Reply With QuoteThat looks 30’ minutes of arc to the right of CU to me. I’d have it regulated.
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Is it just me or it it very satisfying when the crown is inline with the watch?
Only have ever had 2.
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That looks 30’ minutes of arc to the right of CU to me. I’d have it regulated.
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Citizen can manage it, so you'd hope the likes of Tudor would...
The pushers rotate fairly freely, so they're rarely aligned as well!
My first Rolex had an inline crown and I assumed that was intentional! Was a bit disappointed when it came back from a service with misalignment.
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Aaaaaand now I've noticed mine aren't aligned. Thanks :/
I honestly would of thought that this would have been quite easy to achieve. It has always been a slight annoyance of mine.
What fresh hell is this?
Don't just do something, sit there. - TNH
Don't think any of mine line up, going to have to check all my watches now
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Although I have completely failed to fully comprehend why, perfectly-aligning threaded objects is apparently no small matter to achieve, hence why, for example, Hublot's bezels drive OCD people to self-harm with their misaligned screws:Originally Posted by Ghost Chilli
Companies that align their screw heads do so by other means (the screws are not real, or are secured from beneath)...
So, yeah, this should be popcornworthy...
Or dull.
Very, very dull...
The Germans have it nailed
As do the Brits:The Germans have it nailed
Even the famed Roger Smith - protege of George Daniels - has stated that getting screw heads to perfectly align is a complete pain from a manufacturing standpoint (machining tolerances meaning the screw thread in plates matching exactly with where the screw thread begins on the screw itself to achieve desired alignment, and the same for all visible screws etc.) and not really worth doing, and I’ll take his word for it.
For some reason it’s something that seems to annoy a lot of people.
It is feasible - like with on some high-end shotguns - but takes a lot of effort & time (and money, therefore) for something ultimately so inconsequential.
However, on their precious metal SkyDwellers Rolex have a patented mechanism to achieve perfect perpendicular alignment of the screw down crown’s logo with the case.
Similarly, Omega has their Naiad lock on some models to allow the case back to be oriented as desired.
For my part, I couldn’t care less.
With something like a normal crown, even if perpendicular alignment is - fortuitously, rather than on purpose - the case, over time I would have thought wearing of screw-down threads plus drying of the gaskets might well affect the alignment anyway. Even if not, surely it depends upon the amount of force one prefers to tighten a crown down.
Besides, I never could understand why alignment at a right angle/vertically to the case, was any more ‘right’ than aligning in parallel/horizontally to the case was? It’s kind of subjective.
Right. I prefer this alignment when i look at my watch.
Yaaawn.
I’ve never even looked at the crown alignment .
Better than another Rolex thread?
Very dull but no less annoying. Those screws would annoy me and has put me off buying one. That and the fact I couldn’t afford one.Although I have completely failed to fully comprehend why, perfectly-aligning threaded objects is apparently no small matter to achieve, hence why, for example, Hublot's bezels drive OCD people to self-harm with their misaligned screws:
Companies that align their screw heads do so by other means (the screws are not real, or are secured from beneath)...
So, yeah, this should be popcornworthy...
Or dull.
Very, very dull...
Not at all, my old AT never lined up and it use to annoy me.
A look in the watch box shows:
...not all Germans have this licked.
...Tudor Blackbays don't matter, mine, at least, has a pattern that looks OK from any orientation.
...Zeniths don't matter as the star looks fine in any orientation.
...Vintage makers seemed to know better that to create this new sort of OCD.
Just thinking about Vostok and the wobbly crown. Could they make it two parts (crown and stem) and align after?
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The Explorer crown in the OP isn’t lined up.
None of mine align but it doesn’t bother me.
Doesn’t bother me but surely depends on how much force it’s tightened with.
I posted in the Friday 13th thread about how my North Flag had found its way back into my favour, and then I clicked on this thread...
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Indeed, and the slightest bit of wear on the thread makes a significant difference.
Don't just do something, sit there. - TNH
Just a bit of logic suggests this isn’t something that can be reliably ‘manufactured’. Imagine the crown logo aligns perfectly when the watch is new. Over a couple of years one of the crown O rings compresses ever so slightly, so the crown now turns a fraction more - which you’d never notice with a plain crown and is not a ‘fault’ in any way. So the owner either ignores it, or sends it back to be ‘fixed’ or - surely the worst ‘solution’ - leaves the crown loose so the logo aligns, potentially flooding the watch (and yes I know a submariner is still watertight unscrewed blah blah but it’s a risk). I had a watch that aligned from new by chance, a year later it was off. I just ignored it. Watch OCD is a waste of energy!
How about perfectly upside down then!
I'm wearing a TAG Aquaracer at the moment and just checked the crown signage - it's completely upside down.
Does it bother me - no of course not.
Cheers,
Neil.
My sub also aligned upside down. DJ and FF both squint. Doesn't bother me.
My Ulysse Nardin seems to align the crown whenever I've checked, I guess the fact that I've consciously checked this at all means I'm part way to the booby hatch already but it's just part and parcel of this mad hobby for me. Strangely I've never checked my other watches - probably because the crown signing on these are all fairly boring compared to the lovely blue enameled(?) inlay on the UN.
:-) Made me laugh that.
This brings back memories of the RTZ club.
F.T.F.A.
Special edition made for the Australian marketHow about perfectly upside down then!
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Very good. I think that went whooosh over most people hereAs do the Brits:
Sell it!I posted in the Friday 13th thread about how my North Flag had found its way back into my favour, and then I clicked on this thread...
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Dear old Dorothy
My sentiment also.
Thanks for drawing attention to this and ruining my life
Yes, No idea what it is.
Some people make a lot of noise about the supposed laziness of an unsigned crown. It’s never bothered me personally and one of the benefits is that one never has to worry about alignment if there’s nothing to align!
On a screw down crown usually you just need to compress the o ring to get a seal ; you don't need to ratchet the crown down to the nth degree , so this usually provides enough adjustment to safely align the crown logo unless the alignment is already cuckoo from the factory. Can't say its been much of a problem on any watch I've owned.
Glad you spotted it!
The 'issue' has been designed-out* by not having any indication as to what 'way around' the crown is turned; it is therefore always perfect on the Smiths Navigator (and any watch with an unsigned crown).
*Let's pretend that unsigned crowns were designed for this reason and not just for reducing parts machining costs...
There is nothing to "worry" about whether signed or not.
Cheers,
Neil.
When you wrote "Am I A*al" I thought this thread is about hiding gold watches :-)
I think AP got it right
all correct and aligned on top ...but screws underneath obviously random
I have to say, the alignment of crown logo never bothered me for all the sound engineering reasons set out above - but I was most satisfied to see that my Planet Ocean came back from service last week with a new crown and tube which aligned the Omega perfectly with the case. It's quite pleasing. I do of course ignore the cheerfully misaligned "He" crown on the helium valve.
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