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    Iím really just after something that will track accurate heart rate under strain (and by default a more accurate indication of calorie burn), and thatís the main requirement - I need to keep my heart rate within a certain range, or rather from going over 200, as it can go a lot higher than what is normal for my age apparently, during very intense cardio. But if Iím buying a device, Iíd prefer to have as much practical use as possible from it.

    I might take a look at some of the Garmin range in any case.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Also, looks like our local gyms will be able to reopen on Monday.

    So... whatís the best starting point on the Concept 2 to get the best mid/longer term times. Am I better at doing a number of sprints, and then getting better at being able to keep up that faster pace for slightly longer each time as I get more conditioned to rowing, or am I better just putting in the time?
    It's just a matter of time...

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    In that case then you should be fine with the chest strap paired to the pm5, it shows the hr while your rowing (I think this is rowing workout mode dependant)

    You can also pair your phone/tablet to the pm5 giving a bigger display to monitor hr

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    I've been rowing again recently so thought I'd share this erg I did tonight. Double Bogey was ok and I think I could bogey but par a stretch for now.

    Bit of fun though, give it a go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    I've been rowing again recently so thought I'd share this erg I did tonight. Double Bogey was ok and I think I could bogey but par a stretch for now.

    Bit of fun though, give it a go

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    I like it. Looks like a tough course though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdh1 View Post
    I like it. Looks like a tough course though!
    The back 9 were a bit tricky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    The back 9 were a bit tricky

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    Do they have a pitch and put?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    I've been rowing again recently so thought I'd share this erg I did tonight. Double Bogey was ok and I think I could bogey but par a stretch for now.

    Bit of fun though, give it a go

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    Thanks for this. Looks like ‘fun’. Might give it a go tomorrow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdh1 View Post
    Do they have a pitch and put?
    I would go 9 holes and aim for 250m per I minute. That's a 2min/500 which is achievable for most. After that you're into crazy golf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    Thanks for this. Looks like ‚Äėfun‚Äô. Might give it a go tomorrow!
    Let us know how you get on if you do it.

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    How much attention to you pay to your technique guys?
    Iíve now got a rower and Iíve been watching videos on YouTube (mainly a user by the name of training tall) and he keeps banging on about the right technique.
    I try to keep my form as best I can but I struggle with the old legs-core-arms-arms-core-legs thing.
    Is it REALLY important to get it right? Iím never going to be a competitive rower, I just want to lose weight, increase my fitness and hopefully tone up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaytip View Post
    How much attention to you pay to your technique guys?
    Iíve now got a rower and Iíve been watching videos on YouTube (mainly a user by the name of training tall) and he keeps banging on about the right technique.
    I try to keep my form as best I can but I struggle with the old legs-core-arms-arms-core-legs thing.
    Is it REALLY important to get it right? Iím never going to be a competitive rower, I just want to lose weight, increase my fitness and hopefully tone up a bit.
    My understanding is that the 'perfect technique' isn't really important for the purpose you describe. You'll still be burning calories and working your lungs and muscles, even if technique isn't spot on. I think the focus on technique is more about being competitive. Having said that, I think it's worth at least trying to do it right (as you are doing) purely from an efficiency and safety standpoint. You do see some pretty awful strokes in the gyms, but there are probably a lot of perfectly adequate ones for fitness purposes, between there and perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaytip View Post
    How much attention to you pay to your technique guys?
    As jdh says, it's worth trying to do it right but don't get hung up on it. Perfect technique translates to more boat speed on the water but has less impact on an erg.

    What type of rower did you buy? Try the draft setting midway and don't be tempted to crank it up to max. If it's a concept, try a draft of around 120 (or around 5 on the numbers).

    Warming up correctly helps technique, so when you get on the rower try this:

    Sit there upright and row arms only for 1 min. Think about what your arms are doing, keep your elbows tucked in and finish with your shoulders back.

    Then introduce body swing. Back straight but not too stiff, shoulders rolling forwards slightly as you get to full reach.

    After 1 more minute break at the knees and row with arms, body and quarter legs.

    1 more minute half legs.

    Over the next minute go to full legs and therefore full stroke.

    This is the initial warm up at a rowing club. Avoids injury and helps you focus in what each part of the stroke does.

    Some people warm down the same way but I can never be bothered.

    Anyway, just about to do 4 x 1500m with 5 mins rest intervals . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    As jdh says, it's worth trying to do it right but don't get hung up on it. Perfect technique translates to more boat speed on the water but has less impact on an erg.

    What type of rower did you buy? Try the draft setting midway and don't be tempted to crank it up to max. If it's a concept, try a draft of around 120 (or around 5 on the numbers).

    Warming up correctly helps technique, so when you get on the rower try this:

    Sit there upright and row arms only for 1 min. Think about what your arms are doing, keep your elbows tucked in and finish with your shoulders back.

    Then introduce body swing. Back straight but not too stiff, shoulders rolling forwards slightly as you get to full reach.

    After 1 more minute break at the knees and row with arms, body and quarter legs.

    1 more minute half legs.

    Over the next minute go to full legs and therefore full stroke.

    This is the initial warm up at a rowing club. Avoids injury and helps you focus in what each part of the stroke does.

    Some people warm down the same way but I can never be bothered.

    Anyway, just about to do 4 x 1500m with 5 mins rest intervals . .

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    I bought what looks to me like a concept II copy from a place down here in South Wales that sells commercial gym equipment.
    Iíll give that warm up a go.
    Cheers.

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    While relaxed technique is ok, be careful to make sure the main drive is still from the legs...trying to generate too much of the power from the core/arms can end up causing a knackered lower back.
    Especially relevant on lower rate stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    I would go 9 holes and aim for 250m per I minute. That's a 2min/500 which is achievable for most. After that you're into crazy golf!

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    Yes, 1 min is my distance and I have the British age group record for it, but I'm a bit like one of those drag race cars - only good for one run before I need a rebuild! 18 repeats looks daunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdh1 View Post
    Yes, 1 min is my distance and I have the British age group record for it, but I'm a bit like one of those drag race cars - only good for one run before I need a rebuild! 18 repeats looks daunting.
    Cool. What's the record for 1min and what age bracket are you in if you don't mind me asking.

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    Iíve done a bit of ĎConcept2 stalkingí I reckon we are looking at the male 60-69 lightweight record of 340m, which is pretty flipping phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    Cool. What's the record for 1min and what age bracket are you in if you don't mind me asking.

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    Over 60 LW - 340m

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    Iíve done a bit of ĎConcept2 stalkingí I reckon we are looking at the male 60-69 lightweight record of 340m, which is pretty flipping phenomenal.
    Ah yes, just replied with that! Thankyou

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdh1 View Post

    Ah yes, just replied with that! Thankyou
    Out of interest (as a keeníish indoor rower myself) how tall are you and what stroke rate did you average for the record?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    Out of interest (as a keeníish indoor rower myself) how tall are you and what stroke rate did you average for the record?
    I'm 5'11". Stroke rate was 52. Tactics...go flat out and hang on!

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    Over 20km/h. I think. If my Maths is correct.

    That is phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdh1 View Post
    I'm 5'11". Stroke rate was 52. Tactics...go flat out and hang on!
    That's a 1.28/500 split from a standing start! Quite something especially as (I think) you must be under 75kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shropshire Lad View Post
    That's a 1.28/500 split from a standing start! Quite something especially as (I think) you must be under 75kg.

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    Yes 1.28.2 average. Reached max rate of 1.26 and held around that for as long as possible. I'm pretty much bang on the weight limit.

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    I was expecting you to say you were well over 6í...maintaining rate 52 at a decent pace its good going (kind of stating the obvious with a British record in the bag).

    The 1:00 is definitely a Ďfly and dieí, there are some interesting strength sessions that could enable you to eek this out a little further - one of them is based on short full power sessions at very high DF, if you are interested let me know and I will dig out the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    I was expecting you to say you were well over 6í...maintaining rate 52 at a decent pace its good going (kind of stating the obvious with a British record in the bag).

    The 1:00 is definitely a Ďfly and dieí, there are some interesting strength sessions that could enable you to eek this out a little further - one of them is based on short full power sessions at very high DF, if you are interested let me know and I will dig out the link.

    Yes I'd be interested. I haven't really trained for it and have only had two attempts. First was 336 and second was 340. That was just before Christmas. I haven't done it since. I'd love to go for the WR but it's ridiculous. One guy from Canada is head and shoulders above everyone else at 359. I haven't seen any others in the category above 346.

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    An increase of 20m would be a big improvement, but if you havenít done a great deal of training like this it could be achievable, it has to be worth having a crack at it!

    This is the article I was thinking about:
    https://peakcentre.wordpress.com/200...g-performance/

    I have always concentrated more on the longer stuff, I am only 5í9Ē and hwt so I have no hope on the sprint distances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    An increase of 20m would be a big improvement, but if you havenít done a great deal of training like this it could be achievable, it has to be worth having a crack at it!

    This is the article I was thinking about:
    https://peakcentre.wordpress.com/200...g-performance/

    I have always concentrated more on the longer stuff, I am only 5í9Ē and hwt so I have no hope on the sprint distances.

    Thanks, that's something I'll try when I get back on the rower (waiting for a back niggle to clear)

    Can't imagine being able to make up 20 metres (5 will be a stretch) but I like the idea of this kind of training, so fun to try.

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    It arrived this morning, ordered on the 27th November!



    Time permitting I'll hopefully get it assembled today and start getting all the online stuff sorted out.

    If anyone fancies the one below it'll be on SC soon!


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    I've just sold my current one on SC. I have a new one coming, which I was expecting in a week or two, but based on your order/delivery date, may be closer to a month away. No matter, I'll spend the time getting a bit more turbo training in and come back to the rowing with a refreshed back!

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    I got myself on the Concept 2 waiting list after breaking my cheap rowing machine. Finally got to order one today, and it should be despatched on 10th May - canít wait as I have missed my regular rowing slots before tea.

    Pete

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    Bought a water rower and it arrived last week.
    Best distance for 10 minutes is 1914 metres. Heart was bursting out my chest, getting easier though.

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    Thought Iíd resurrect this thread as I love my concept 2. Not been using it as much as Iíd like but thatís only because the weather has been decent so ive been out and about a bit more and on my road bike instead.

    Iíve only been ďergingĒ a couple of years but I like to work my way through different distances and try to PB it then move on the the next oneÖ.so after I set my 5km I knew Iíd be close to 2k fitness. I got that recently and now Iíd like to work on my 500m. Has anyone got sprint distance specific sessions I should try? I do quite a lot of 500m/1min rest intervalsÖ.but those are normally at 2km pace (approx 1:45). I think I need something sorter and quicker. Iíll try that golf game above but 18 rounds sounds too much if Iím going full intensity

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    When I was rowing we used to do 8x500m full intensity - you rest while your partner does theirs and an extra minute or two after the 5th. Someone was always sick so not sure Iíd recommend it


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    Quote Originally Posted by greenandblack View Post
    When I was rowing we used to do 8x500m full intensity - you rest while your partner does theirs and an extra minute or two after the 5th. Someone was always sick so not sure Iíd recommend it


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    Yes that sounds pretty tough. Iíd enjoy it afterwards though.

    The concept 2 online logbook is great if you have access to a machine with PM5 monitor and the ergdata app on your phone. It helps keep me motivated and I know what to target each session. Plus all your records will be kept on there and youíll be able to see how you compare to others in the online rankings.

    Iím going to try beat my 500m and 1 min efforts then go back to my 1 hour


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    Shorter max power sessions should help, I posted a link a few posts above.

    And when you are going for a shorter distance PB like these go with higher rate, my 500m PB is at 40SPM and 1:00 at 44SPM. I am passed my best but if I was going for a PB now I would probably try to increase rate for these distances.

    Also play with higher DFs, I do practically everything at 110 these days, but found that a higher DF works well for this shorter stuff.

    As a reference point my 1:00 PB is 351m (at age 49), while I am not one of the quick guys for this shorter stuff, I think it shows that the approach I described can give a respectable result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManCityDG View Post
    Yes that sounds pretty tough. Iíd enjoy it afterwards though.

    The concept 2 online logbook is great if you have access to a machine with PM5 monitor and the ergdata app on your phone. It helps keep me motivated and I know what to target each session. Plus all your records will be kept on there and youíll be able to see how you compare to others in the online rankings.

    Iím going to try beat my 500m and 1 min efforts then go back to my 1 hour


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    Scrap that ! Found it lol

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