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    Watches, High Quality to Price ratio

    Just thought I'd start a little conversation on watches that surprised you with the quality they offer for the price.

    So name a few watches that made you sit up and think 'how did they make this for that price?'

    Hopefully gives me abit of inspiration for my next piece to

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    Anything from Guinand. Eddie's Timefactors watches. Grand Seiko. Omega Sm300 (latest model). Tudor Pelagos. Oak & Oscar Jackson.



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    Nomos

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    Steeldive.

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    Tudor

    Considering the spiralling prices of other brands they continue to offer good quality at prices long since forgotten by other brands

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Anything from Guinand. Eddie's Timefactors watches. Grand Seiko. Omega Sm300 (latest model). Tudor Pelagos. Oak & Oscar Jackson.



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    Desperate to get my hands on the everest, seen them going well over £700 on ebay now. Tried to pick one up last opening but unfortunately had my order cancelled! Hoping this time round I will be successful!

    One that recently impressed me was maurice lacroix, the aikon range.

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    Certainly Nomos.

    Also impressed for the price with Muhle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonasy View Post
    Nomos
    +1 and Junghans,

    (seems like a few other German brands were mentioned too... a trend?)

    reminds me I also own a watch from Union Glashutte (another one) that's been sitting somewhere in my drawers for a long time now, also unbelievable quality.

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    OceanX

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    I thought the case finishing and the bracelet on Christopher Ward I had were exceptional for a sub £1k watch and sub £500 after discounts.


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    Entry level Grand Seiko 9F quartz and current Omega SMP300M.

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    Ocean X
    Amazed me how good it feels

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    Casio Oceanus S100.

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    Picked up a Union Glashutte Noramis recently and blown away with how nicely finished it is - quite a few of the Certina models are excellent too (PH500M etc) and at a reasonable price point.

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    Add Tissot and Longines to the list.

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    Certina worth a shout their crown action is particularly solid . The ph500 is on my list
    2nd hand the Ebel 1911 are top drawer but the ridiculously low prices they were going for are now a thing of the past.
    Received an Everest in a swap - really solid and worth every penny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marios View Post
    Certainly Nomos.

    Also impressed for the price with Muhle.
    I was also going to post Muhle. Superb value especially pre-owned.

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    Damasko. All that I have owned have been supper quality and built like tanks

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    I think Oris punch above their weight with some of their offerings


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    Seiko MM200 are very good for their RRP but extremely good for the price you end up paying with frequent discounts available.

    Steeldive and Ocean X are meant to be huge value for money with big praise from nearly all owners but I haven't seen them IRL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Seiko MM200 are very good for their RRP but extremely good for the price you end up paying with frequent discounts available.

    Steeldive and Ocean X are meant to be huge value for money with big praise from nearly all owners but I haven't seen them IRL.
    Have you tried the 62mas reissue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cart3rlfc View Post
    Have you tried the 62mas reissue?
    No, I think it would wear that well on my wrist. If anything I might try the Willard reissue or the new Shogun but both seem a bit expensive imo, particularly the black Willard which is £200 extra for the bracelet.

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    Another Nomos vote.

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    Yep OceanX for me, genuinely amazed at the quality

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    Make that a 4th Nomos vote. It's definitely the brand from my little selection that surprised me most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
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    Not quite sure it counts as value when you pay your money but don't get your watch!

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...hlight=mcmanus

    Nomos, lower-end Seiko (i.e. under £500). A basic 5600 G-Shock - surely there's no better value for money?
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    Dornbluth has been in my sights since that watch finder video. Granted, the most entry level are ETA but I don’t find that an issue at all unlike other watch snobs. Same with Minase. The quality both companies put out at their prices put other mainstream brands at that price level to shame.

    Tudor is also doing the right thing with their pricing. Omega is starting get worse with their price increase on the speedmaster. SMP is still ok for now.

    Rolex isn’t a good value proposition for what they make vs what you pay, but it’s a damn better price than what you would get on the used market. I hate that. Bought my dad a sub and it took months to convince them to sell me one. That’s not how it should be at all.

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    Another shout for the Casio Oceanus S100......also a big fan of the Citizen PMD56, superb build quality and materials for not a lot of cash (I have both).
    Although lately I have been wearing my lowly £50 Casio MTS sapphire on a Nato most day all day...its lost a second in 3 weeks....superb

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    Scurfa take some beating when it comes to value especially the D1 and of course timefactors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuS View Post
    Scurfa take some beating when it comes to value especially the D1 and of course timefactors.
    +1 on Scurfa. Excellent value for money and very difficult to beat.

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    Just taken delivery of two Steinharts - very impressed with them - ETA or Selita movements, solidly made, sub 400gbp

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawG View Post
    I thought the case finishing and the bracelet on Christopher Ward I had were exceptional for a sub £1k watch and sub £500 after discounts.


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    Which did you go for? I was quite impressed with my mates gmt trident


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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch_Collector View Post
    Which did you go for? I was quite impressed with my mates gmt trident


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    I had the C65 Trident Vintage MkII 38mm.


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    Newmark, the 6BB, 52 field watch and especially the 71 sport, which offered exceptional value for money.

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    and Seiko SKX's
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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    No, I think it would wear that well on my wrist. If anything I might try the Willard reissue or the new Shogun but both seem a bit expensive imo, particularly the black Willard which is £200 extra for the bracelet.
    Willards (except the blue LE) are currently 25% off at Hilliers. Makes it £750 for the green, £900 for the black. Plus quite a few other Prospex and Presage pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellietwed View Post
    Another shout for the Casio Oceanus S100....
    Yep - solar and radio controlled, tough enough to wear down the beach on holiday and dressy enough to wear in the evening for supper.. had mine for six years at this point and still bullet proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggertech View Post
    Willards (except the blue LE) are currently 25% off at Hilliers. Makes it £750 for the green, £900 for the black. Plus quite a few other Prospex and Presage pieces.
    Thank you, just had a look now and it's definitely interesting. I've just sold four watches to try and stop hoarding so will have to mull it over.

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    The ones that spring to mind that I own now or did recently are

    Cheaper and good value

    • Newmark (the 52 is very good value)
    • Armida (my A1 brass was super cheap, but they cost more now, so maybe less so these days)
    • I thought Eddie's Air Ministry was a lot of watch for the money
    • The Alkin Model 2 is very good looking
    • Scurfa is very good value in general


    Spending a little more, but still under £1k

    • Mido (the Ocean Star GMT is a very classy watch)
    • A-13A - the most functional chronograph for the money


    A little more again

    • The Siduna is a lovely remake chronograph



    There are loads more above that I would agree with, but lacking ownership experience, I won't comment
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    A couple I will add.

    - Citizen Excalibur. Amazing solidity and a peach of a strap. Eco-drive so no worries about battery changes or needing to open the back.
    - Wenger Avenue- solid with signed crown and sapphire coated crystal for peanuts
    - Muhle Glashutte- absolute bargain secondhand.
    - Glycine Combat Sub- great spec and a stylish, slim diver for small cash
    - Casio A158- steel case and steel bracelet for under a tenner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Tudor

    Considering the spiralling prices of other brands they continue to offer good quality at prices long since forgotten by other brands
    Agreed, engineering of Pelagos case and bracelet is superb, in house movement is one of the most accurate I've had in 12 years of watch obsession and the rubber strap utilising the end links is fantastically designed.

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    It’s a huge case of diminishing returns.

    I think Tudor offer a great value proposition at the minute. With Omega seemingly chasing a marketing strategy of price=quality and prestige (I appreciate they have added some useful technology in recent years especially in relation to anti-mag), when they once had similar pricing. Conversely Rolex has been trying to keep the distance between its two brands. You lose a little in quality and finishing, but not a huge amount, and supply, service, and specs are comparable or better than peers.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Otherwise, some brands that are still in regular sales can offer great value. I’ve had a few Certina watches and for the money I couldn’t complain. You can currently get an 80hr full steel model for around £300 in a sale; I paid around £400 odd for similar style in Ti a couple of years ago and it’s a great daily wear.

    I picked up. Longines Legend Diver in the recent 40% off sales, and I’m pleasantly surprised. To me Longines had been left in a kind of no mans land - a previously great brand that was seemingly left to fill Swatch groups price points rather than compete. I’m sure that’s still the same, as they don’t have access to all the group movements etc. but they do have access to some great group bits - an Annual Calendar for under £2k at RRP! 65hr reserves on lots of models, and much improved range, and finish on more recent models. It’s good to see, as the brand has been overlooked for years. I still don’t think it’s got that “I want to by a Longines, let’s see what models they have that I like” in the way that maybe a Rolex, Omega, Panerai or ALS and Patek might have, but maybe they’ll get back there one day...
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marios View Post
    Certainly Nomos.

    Also impressed for the price with Muhle.
    I love my Nomos Neomatik 41 date. Very slim, light, big dial, classic minimalist design, and I got it with £500 off RRP.

    I also have a Muhle Panova Blue. Cheaper than the Nomos, and that shows - a thicker, heavier case, and a fairly standard Sellita movement. Still a looker though.
    Last edited by Tatters; 11th January 2021 at 15:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Thank you, just had a look now and it's definitely interesting. I've just sold four watches to try and stop hoarding so will have to mull it over.
    A pleasure. Getting them below the 1k mark is a big psychological incentive. Don't think any of is will ever stop hoarding ;)

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