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Thread: Rolex 1665 Great White - Trigger's Broom

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    Rolex 1665 Great White - Trigger's Broom

    I was looking at the cleanest 1665 GW that I've ever seen. However, despite the insert, hands and face being original, it has:

    - New case
    - New super dome
    - New bracelet
    - and gawd knows what of the movement.

    All done by Rolex themselves and comes, obviously with the service papers. No original B&P.

    Looks stunning, but how is something like that valued?

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    What's a new Seadweller worth?
    I'd probably start about there as a lot of that is essentially new but much nicer looking than the new model.

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    There will certainly be a market for it. I had a Mark 1 Great White with replacement Luminova hands and it just looked wrong. I think if that was mine I would get someone like Simon Freese/James Hyman to remove the Luminova and replace with something more colour matched to the plots that wouldn't shine like a torch at night.

    I would have said less than a new SD. My best guess would be £7.5k to £8k.

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    Original dial like that....there’s no “right answer,” but I think you’d find a buyer at £10k.

    One of mine is the opposite — all original but a luminova service dial. Formerly the watch of a city “figure” who wasn’t bothered by originality and wanted condition to be as good as possible.

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    Love them


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    I think it looks great. Rather that than a beaten up old thing looks like it's been through a mangle. Patina is fine if it's your own patina, otherwise it's just wear. (unless it's old dangerous and collectable of course!)
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Like that, very tidy. The description of lume as warm makes a lot of sense when you see these.

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    Here's the shocker: they want £23k for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    Here's the shocker: they want £23k for it!

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    Nah, gone off it now.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    Here's the shocker: they want £23k for it!

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    Who are the would-be sellers ?

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    The replacement case would be the only big issue for me.

    £23k is crazy.

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    I think it is a great watch and one that I would be very much interested in buying.....but not at 23k. I have seen similar examples of GMTs, Explorers for around the 10-11k mark which I think is a more realistic price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Who are the would-be sellers ?
    Tried to pm but your inbox is full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    Tried to pm but your inbox is full.

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    Is it a secret squirrel job?
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Is it a secret squirrel job?
    I don't mean it that way, but if I'm negotiating then I rather not publicise on open forum. Its a legit vendor whom I've dealt with though.

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    When did you start going vintage, John?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefaulkner View Post
    When did you start going vintage, John?
    Hallo mate, buying a 666 that had been passed around the forum turned my head. I've been looking at a level of conversion from the ceramics towards some rattly 5-digits, but its a friggin minefield!

    Here's a pic of that 1665, with a 666 from the same source and my 666 together. Some loveliness!!!

    Mine on the right, GW 1665 on the left:

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    Sadly (for me) this is the sum of it's parts and not in anyway a true vintage piece.

    I understand the furore (market, not OP) but the real stuff is original with correct B&P and priced accordingly.

    As originally posted - it will always be seen by many as 'triggers broom'.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    I don't mean it that way, but if I'm negotiating then I rather not publicise on open forum. Its a legit vendor whom I've dealt with though.

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    Ah I see, didn’t realise you were considering buying it. Fair enough.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Sadly (for me) this is the sum of it's parts and not in anyway a true vintage piece.

    I understand the furore (market, not OP) but the real stuff is original with correct B&P and priced accordingly.

    As originally posted - it will always be seen by many as 'triggers broom'.
    I think that's correct, but as others have said, at the right price...maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Ah I see, didn’t realise you were considering buying it. Fair enough.
    Cool!!

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    Ah, the minefeild that is vintage Rolex. Not a game I can even consider playing for sports Rolex.

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