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    Yet another Bremont Ltd Edition

    Just been e-mailed about this....
    https://www.jurawatches.co.uk/produc...eid=c15dd4c77c

    My first thoughts were, finally, a good looking Bremont! Then I noticed that huge black blob in the centre of the dial that's supposed to look like a steering wheel boss - yuk! And then I noticed that it has a black Jaguar logo on a black dial that you can't see.....and then the stupid price. So you think, just a normal Bremont that I won't be buying!

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    Really nice colours on there, but seems such a ridiculous price.
    Shame.

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    Watch is ugly. Price is insane. I'm not a fan boy or a hater, I think they've made some lovely watches and some not so. But seriously, who buys something like this?

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    13.000,- GBP????????? (is 15.175,- Euro's)

    And still only a Valjoux 7750 based 42 hour PR movement?
    I guess there must be a massive profit in it for them.

    World's gone mad, or rather Bremont is.
    Last edited by Daddelvirks; 12th March 2021 at 10:33.
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    I had the same email and was just looking at, well out of my price range but if I had the cash I couldn’t justify the price for it

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    Ridiculous price! But then you could say that about pretty much all supposed 'top end' watches.
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    Not even with the 1 off the front of the price.

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    More gimmicky, obvious design cues borrowed from their co-brand partners - this is classic Bremont.

    Having said that, I think the rotor looks rather well done.

    Good luck to them, I say.

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    I have a Jaaag. I’m used to paying stupid parts prices. I like watches. I quite like the non-LE version of this watch. I should be the ideal target market but it’s just silly money.

    This is even more laughable.


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    Crazy price. Comes with the Rally Timer set too I suppose - or at least the badly worded copy suggests so

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    There are better alternatives at this price range. Lovely watch but insanely overpriced - just my opinion.

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    I have to agree with kostal if it was a 1/3 I would be tempted when it appears on the used market but I would rather put a few £££ and get a used Daytona

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    At 10% of the price (that's not a typo, I mean 10% of, not 10% off), it would be a more tempting proposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    At 10% of the price (that's not a typo, I mean 10% of, not 10% off), it would be a more tempting proposition.
    Lets be frank - for 1% of the price you could find something better!

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    I can’t see many of these being sold if I’m honest

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    Assuming £10k for the add-ons (rally timer and driving experience) then pricing makes more sense. At least this is LE - I reckon they'll easily sell all 60, I'm sure they've done their research. Naff name though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scootnfast View Post
    I can’t see many of these being sold if I’m honest
    I bet they don't need to sell many to turn a worthwhile profit.

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    Let's be frank, the new über rich are often blessed with more money than sense and do not care about the technical details.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    No Christian you’re probably right, guessing it will hold it’s value though as there won’t be many on the used market

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    I'm very grateful for the E Type pictures. I had no idea what an E Type looked like.

    Does this piece include an original bit of E Type in it somewhere or have Bremont broken with their own tradition?
    Last edited by Tony-GB; 12th March 2021 at 14:48.

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    You didn’t know what an E type looked like 😲

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    Quote Originally Posted by scootnfast View Post
    You didn’t know what an E type looked like 
    Nope, not a clue. Had no idea.

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    It’s like car porn, one of my dream motors if I win the lottery haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Case View Post
    Not even with the 1 12 off the front of the price.

    There, fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scootnfast View Post
    It’s like car porn, one of my dream motors if I win the lottery haha
    Back in the mid 1970's, when petrol prices were rocketing daily, I had the choice of two cars, a petrol guzzling V12 E Type or an economical Ford 1300 GT Capri.

    Looking back, I made the wrong choice!
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    The price is nuts. I don’t buy watches as investments but knowing what is going to happen to the value of that immediately after buying it would put most potential purchasers off. There are far better looking and iconic watches at that price point!

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    It's a handsome watch, and there's a lot in the package (rally timer, driving experience, &c) but so far as I can see they have got the design cues wrong - wrong font, wrong central boss, wrong hand shape, wrong proportions... How difficult is it to emulate these design cues in a reasonably authentic manner?!

    I'm far from a Bremont "hater", but their abject lack of attention to detail has destroyed the interest I used to have in the brand. It does not inspire confidence.

    How typically British in 2021: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory wherever opportunity presents itself...



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    It's the rotor that mimics the steering wheel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AP1 View Post
    The price is nuts. I don’t buy watches as investments but knowing what is going to happen to the value of that immediately after buying it would put most potential purchasers off. There are far better looking and iconic watches at that price point!
    Doesn’t stop people buying brand new cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nealywheelie View Post
    It's the rotor that mimics the steering wheel.
    Clearly. The face and hands are supposed to emulate the speedometer and tachometer - and that was the best pic of a '61 E-type dashboard I could find that showed them and which was hotlinkable.

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    Greedy pricing indeed.

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    More over priced crap from Bremont. For that sort of money, one could easily buy an imaginary French farmhouse from an imaginary French farmer - with free parking for ones imaginary slightly faulty biplane.
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    I would love the rally clocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Clearly. The face and hands are supposed to emulate the speedometer and tachometer - and that was the best pic of a '61 E-type dashboard I could find that showed them and which was hotlinkable.
    If they were being accurate surely the sub-dials ought to have Smiths on them?

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    An award for what is surely the longest name given to a watch though ?

    "BREMONT WATCH JAGUAR E-TYPE 60TH ANNIVERSARY DROP EVERYTHING GREEN LIMITED EDITION"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    More over priced crap from Bremont. For that sort of money, one could easily buy an imaginary French farmhouse from an imaginary French farmer - with free parking for ones imaginary slightly faulty biplane.
    Oh you are naughty, but I like your style.

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    Britain’s major watch brand joins with an iconic British brand, burn them!
    They release a fine looking watch that we would join a waitlist for if it was from someone else. It isn’t, it’s from Bremont, so burn them, burn them till they die!
    The watch is a luxury watch released at a luxury price, probably a lower mark up than our Swiss favourites, which will sell out and probably hold value better than most Swiss watches due to limited production. Burn them, burn them till they die then cut them down and burn them again!
    They are getting a bit charred now but the fire is still burning, we just need an up to date check of the Free French military records before deciding what to do next, but I suspect it will involve some burning.

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    Looks fine?? Prestige? In the end, it comes down to the question - "Would you pay £13k for THAT"? Unless I was an oil sheik or hedge fund billionaire for whom money has ceased to have meaning, my answer is absolutely Not. Not even at 10% of the asking price!

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    The pricing is certainly ambitious, very ambitious.
    Not that they will have difficulty selling the 60 pieces.
    I do like the looks, more than 95% of chronographs out there.

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    As most will be aware, several LE Bremont watches have appreciated in price quite a lot, but RRP on this looks OTT.

    I like the looks though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danstone View Post
    Britain’s major watch brand joins with an iconic British brand, burn them!
    They release a fine looking watch that we would join a waitlist for if it was from someone else. It isn’t, it’s from Bremont, so burn them, burn them till they die!
    The watch is a luxury watch released at a luxury price, probably a lower mark up than our Swiss favourites, which will sell out and probably hold value better than most Swiss watches due to limited production. Burn them, burn them till they die then cut them down and burn them again!
    They are getting a bit charred now but the fire is still burning, we just need an up to date check of the Free French military records before deciding what to do next, but I suspect it will involve some burning.
    At least you get an in- house movement with most of the Swiss big names when you pay such a price. I’m not saying some of those are taking the mickey as well, but this really is in another legue and taking the piss, a 7750 with a fancy rotor just doesn’t cut it for 15.000,- Euro’s. Hold it’s value, Bremont?, think not. And I do like quite a few Bremont designs.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    At least you get an in- house movement with most of the Swiss big names when you pay such a price. I’m not saying some of those are taking the mickey as well, but this really is in another legue and taking the piss, a 7750 with a fancy rotor just doesn’t cut it for 15.000,- Euro’s. Hold it’s value, Bremont?, think not. And I do like quite a few Bremont designs.
    But most people don’t know the difference between in-house and 7750 and frankly probably don’t care. I had no idea before joining TZ. We have a tendency to believe every watch buyer thinks like we do...they don’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougair View Post
    But most people don’t know the difference between in-house and 7750 and frankly probably don’t care. I had no idea before joining TZ. We have a tendency to believe every watch buyer thinks like we do...they don’t.
    Does that make it alright then? Most Rolex buyers don’t know their stuff, but at least they get something exclusive, regarding the movement. Giving your not well informed customer base a generic movement makes it even worse.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    Does that make it alright then? Most Rolex buyers don’t know their stuff, but at least they get something exclusive, regarding the movement. Giving your not well informed customer base a generic movement makes it even worse.
    Exclusive in that only a million or so others receive the same movement each year. Even accounting for R&D and manufacturing costs I wouldn’t mind betting that it costs Bremont more to buy in and alter a movement than it does for Rolex to manufacture one.
    Rolex aside there are plenty of other makers that make claim to in house movements that, when you delve a little deeper, are anything but. Some simply label the movement as their own calibre, some go further and tell outright lies. I’ve had two chronographs with supposed in house movements go off for repair and been told parts will be easy because it’s a basic Frederic Piguet movement. There are also various tie ins between brands, Tudor and Breitling don’t go out of their way to promote their movement agreement and I believe that even Vacheron are using Cartier movements in some of their watches now.
    I can understand though that to some people in house is everything and this is priced a little high. What I can’t understand is the numbers of posts claiming that it’s not even worth 10% or 1% of the asking price or bring everything back to unsubstantiated stories about the origins of the brand. Pure ignorance that is a little embarrassing for a forum of this stature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    I’m not saying some of those are taking the mickey as well, but this really is in another legue and taking the piss, a 7750 with a fancy rotor just doesn’t cut it for 15.000,- Euro’s. Hold it’s value, Bremont?, think not. And I do like quite a few Bremont designs.
    It didn't stop JC Biver from selling his Big Bangs for that kind of money when he was heading Hublot...
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    It didn't stop JC Biver from selling his Big Bangs for that kind of money when he was heading Hublot...
    Just as bad, Hublot, and this being a WIS dominated area they deserve to be outed. Fun is gone, even the likes of IWC are advertising in the PL. People with more money than sense and all that. But I’m going back to where I belong, been here, seen it done it ;)
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    I agree but we need to keep in mind that we are not the target for that over priced novelty.
    Those who will buy that LE will probably don’t know what a 7750 is, or at least won’t care because it will go well with their bare metal restored E-type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    Does that make it alright then? Most Rolex buyers don’t know their stuff, but at least they get something exclusive, regarding the movement. Giving your not well informed customer base a generic movement makes it even worse.

    Rolex buyer getting something exclusive...that’s the funniest thing I heard today...and that includes the Bremont price 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougair View Post
    Rolex buyer getting something exclusive...that’s the funniest thing I heard today...and that includes the Bremont price 🤣
    The movement, that is, exclusive to Rolex.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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