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    Watch tools

    Having fudged my way through strap changes for too long I’d like to buy some really good quality tools for strap changing and adjusting.

    Thought this might be the place to ask what to get and where from?

    Thanks in advance, Francis


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    I hear Bergeon make some of the industry standard spring bar tools.

    I'd quite like to get the spring bar tweezers like watchmakers use, but the Bergeon version of these are not cheap! Not sure if cheaper versions would be any good.

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    Everest make some: https://www.everestbands.com/collect...pring-bar-tool

    I did invest in a Bergeon tool myself though

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    I just ordered a cheap bracelet pin remover from Amazon last night for resizing the Watchgecko bracelet I ordered the other day. I will report back when I receive it.

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    I picked up some spring bar tweezers and associated tools from Cousins - quality/£ seem decent enough to me...
    https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/s...removing-tools

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    I bought a Bergeon 6767-F from eBay. Very happy with it, especially when compared to the previous cheapie I had.
    Bergeon 8008 case back opening ball from Cousins.
    Cheap case back took from eBay, haven't needed to use it yet.
    Bought a cheap set of screwdrivers from Amazon, for changing bracelets.
    Two cheap loupes from Cousins and a set of high magnification reading glasses from Amazon.

    My work is limited to changing straps and replacing batteries.
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    Another vote for Bergeon 6767.

    Have had mine for over 20 years.

    The pusher and fork ends are replaceable.
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    For screwdrivers I have a carousel of AF Swiss which have been excellent.
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    Another vote for Bergeon 6767, works with most bracelets / straps, just buy a few replacement fork... mine worn out after some heavy usage.

    If you are planning to use it on Rolex bracelets maybe also get the 7825, which is a pair of tweezer and specifically designed for Rolex I believe

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    I have a Bergeron 6767f which is great for most things, but still struggle with my Tudor bracelet which is a really tight fit.

    If anyone can recommend a cheaper tweezer/plier style set than the Bergeons that aren’t compete tat I’d be grateful.


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    Just used a 6767f to remove the bracelet off my black bay. It is tight but with patience and masking tape on the lugs it’s doable.

    I haven’t found any tweezers that are reasonable for the quality, and I refuse to use the cheap eBay ones.

    Someone mentioned one from cousins a few posts below I think?

    Quote Originally Posted by enndriz View Post
    I have a Bergeron 6767f which is great for most things, but still struggle with my Tudor bracelet which is a really tight fit.

    If anyone can recommend a cheaper tweezer/plier style set than the Bergeons that aren’t compete tat I’d be grateful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gaurav_tzuk View Post
    Just used a 6767f to remove the bracelet off my black bay. It is tight but with patience and masking tape on the lugs it’s doable.

    I haven’t found any tweezers that are reasonable for the quality, and I refuse to use the cheap eBay ones.

    Someone mentioned one from cousins a few posts below I think?
    Yeah I’ve done it a couple of times on mine and it is doable but I find it pretty time consuming & stressful, as first time I tried it managed to nick one of the lugs (don’t even ask me how).

    Don’t like the look of the cheapos either but something in the middle would be more palatable. Might give the cousins ones a go


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    Anyone tried one of the cheaper imitation 7825 tweezer style tools? Waste of money or do they actually do the job?

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    being a tight wad,i bought a cheapo springbar tool and some bergeon ends,job done.

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    Buy the one's you see on eBay for around £8-11.00 then buy the original bergeon end's as I did. Still fairly expensive at a cost of £80.00ish but much better than the £150.00 mark.
    Strangely enough I bought one set of tips from cousins and the other from HS Walsh on eBay as it worked out a few pounds cheaper that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasemonkey View Post
    being a tight wad,i bought a cheapo springbar tool and some bergeon ends,job done.
    This is good to know (am also a tight wad). Already have the Bergeron tips from my 6767 so did wonder if they could be combined with some cheapish pliers.


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    I might of got mixed up but I was talking about the Bergeon 6825 tool when I said I bought the cheap one on eBay then the original bergeon tips from cousins and HS Walsh. Also I just checked and in total it only cost £68.00.
    Still a big saving on the £150.00 mark for an full original bergeon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sickie View Post
    I might of got mixed up but I was talking about the Bergeon 6825 tool when I said I bought the cheap one on eBay then the original bergeon tips from cousins and HS Walsh. Also I just checked and in total it only cost £68.00.
    Still a big saving on the £150.00 mark for an full original bergeon.



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    Which ends should I buy for Rolex? Bought the cheap (ish) tweezers/pliers!


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    It's hard to say because there are only 2 types of end's and both say suitable for Rolex watches.
    Standard size is 1.3mm and fine tip is 1.1mm so I guess it depends on the model.
    Either way having both sets wouldn't go a miss.
    Quote Originally Posted by FHKJ View Post
    Which ends should I buy for Rolex? Bought the cheap (ish) tweezers/pliers!


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    Will order both, thanks all


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    I have recently bought an Everest Strap for my watch and am now looking for a tool that can squeeze both ends of the spring bar at the same time. I am using an Everest bar tool and whilst I can remove the spring bar, it is not a pleasant or a pretty experience for me

    I have come to the conclusion that I will get the Bergeon 7825, speaking to the guys at HS Walsh, this tool is a copy of the Rolex tool #3200.

    Before I hit the go button, I might post in the wanted section and see if anyone has one to sell.

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    Yep, I have a Bergeon 7825 and it works well. Still not the easiest ever but makes it workable. Have to grit your teeth when you buy it as it's a lot of money for a pair of posh tweezers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Yep, I have a Bergeon 7825 and it works well. Still not the easiest ever but makes it workable. Have to grit your teeth when you buy it as it's a lot of money for a pair of posh tweezers.
    I know, changing the strap is hard enough, 3 hands would make it easier.

    The cost of the tweezers is steep, so my maths is telling me to buy a few more straps to give more options and to help smooth the cost..

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    Would this not do much the same thing for £32 though?

    https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/ho...g-bar-tweezers

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1011 View Post
    Would this not do much the same thing for £32 though?

    https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/ho...g-bar-tweezers
    I tried to ask the guys at Cousins for some advice on which tool to buy but they said they only deal B2B so could not help me.

    I though those £32 tweezers could do the same job, but understand the tips at 1.4mm could be too wide for a Rolex. Also, per the guys at HS, apparently these tweezers are narrower thus making them more difficult to use without opening the strap🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captaincook View Post
    I tried to ask the guys at Cousins for some advice on which tool to buy but they said they only deal B2B so could not help me.

    I though those £32 tweezers could do the same job, but understand the tips at 1.4mm could be too wide for a Rolex. Also, per the guys at HS, apparently these tweezers are narrower thus making them more difficult to use without opening the strap樂
    Ah good shout. Found this thread with some relevant info:

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...3rd-the-price-!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1011 View Post
    Ah good shout. Found this thread with some relevant info:

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...3rd-the-price-!
    That’s helpful, thanks. Doing it that way may give me more options with the too. Will take a look 👍

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