closing tag is in template navbar
Time Factors Watches



TZ-UK Fundraiser
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 101

Thread: Bremont £100,000

  1. #1
    Master Yorkshiremadmick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Yorkshire man in Northumberland
    Posts
    2,485

    Bremont £100,000

    Just seen this as it was a link in an email to me.
    4 left. So presumably 496 have sold?

    https://www.bremont.com/products/bremont-kingsman-dlc


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  2. #2
    Grand Master Chris_in_the_UK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Norf Yorks
    Posts
    38,927
    They are £4500.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

  3. #3

  4. #4
    Master jukeboxs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    3,482
    Surely worth the £4.6k to join Nick and the KM inner circle.

    This Bremont Kingsman Steel watch is one of the three and is seen on the wrists of the stars in the movie, including Bremont co-founder Nick English who makes a cameo appearance in the film as one of the Kingman.

  5. #5
    Master Lammylee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    2,501
    Does it have artistic splatters of paint on the dial!

  6. #6
    Master Yorkshiremadmick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Yorkshire man in Northumberland
    Posts
    2,485
    Bizarre it showed me £100,000 on their website?


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  7. #7
    Master Christian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,424
    I don't get it...your link is to the Kingsmen special edition and others are posting the standard Alt 1-B chrono? The Kingsmen edition doesn't give a price, it says you have to contact the Bremont "concierge"...a phrase that always tells me you are about to pay double the actual price of what it's worth!

  8. #8
    Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Wokingham
    Posts
    1,793
    No one is paying £100k for that watch.

  9. #9
    Grand Master Chris_in_the_UK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Norf Yorks
    Posts
    38,927
    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    I don't get it...your link is to the Kingsmen special edition and others are posting the standard Alt 1-B chrono? The Kingsmen edition doesn't give a price, it says you have to contact the Bremont "concierge"...a phrase that always tells me you are about to pay double the actual price of what it's worth!
    https://www.jurawatches.co.uk/produc...ion-dlc-bm-324
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

  10. #10
    Master Christian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,424
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Ah, thanks!

  11. #11
    Master Yorkshiremadmick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Yorkshire man in Northumberland
    Posts
    2,485
    Found these IMG_3016.JPG
    IMG_3017.JPG


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  12. #12
    Grand Master Chris_in_the_UK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Norf Yorks
    Posts
    38,927
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    You on drugs Mick?
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

  13. #13
    Master Yorkshiremadmick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Yorkshire man in Northumberland
    Posts
    2,485
    Never done drugs ever.
    Well alcohol but not drugs.
    Nick & Giles sent me the email. Which sadly I deleted. But inviting me to look at an investment piece. Not sure if theyíd done drugs as I could never justify that much on a watch.


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  14. #14
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    The Kingsmen edition doesn't give a price, it says you have to contact the Bremont "concierge"...a phrase that always tells me you are about to pay double the actual price of what it's worth!
    That will be because it's no longer available. Bremont were involved with the first Kingsman film but not the second so that limited edition has run its course. There may be the odd watch in a dealer somewhere, possibly preowned.

    There's very little difference between the Kingsman and the standard Alt1-B so if you like the former but you can't get hold of one, why not consider the latter?

  15. #15
    Master Chewitt13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Aberdeen
    Posts
    1,002
    Wtf

    Terra Nova £100k?

    One sold last week on eBay for £3k

    Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

  16. #16
    Master W124's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Standish, M6 Jn 27.
    Posts
    1,636
    They are a competent watch assembly company who box well above their weight through astute marketing.

    Including scraps of cloth, timber and metal does not improve the horological worth of their 'limited editions'

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    Bizarre it showed me £100,000 on their website?


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app
    Sure it did 🤣

  18. #18
    Grand Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Cartagena, Spain
    Posts
    15,303
    Swedish Princess edition?

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    Never done drugs ever.
    Well alcohol but not drugs.
    Nick & Giles sent me the email. Which sadly I deleted.

    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app
    Surprising. I am on their mailing list as I suspect are several others. I didnít get any email.
    May be it was a personal email given you are such a big fan.

  20. #20
    Grand Master wileeeeeey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    11,122
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    Never done drugs ever.
    Well alcohol but not drugs.
    Nick & Giles sent me the email. Which sadly I deleted. But inviting me to look at an investment piece. Not sure if theyíd done drugs as I could never justify that much on a watch.


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app
    Surely it's in your deleted items for 30 days?

  21. #21
    Master Yorkshiremadmick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Yorkshire man in Northumberland
    Posts
    2,485
    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Surely it's in your deleted items for 30 days?
    No my bin has auto empty.
    But hey people will believe what they want to believe.
    Doubters doubt what they want to doubt.

    Iím not a fan of Bremont, I donít own one, not sure I would. But I donít really slag them off either. I get emails from various watch manufacturers.
    This one just surprised me.



    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  22. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    No my bin has auto empty.
    But hey people will believe what they want to believe.
    Doubters doubt what they want to doubt.

    Iím not a fan of Bremont, I donít own one, not sure I would. But I donít really slag them off either. I get emails from various watch manufacturers.
    This one just surprised me.



    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app
    I am sure you received something but probably not from Bremont and misunderstood what was in the message.
    I donít think you are making it up but am equally sure you are mistaken.

  23. #23
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    But hey people will believe what they want to believe. Doubters doubt what they want to doubt.
    I believe you. I have seen errors on Bremonts website before. I don't believe for a second it was a legitimate price, simply an error that would have been corrected if you'd sent an email to Bremont

  24. #24
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by W124 View Post
    They are a competent watch assembly company who box well above their weight through astute marketing.

    Including scraps of cloth, timber and metal does not improve the horological worth of their 'limited editions'
    They are an excellent manufacturer and assembly company who employ an awful lot people in the UK, make high quality timepieces, some of which are like nothing available from other manufacturers. The 'scraps' of material as you call them have worth to the people buying the watches and that's all that matters. They are a company where you can go to a launch and the founders will quite happily have a chat with you, whoever you are and their staff (or at least the ones I've met) are as committed to the brand as the founders.

    They may box above their weight, they're certainly doing a good job of it. Any other watch manufacturers currently building multi million pound headquarters in the UK?

  25. #25
    Master Yorkshiremadmick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Yorkshire man in Northumberland
    Posts
    2,485

    Bremont £100,000

    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    I believe you. I have seen errors on Bremonts website before. I don't believe for a second it was a legitimate price, simply an error that would have been corrected if you'd sent an email to Bremont
    Yeah, I should have returned the email for clarification. I had the sponsorship email at the same time.
    One of my mates has been and met with One of em,
    He had bought a Bremont, but fancied another. They gave him his money back on the one he bought and he then got a new edition.
    Not aware of many that would do that.


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  26. #26
    Grand Master Saint-Just's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Ashford, Kent
    Posts
    23,982
    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    Any other watch manufacturers currently building multi million pound headquarters in the UK?
    Not that I can think of. What that says, however, is very little, if anything.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

  27. #27
    Master
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Wokingham
    Posts
    1,793
    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    They are an excellent manufacturer and assembly company who employ an awful lot people in the UK, make high quality timepieces, some of which are like nothing available from other manufacturers. The 'scraps' of material as you call them have worth to the people buying the watches and that's all that matters. They are a company where you can go to a launch and the founders will quite happily have a chat with you, whoever you are and their staff (or at least the ones I've met) are as committed to the brand as the founders.

    They may box above their weight, they're certainly doing a good job of it. Any other watch manufacturers currently building multi million pound headquarters in the UK?
    Do you work for Bremont?

  28. #28
    Master
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Suffolk
    Posts
    3,284
    Do the many Rolex fans here work for the charity foundation that is Rolex?

    Sent from my Nokia 3.1 using TZ-UK mobile app

  29. #29
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by MrBanks View Post
    Do you work for Bremont?
    No.

  30. #30
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Not that I can think of. What that says, however, is very little, if anything.
    I doubt that the many people employed by the company would agree.

  31. #31
    Grand Master Saint-Just's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Ashford, Kent
    Posts
    23,982

    Bremont £100,000

    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    I doubt that the many people employed by the company would agree.
    I fail to understand your point. Or should I counter it by saying that the far more important number of people NOT employed by the brothers, in their vast majority, couldnít care less about what they do or donít do?

    At the end of the day, they build the factory they think they need where they want, employ who they want, design the watch they like and sell at the price they choose.

    The public will then take those 4 criteria (or just the last 2) and decide to buy, or not.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

  32. #32
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    I fail to understand your point.
    I think you've just made my point.

    Bremont is appealing to those who want a good quality watch that is at least in part, manufactured in Great Britain. So they've built a state of the art facility, in Great Britain, are employing people from Great Britain with an overall aim of bringing watch manufacturing on a large scale back to Great Britain. Like any challenge it will take time but they seem be doing a good job so far.

  33. #33
    Grand Master oldoakknives's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    18,186
    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    They are an excellent manufacturer and assembly company who employ an awful lot people in the UK, make high quality timepieces, some of which are like nothing available from other manufacturers. The 'scraps' of material as you call them have worth to the people buying the watches and that's all that matters. They are a company where you can go to a launch and the founders will quite happily have a chat with you, whoever you are and their staff (or at least the ones I've met) are as committed to the brand as the founders.

    They may box above their weight, they're certainly doing a good job of it. Any other watch manufacturers currently building multi million pound headquarters in the UK?
    Still overpriced for what they are.
    Last edited by oldoakknives; 30th March 2021 at 00:50.
    ďThe more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.Ē

  34. #34
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    In your opinion which you're entitled to although you have no factual basis to make that statement.

  35. #35
    Grand Master oldoakknives's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    18,186
    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    In your opinion which you're entitled to although you have no factual basis to make that statement.
    How to lose £1196 or just over 30% in 2 months.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bremont-S...Condition=3000
    Last edited by oldoakknives; 30th March 2021 at 00:57.
    ďThe more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.Ē

  36. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    How to lose £1196 or just over 30% in 2 months.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bremont-S...Condition=3000
    The same return as just about every other watch out there now apart from Rolex. And a couple of years ago it would have been the same return for just about every Rolex apart from a few select sports models. It says nothing.

  37. #37
    Master bedlam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Fremantle, Western Australia (GMT +8)
    Posts
    1,176
    Quote Originally Posted by W124 View Post
    They are a competent watch assembly company who box well above their weight through astute marketing.
    That's how Rolex got their start, so the brothers might be on to something

  38. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    How to lose £1196 or just over 30% in 2 months.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bremont-S...Condition=3000
    What would the loss be buying a Tag, Breitling, Omega or IWC at retail and then selling it 2 months later?

    What makes you think the seller paid retail by the way? Most dealers have sales especially in January.

  39. #39
    Grand Master oldoakknives's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    18,186
    Quote Originally Posted by Danstone View Post
    The same return as just about every other watch out there now apart from Rolex. And a couple of years ago it would have been the same return for just about every Rolex apart from a few select sports models. It says nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    What would the loss be buying a Tag, Breitling, Omega or IWC at retail and then selling it 2 months later?

    What makes you think the seller paid retail by the way? Most dealers have sales especially in January.
    Yes some of those brands do lose value as rapidly but not all of them from what Iíve seen.

    But it still doesnít mean Bremont arenít overpriced in my opinion. Itís just that, an opinion. Some may agree, some disagree.
    ďThe more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.Ē

  40. #40
    Grand Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Cartagena, Spain
    Posts
    15,303
    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    They are an excellent manufacturer and assembly company who employ an awful lot people in the UK, make high quality timepieces, some of which are like nothing available from other manufacturers. The 'scraps' of material as you call them have worth to the people buying the watches and that's all that matters. They are a company where you can go to a launch and the founders will quite happily have a chat with you, whoever you are and their staff (or at least the ones I've met) are as committed to the brand as the founders.

    They may box above their weight, they're certainly doing a good job of it. Any other watch manufacturers currently building multi million pound headquarters in the UK?
    No dog in this fight but this line kinda jumped out at me,

    'The 'scraps' of material as you call them have worth to the people buying the watches and that's all that matters.'

    I humbly suggest that it's the inclusion of the various bits and bobs which put many people off their products, sullies the company a wee bit, it's all just rather naff, too gimmicky.

    Just my opinion.

  41. #41
    Master Yorkshiremadmick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Yorkshire man in Northumberland
    Posts
    2,485
    I commented on Bremontís Facebook page. See attached. IMG_3053.JPG


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  42. #42
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    How to lose £1196 or just over 30% in 2 months.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bremont-S...Condition=3000
    Why you think that has any bearing on your opinion I have no idea? You could pick a watch at random from almost any major brand and it would have close to the same deprecation from new and whether it is 2 months or 2 years old is irrelevant, it's still pre-owned at that point. I did the same with a recent release Tag Monza and found one on eBay at around 40% off.

    Also, reverting back to your enthusiasm about cars, you'll no doubt be aware that the deprecation on most of those isn't great either. \

    You do seem to have a bias against Bremont for some reason?

  43. #43
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    I commented on Bremontís Facebook page
    about an in-house movement? Have you attached the wrong image?

  44. #44
    Journeyman theancientmariner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Newcastle, U.K.
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    I humbly suggest that it's the inclusion of the various bits and bobs which put many people off their products, sullies the company a wee bit, it's all just rather naff, too gimmicky
    I can see that but at the same time I'm in two minds about it. I think the way in which those 'bits and bobs' are used in the design of the watches is exceptional, the rotor in the Bremont Hercules is a work of art in my opinion and the back of the Bremont Hawking is also rather nice. However, when they market the idea of using slivers of wood from a desk drawer I do squirm a little bit. Never the less, there are a few of the Bremont watches that include those bits and bobs that are commanding higher pre-owned prices than their rrp so it can't all be bad news.

  45. #45
    Master
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Suffolk
    Posts
    3,284
    A bit gimmicky, well yes, maybe, but then there have always been watches in history that have used gimmicks. Bremont sometimes choose 'gimmick' to market & sell a watch; a sliver of canvas from the Wright Flyer, a piece of dust from Turings desk, a chunk of timber from the Spruce Goose. So what, if people like to have that, then why not. I personally can't get on with the grinding churn of Omega Limited editions, Speedy Tuesday, Snoopy this, DSOM that, Olympic games, Seamaster, etc., etc. But, I do like diversity, so although not my cup of tea, I quite enjoy the idea that companies do this in whatever field.

  46. #46
    Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North Wales
    Posts
    2,696
    The boss has posted a video on the Timefactors FB site for Bremont unveiling their new facility and ability to book factory tours. Apologies if already posted.

  47. #47
    Grand Master oldoakknives's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    18,186
    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    Why you think that has any bearing on your opinion I have no idea? You could pick a watch at random from almost any major brand and it would have close to the same deprecation from new and whether it is 2 months or 2 years old is irrelevant, it's still pre-owned at that point. I did the same with a recent release Tag Monza and found one on eBay at around 40% off.

    Also, reverting back to your enthusiasm about cars, you'll no doubt be aware that the deprecation on most of those isn't great either. \

    You do seem to have a bias against Bremont for some reason?
    You asked if I had any evidence they were overvalued. I never said others weren't overvalued as well, although probably not to the extent of £12k for the watch in the OP. Still available by the way so the 120 haven't exactly flown out the door.

    I realise that cars depreciate having bought 3 in the last 5 years. I wouldn't disagree about that at all.

    I'm not a fan of Bremont, I already admitted that. But some of their models seem better value than the watch/carhire/clock combo. You do seem to be a fan of theirs, perhaps you are a little bit biased as well?
    ďThe more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.Ē

  48. #48
    Master Yorkshiremadmick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Yorkshire man in Northumberland
    Posts
    2,485
    Quote Originally Posted by theancientmariner View Post
    about an in-house movement? Have you attached the wrong image?
    No I donít think so, they say they are not making their own movements at the moment. So theyíve admitted they buy in movements to modify.


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  49. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    No I donít think so, they say they are not making their own movements at the moment. So theyíve admitted they buy in movements to modify.


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app
    I donít think that is a secret.

  50. #50
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    South Wales
    Posts
    422
    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    No dog in this fight but this line kinda jumped out at me,

    'The 'scraps' of material as you call them have worth to the people buying the watches and that's all that matters.'

    I humbly suggest that it's the inclusion of the various bits and bobs which put many people off their products, sullies the company a wee bit, it's all just rather naff, too gimmicky.

    Just my opinion.
    I like Bremont but I agree this stuff adds no value to a watch in my eyes. That said, I love the Hercules design so look past the gimmicky aspect.

    I feel exactly the same way about the Explorer and the gimmicky marketing around most 'famous' watches. I don't care one jot which driver or actor or astronaut wore a version of the watch I'm buying. If the design & build are good then I'll like the watch. Thankfully, most of the sought after watches don't tick that first box for me, or have other models I prefer so it saves some money.
    It's probably only the Explorer & 60s Autavia that I like the most sought after models the best.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Do Not Sell My Personal Information