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    Question Navigator deployment clasp -- how is this supposed to fit?

    Hey all

    I just received my Navigator and Baby Dreadnought (RC24161022) in Amsterdam.

    Both are really beautiful watches. (Love the case on the Navigator; the Dread turns my wrist into a weapon ;)

    My question is HOW to best orient/fit the deployment clasp for the Navigator. I have small wrists (16cm/6.5"), so these issues may not apply to others:

    With the "tail in" (that's correct, yeah?), I don't know the purpose of the free loop, since the tail (on the inside) can't move.

    The clasp itself does NOT sit flat on my wrist, so there's a gap (see photo) and the band is somewhat lifted/stretched on one side by the clasp.

    Any advice? I've seen a lot of pix with new/different straps. I can do that, but this strap is indeed really nice. Maybe I should switch to a regular buckle?



    Last edited by davidzet; 17th November 2020 at 12:42. Reason: photos

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    Deployants are a right PITA. Some work well and some don't. I'm sorry I can't work it out from your photos but I'm sure someone with the same watch will be along soon to help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidzet View Post
    Hey all

    I just received my Navigator and Baby Dreadnought (RC24161022) in Amsterdam.

    Both are really beautiful watches. (Love the case on the Navigator; the Dread turns my wrist into a weapon ;)

    My question is HOW to best orient/fit the deployment clasp for the Navigator. I have small wrists (16cm/6.5"), so these issues may not apply to others:

    With the "tail in" (that's correct, yeah?), I don't know the purpose of the free loop, since the tail (on the inside) can't move.

    The clasp itself does NOT sit flat on my wrist, so there's a gap (see photo) and the band is somewhat lifted/stretched on one side by the clasp.

    Any advice? I've seen a lot of pix with new/different straps. I can do that, but this strap is indeed really nice. Maybe I should switch to a regular buckle?
    See Eddie's advice for adjusting the deployant clasp here: https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...=1#post5590349

    The secret to adjusting the strap/clasp on the supplied strap is not to try to feed the tail of the strap through but to position it and then pinch the sides of the strap to slide it into the recess on the clasp before locating the peg in the appropriate hole.

    Eddie

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    Quote Originally Posted by alx.lago View Post
    See Eddie's advice for adjusting the deployant clasp here: https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...=1#post5590349
    Yes, I saw/read that.

    I don't have any issues with fitting the tail to the clasp. I have issues with the clasp lifting the band off my wrist. If it was "form fitting", then the band would be snug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidzet View Post
    Yes, I saw/read that.

    I don't have any issues with fitting the tail to the clasp. I have issues with the clasp lifting the band off my wrist. If it was "form fitting", then the band would be snug.
    That's what the oversized keeper is for, it will slide over the clasp and hold it flat.

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    Not enough girth?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    That's what the oversized keeper is for, it will slide over the clasp and hold it flat.

    Eddie
    Yes, that makes sense, but the clasp maybe needs more space than I can provide with a 6.5" wrist?



    ...as you can see, the clasp pulls the band "straight", thereby creating a "sharp" rather than gradual turn...

    Edit: I flexed the band a bit more, and I can see that further breaking in might help the clasp sit a bit closer... Time will tell ;)

    Beautiful watch and band btw :)
    Last edited by davidzet; 17th November 2020 at 19:09. Reason: Add photo and more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidzet View Post
    Yes, that makes sense, but the clasp maybe needs more space than I can provide with a 6.5" wrist?



    ...as you can see, the clasp pulls the band "straight", thereby creating a "sharp" rather than gradual turn...

    Edit: I flexed the band a bit more, and I can see that further breaking in might help the clasp sit a bit closer... Time will tell ;)

    Beautiful watch and band btw :)
    Maybe try fitting the watch around one of the harder (wrist shaped) watch cushions for a few days to encourage the leather to form into the requisite shape. This has worked more quickly for me than breaking in through normal wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidzet View Post
    Yes, that makes sense, but the clasp maybe needs more space than I can provide with a 6.5" wrist?



    ...as you can see, the clasp pulls the band "straight", thereby creating a "sharp" rather than gradual turn...

    Edit: I flexed the band a bit more, and I can see that further breaking in might help the clasp sit a bit closer... Time will tell ;)

    Beautiful watch and band btw :)
    Mine arrived earlier today (Thu 19 Nov) and I'm in the same position with respect to the deployant clasp. I've got a 7" wrist and I think the end of the strap permanently attached to the clasp (not the end that you feed in) needs to be longer to work properly on my wrist. I even tried flipping the band so that the end with the clasp is attached to the 6 o'clock side without any benefit. Lovely looking watch though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidzet View Post
    Hey all

    I just received my Navigator and Baby Dreadnought (RC24161022) in Amsterdam.

    Both are really beautiful watches. (Love the case on the Navigator; the Dread turns my wrist into a weapon ;)

    My question is HOW to best orient/fit the deployment clasp for the Navigator. I have small wrists (16cm/6.5"), so these issues may not apply to others:

    With the "tail in" (that's correct, yeah?), I don't know the purpose of the free loop, since the tail (on the inside) can't move.

    The clasp itself does NOT sit flat on my wrist, so there's a gap (see photo) and the band is somewhat lifted/stretched on one side by the clasp.

    Any advice? I've seen a lot of pix with new/different straps. I can do that, but this strap is indeed really nice. Maybe I should switch to a regular buckle?




    But more importantly, why do you have it earlier than me? ;)
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    I can’t picture whether this would work or not, but would a tang buckle provide any useful solution to those with a smaller wrist?

    There might be some mileage in commissioning some SMITHS branded tang buckles, I think there are a fair few that would readily pay for one of these as an accessory.

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    men's wrist sizes

    This wrist size analysis might prove to be informative.
    https://theslenderwrist.com/average-...ize-for-a-man/

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    I have ladies wrists and my buckle is bang in middle of underside of wrist and I think it's incredibly comfortable.
    Pin is in 5th hole.

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    So there's the guvnor with his 8.25" wrists and the clasp is perfectly centered on the underside of his wrist and then there's @wallyuk with self-confessed "ladies" wrists who also claims the same thing.

    I'm somewhat puzzled as to how both of these statements can be true, given the apparent disparity in wrist size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hbr245b View Post
    So there's the guvnor with his 8.25" wrists and the clasp is perfectly centered on the underside of his wrist and then there's @wallyuk with self-confessed "ladies" wrists who also claims the same thing.

    I'm somewhat puzzled as to how both of these statements can be true, given the apparent disparity in wrist size.
    Well here's mine.



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    My wrist is approximately 7”.

    Here’s my ‘clasp shot’.

    (Fantastic watch by the way )





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    Love the strap and the clasp is good quality but it doesn't sit well on my 6½" wrist either.
    I swapped the clasp for an 18mm butterfly clasp I already had on a strap from Steveostraps. It's got a smaller 'footprint' on the inside of my wrist.
    The existing keeper does it's job and the change of clasp makes the strap really wearable for me.
    I'm wearing it on the 3rd tightest hole.
    I had a look on Cousins UK and the clasp I have looks just like this one at £7.50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason.humphrey.180 View Post
    Love the strap and the clasp is good quality but it doesn't sit well on my 6½" wrist either.
    I swapped the clasp for an 18mm butterfly clasp I already had on a strap from Steveostraps. It's got a smaller 'footprint' on the inside of my wrist.
    The existing keeper does it's job and the change of clasp makes the strap really wearable for me.
    I'm wearing it on the 3rd tightest hole.
    Nice swap. Thanks for the info!

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    Mine was “out of reach” until today.

    Started with the butterfly clasp but giving the single fold clasp another chance on my 7” wrist. My initial opinion from when I received the watch a few weeks ago may have been a little hasty as it looks and feels better now.


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    I tried to set mine up yesterday but the clasp just pops open when closed with almost no force. Anyone else experienced the same issue?

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