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    Just ordered the prototypes - prototypes received

    And hope they look as good in the flesh as I think they will. 38mm



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    Those look beautiful Eddie, especially Version A! Do they have a name/reference? How thick is the case?

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    Ahhh.... Smiths Polerouter - I get it.

    Gold hands - very posh

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    They are really rather lovely.

    Will I have to forge a relationship with the AD spending many thousands over a number of years just to get on the list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey99 View Post
    They are really rather lovely.

    Will I have to forge a relationship with the AD spending many thousands over a number of years just to get on the list?
    We don't operate that system here ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.Ldn View Post
    Ahhh.... Smiths Polerouter - I get it.

    Gold hands - very posh
    Exactly, great decision to leave out the date window, keeps excellent symmetry to the dial, version A is my fav I think.

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    Possible amendments for consideration -

    1) Cross Hairs on the dial look great and really help to improve any negative space.
    2) Definitely keep the hand-set shown on the render, adds elegance to the dial.
    3) Movement change to a bi-directional winding to eliminate any rotor whir - replace the Miyota 9039 with the Seiko NH38A (cheaper to purchase).
    4) Make the Trans-Global one word.
    5) Remove the movement name and replace with simply Automatic on the case back.

    All just my personal opinions of course....

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    The Miyota movements in the Everest and Dreadnought seem very good movements to me and not noticed any particular noise from either.

    Oh another name maybe for consideration having been involved in aviation in the past; Globemaster

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    The Globemaster name is currently used by Omega, so that would be rather problematic.

    The Miyota movements have the advantage of being slimmer than the Seiko calibers, which would allow the case to be slimmer as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dschaen81 View Post
    The Globemaster name is currently used by Omega, so that would be rather problematic.

    The Miyota movements have the advantage of being slimmer than the Seiko calibers, which would allow the case to be slimmer as well.
    Thanks forgotten about the Omega, oh well nice idea while it lasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dschaen81 View Post
    The Globemaster name is currently used by Omega, so that would be rather problematic.

    The Miyota movements have the advantage of being slimmer than the Seiko calibers, which would allow the case to be slimmer as well.
    Very true, and quite important with this new design, this should look sleek and have a slim profile on the wrist.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed875 View Post
    The Miyota movements in the Everest and Dreadnought seem very good movements to me and not noticed any particular noise from either.

    Oh another name maybe for consideration having been involved in aviation in the past; Globemaster
    I’ve regulated my Everest 2 weeks ago and it’s running absolutely bang on - I can position it at night to speed it up or slow it down, but it’s still only varying +/- 2 secs. Just incredible. And with the movement cover the rotor isn’t noticeable at all, only when it put it close to my ear. I’ve owned watches with many different movements, but these ones are right up there for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    I’ve regulated my Everest 2 weeks ago and it’s running absolutely bang on - I can position it at night to speed it up or slow it down, but it’s still only varying +/- 2 secs. Just incredible. And with the movement cover the rotor isn’t noticeable at all, only when it put it close to my ear. I’ve owned watches with many different movements, but these ones are right up there for me.
    The Everest is my more accurate watch, but also the loudest by a big margin. I thought my SARB035 was loud until the Everest arrived.
    It is not just loud, you can feel the rotor moving on your wrist. Considering my ears are not getting any younger, I wonder if I got a bad apple or if I actually have hearing superpowers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed875 View Post

    Oh another name maybe for consideration having been involved in aviation in the past; Globemaster
    If it's a Smiths, how about Smiths Astral, stars, navigation and all that and simpler branding of SMITHS ASTRAL in a 50s nuclear/jet age/space age style and font?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    Too big for me but I really like the design
    What size of wrist have you got that you think 38mm is too big?

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    Not the prototypes I was hoping for (any news on the Caribbean?) but looking very smart all the same.

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    Very pretty, looks like I will have to break open the piggy bank.

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    You don't think you'll have a problem with the name 'Worldmaster'? Atlantic has been using that word for some of its models for rather a long time, and still sells watches today with that name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    You don't think you'll have a problem with the name 'Worldmaster'? Atlantic has been using that word for some of its models for rather a long time, and still sells watches today with that name.
    Atlantic registered the trademark "Worldmaster" but if you check the trademark register, you can see that they didn't renew it in January 2020 when it expired and it's now showing as "dead".

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    I like them, but 36mm would work better for me. Keep the thickness as small as practicable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Atlantic registered the trademark "Worldmaster" but if you check the trademark register, you can see that they didn't renew it in January 2020 when it expired and it's now showing as "dead".

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    Whilst the registered mark may have lapsed, it doesn't mean the unregistered rights fall away (which can still be enforced). It would be sensible to check whether there is ongoing use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrudd View Post
    I often wonder if Hodinkee is a forum lurker, it's not the first time an article has appeared connected with a recently announced project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrudd View Post
    Enjoyed that article with my mid afternoon tea and scone! Thanks for posting.

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    "Poledancer"?

    Seriously, how about a display back and a micro-rotor movement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I often wonder if Hodinkee is a forum lurker, it's not the first time an article has appeared connected with a recently announced project.

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    I wouldn't take it personally - Hodinkee have had a UG fetish for some time and they're more likely to showcase something either if one of their team is sitting on a load of inventory in their personal collection or if they're about to shift some in the Hodinkee shop. They claim to have a firewall between the editorial side and the retail bit but I don't believe any of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I've never found micro-rotors to be particularly efficient at generating a decent power reserve.

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    I may be wrong but the only Chinese microtor movement is the Hangzhou 5000A and that, weirdly, has a sub-second at 7 . Seems to have a 42 hour power reserve.
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    Both look lovely but it would have to be the cream one for me.

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    Fabulous

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    Would quite like to see what the black one looks like with rose gold highlights.

    Sorry, but the branding/logo is just not for me.

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    My opinion

    First time weighing in on watch aesthetics,
    so take this with a grain of salt:

    1) England should be moved from Smiths logo to bottom and say "Made in England"
    2) "Automatic" should be replaced by "Worldmaster"
    3) Red watch band with cream dial ?

    What is so special about this watch that makes it a "Worldmaster" ?

    Other the otherhand, the watch looks quite nice overall and the back engraving is also very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f1prb22 View Post
    First time weighing in on watch aesthetics,
    so take this with a grain of salt:

    1) England should be moved from Smiths logo to bottom and say "Made in England"
    2) "Automatic" should be replaced by "Worldmaster"
    3) Red watch band with cream dial ?

    What is so special about this watch that makes it a "Worldmaster" ?

    Other the otherhand, the watch looks quite nice overall and the back engraving is also very nice.
    Ref point 1, I don’t think they will be....?


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    When will this be available to order?
    The Red strap looks good...
    Hope to see Eddie do more dress watch watch type....

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    I liked the 'Great Britain' on the bottom of the Precistas, but 'Smiths England' is the historic and current branding. Black, Gold and steel is a great looking colour combination rarely seen nowadays. I'm normally a no date fan but I'd also like to see the shaped Polerouter style date window as an extra point of interest on the dial ... or the model name in the bottom half of the dial. As to name - if theres an issue with Worldmaster then why not Worldrouter. Nice watch as it is of course and 38mm a good mid size for most - look forward to seeing the protype pics ....and still eagerly waiting for the Caribbeans!
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    For what it's worth, I'm out of this one because of:

    - Gold accents
    - No lume
    - No crosshair dial

    But good luck to everyone interested :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
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    I prefer this version. Good choice of name. I read Fienne's To the Ends of the Earth: the Transglobe Expedition a few years ago and like the exploration and polar connection. I still think it needs lume pips and a simpler black and silver version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post




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    Hell yes salmon

    Only other improvement would a movement other than Miyota (whirrrrr)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fogar View Post
    For what it's worth, I'm out of this one because of:

    - Gold accents
    - No lume
    - No crosshair dial

    But good luck to everyone interested :)
    Agreed with the above, plus should be 36mm. I know the gold accents are true to many of the original but not for me. I like the general idea but would prefer if closer to the image below. Trapezoid date window I like, but could live without.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrudd View Post
    Agreed with the above, plus should be 36mm. I know the gold accents are true to many of the original but not for me. I like the general idea but would prefer if closer to the image below. Trapezoid date window I like, but could live without.

    36mm is little bigger than a boys' size .. plenty of dinky little vintage watches for the skinny wrist brigade, 38mm is a more modern size for today's bigger people/modern tastes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk View Post
    36mm is little bigger than a boys' size .. plenty of dinky little vintage watches for the skinny wrist brigade, 38mm is a more modern size for today's bigger people/modern tastes.
    +1
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    Salmon one looks good!

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    Stunning!

    Gorgeous! Version A is particularly fine. Love that there's no lume and no date. What is the thickness and lug to lug please Eddie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk View Post
    36mm is little bigger than a boys' size .. plenty of dinky little vintage watches for the skinny wrist brigade, 38mm is a more modern size for today's bigger people/modern tastes.
    -1 I might be have been in at 36mm, but not at 38mm. Oversized watches always end up looking wrong (or in the worst cases, just silly) - especially those based on an existing, smaller design that works well. Resist the fad!

    Also agree with the crosshairs on the dial - I think it will need something if they are going to be 38mm - there will be a lot of empty dial.
    Last edited by Neil.Ldn; 31st December 2020 at 12:13.

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    Oh the salmon one yes please Eddie

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    A huge, 'YES!', to the salmon dial. I mentioned the introduction of one on Facebook and it got a lot of likes.

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    The concept renderings look handsome, but imho without lume and the crosshair or vertical line on the dial they appear to dressy. The original GG design struck an excellent balance between elegance and ruggedness - that's where its appeal lies for me. The Smiths Trans-Global could continue the idea and be a modern update with a slightly larger 38mm case, 100m wr and anti-mag capability. Trapezoid date window would be nice as well. ;-)
    Eddie, have you considered a baton hand-set for this?

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    Nice concept, I'll follow this one with interest. With this and the other interesting projects in the pipeline it looks like 2021 may turn out to be an expensive year watch wise

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