this afternoon:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254927479820


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    One of the 1980 Auto reissues has gone on eBay this afternoon:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254927479820


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    That is a good buy for someone, the hit has already been taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    That is a good buy for someone, the hit has already been taken.
    Agreed, I think these are worth £1300 they are a good watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    Agreed, I think these are worth £1300 they are a good watch.
    Just checked the listing, this is a brand new watch only bought a few days ago. The seller also has an automatic which again is just a few days old.

    Odd or just a few grand of buyers remorse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    Just checked the listing, this is a brand new watch only bought a few days ago. The seller also has an automatic which again is just a few days old.

    Odd or just a few grand of buyers remorse?
    I think you are right.
    I was tempted by the T dialled autos when that were ‘found’ but I don’t need another CWC diver.
    If they were a non date I would have bought one and sold my L dialled auto. That said I put a scratch on it this week by dropping a Land Rover on it!

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    CWC 1980 Reissue - s/h value?

    Listening has ended now, feel like Iíve missed out there, but knew Iíd have to be quick if I wanted it and I wasnít 100% sure....


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    I'm glad it's gone! I'm waiting for one of Eddie's PRS-29s

    I don't get the pricing of these two though more than they cost new

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CWC-ROYAL...AAAOSwszdgWIoo

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CWC-G10-M...8AAOSwThVgWJQL

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    Listening has ended now, feel like Iíve missed out there, but knew Iíd have to be quick if I wanted it and I wasnít 100% sure....


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    😂 I was 50:50 and letting fate decide.. if it'd still been there tomorrow..

    Useful data point though, and the thoughts on 1983 pricing, looks as though CWC divers of all types drop around 30% from new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilF183 View Post
    Yup, spotted those. Quite bizarre. I'm guessing it's opportunism hoping to catch people thinking they're buying an ex-MOD watch and willing to pay the premium that they seem to attract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brauner Hund View Post
    Yup, spotted those. Quite bizarre. I'm guessing it's opportunism hoping to catch people thinking they're buying an ex-MOD watch and willing to pay the premium that they seem to attract.
    What's even worse is he bought them the week off eBay for a lot less 🤦🏻*♂️

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    I think that once the initial depreciation has occurred they seem to retain their value, and then desirability. They were neither at the 2k RRP.

    Iíve worn mine today, and think that it is a step up from the others in the range, has a greater visual attraction, does patina in very acceptable way, and could easily be a go-to watch.

    Mine will go soon to fund other projects, but I like it enough to know that Iíll buy another when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    One of the 1980 Auto reissues has gone on eBay this afternoon:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254927479820


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    Just took a punt on an 87 reissue from the same chap.
    Never even put one on my wrist before, but thought it'd be a neat way of trying one ...knowing it'll hold it's post-initial-depreciation value👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brauner Hund View Post
    Just took a punt on an 87 reissue from the same chap.
    Never even put one on my wrist before, but thought it'd be a neat way of trying one ...knowing it'll hold it's post-initial-depreciation valueūüĎć
    Good move - you wonít lose much if anything on that if it doesnít work for you. I reckon you will like it tho


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    Quote Originally Posted by enndriz View Post
    Good move - you wonít lose much if anything on that if it doesnít work for you. I reckon you will like it tho


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    Anticipation


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    One of the 1980 Auto reissues has gone on eBay this afternoon:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254927479820


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    How could I miss that one ?!? :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by COMEX View Post
    How could I miss that one ?!? :(
    When I saw it I wasnít sure if it was too good to be true, kicked myself afterwards for not hitting the buy it now button....


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    I sent the seller a cheeky message re if it still was available, however he stated that it is sold ...

    Bummer, somebody got a really good deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by COMEX View Post
    I sent the seller a cheeky message re if it still was available, however he stated that it is sold ...

    Bummer, somebody got a really good deal
    Squad average in this thread indicated that it went for about the going rate - more will come along at the same sort of price, I'm sure 😊

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brauner Hund View Post
    Squad average in this thread indicated that it went for about the going rate - more will come along at the same sort of price, I'm sure 
    than I'm better fast enough next time around

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    Just watched this..

    a bit of pricing reality check!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brauner Hund View Post
    Just watched this..

    a bit of pricing reality check!

    After ebay charges, the seller took around £500 for it 😳

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brauner Hund View Post
    After ebay charges, the seller took around £500 for it 
    The thing is...
    These non date black cased divers are not what anally retentive saddos like me want. They are not a reissue ĎSBSí nor are they an issued watch. They are a nice looking diver but not much more.
    As such I think the non date black case will always be a little cheaper, same for the mixed match cases and bezels etc.

    The reissues of the actual issued watches will always have a bit of an extra pull but those like me that bought new will take a bath if we resell. If you bought a Ďstylised afterí version god help you.

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    Couldnít agree more ... Weíre not comparing like for like here. the reissue models - in particular those with automatic movements - whilst appealing to a smaller crowd, will always bring in more $$$s than the standard models.

    For example, I bought my SBS day date from this parish in 2010/11 for - if memory serves right - less than 400 quid. List price at Silvermans was around 700£ I believe back then... Ten years later I might get a bit more as itís a 2008 model with tritium dial, but thatís about it.

    I find the old logo, the thicker minute hand and an automatic movement in general more appealing and would be willing to pay more. But not 2K£ but if 1.3-1.4K£ is the going rate, this little fan boy might add one to the collection sooner or later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    The thing is...
    These non date black cased divers are not what anally retentive saddos like me want. They are not a reissue ĎSBSí nor are they an issued watch. They are a nice looking diver but not much more.
    As such I think the non date black case will always be a little cheaper, same for the mixed match cases and bezels etc.

    The reissues of the actual issued watches will always have a bit of an extra pull but those like me that bought new will take a bath if we resell. If you bought a Ďstylised afterí version god help you.
    Ah, OK, that's taught me something I was completely unaware of! (Not being sarcastic! I mean it, I was not aware of that perspective)

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    I cant remember what I paid for my CWC its of no importance as I dont buy watches or anything for that matter with regard to the resale value.

    Just buy it if you like it whatever it is and be done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brauner Hund View Post
    Ah, OK, that's taught me something I was completely unaware of! (Not being sarcastic! I mean it, I was not aware of that perspective)
    They are a strange market
    The reissues of the actual issued watches are vastly over priced new but once you take the hit they hold their price.
    The watches CWC have produced that are Ďinspired byí take an even bigger hit as far as I have seen.
    They are all excellent watches but saddos like me want either the issued watches with the premium they bring or the reissues as a gap filler / less expensive alternative.
    I say this as a CWC groupie...

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    kinda hi-jacking the thread here, but did CWC ever release a non-issued No-date Automatic Diver with Tritium dial as per of their general offering?

    They're selling one to this day (https://www.cwcwatch.com/collections...39278691352662) but with Luminova dial...

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    Quote Originally Posted by COMEX View Post
    kinda hi-jacking the thread here, but did CWC ever release a non-issued No-date Automatic Diver with Tritium dial as per of their general offering?

    They're selling one to this day (https://www.cwcwatch.com/collections...39278691352662) but with Luminova dial...
    Isn't what you describe, this one ? (No date was a drop down option)
    https://www.cwcwatch.com/collections...-rn300-mt-am60

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    That answers my question...ta!

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    For clarity
    The only issued CWC divers with an Auto movement were the ones issued in 1980 and 1981. Neither had a date. There were slight variations in dial and hand set use between the 2 years
    The only CWC diver watch with a date to be issue is the SBS with Day Date.

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    Have you noticed the prices on these going up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukeskd View Post
    Have you noticed the prices on these going up?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brauner Hund View Post
    Slightly different though... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    Slightly different though... :-)
    That has been on eBay for a very long time and I wonít expect it to sell any time soon at that price

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance wheel View Post
    That has been on eBay for a very long time and I wonít expect it to sell any time soon at that price
    Aye the price on that is only gonna go one way - and Iím willing to bet heavily on DOWN


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