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    The forum doesn't focus on anything. The members decide what to focus on, and it seems a lot want that to be Rolex. Which seems to annoy some members who perhaps like less popular brands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W17GEN View Post
    Nice lounge in which to enjoy your shafting. Much prefer BP in Switzerland.
    And so he continues where he left off. How long before the next breakdown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    The forum doesn't focus on anything. The members decide what to focus on, and it seems a lot want that to be Rolex. Which seems to annoy some members who perhaps like less popular brands.
    As far as I'm aware there are dedicated Rolex forums where the 'chosen ones' can share photos of wrist shots in AD's far and wide, band together to discuss Rolex waiting lists and how boo-hoo awful it is not to have the stickers left on, where the hardened aficionado can buy a service coffin or try to blag a bezel protector for the Submariner that never leaves their safe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    As far as I'm aware there are dedicated Rolex forums where the 'chosen ones' can share photos of wrist shots in AD's far and wide, band together to discuss Rolex waiting lists and how boo-hoo awful it is not to have the stickers left on, where the hardened aficionado can buy a service coffin or try to blag a bezel protector for the Submariner that never leaves their safe.


    and 'wrist-rolls'............. obligatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    As far as I'm aware there are dedicated Rolex forums where the 'chosen ones' can share photos of wrist shots in AD's far and wide, band together to discuss Rolex waiting lists and how boo-hoo awful it is not to have the stickers left on, where the hardened aficionado can buy a service coffin or try to blag a bezel protector for the Submariner that never leaves their safe.


    As far as Iím aware TZ is open to all makes. Unless you know otherwise of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    As far as Iím aware TZ is open to all makes. Unless you know otherwise of course.
    Absolutely, and as far as I'm aware all opinions are permitted, oh and congrats on the Submarinerwhatever .
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    The forum doesn't focus on anything. The members decide what to focus on, and it seems a lot want that to be Rolex. Which seems to annoy some members who perhaps like less popular brands.
    Some of that focus may be negative. Some of it may be positive. Thatís kind of how a forum works isnít it? I can only speak for myself but I donít find it annoying, just a bit repetitive tbh. It does seem there are an equal number of Ďbrand criticsí and Ďbrand defendersí at play - and Iím sure the same happens across any number of fora.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    Aesthetically it's gone from gentlemen's club to airport lounge!
    Couldnít have put that better myself. Itís definitely a cross between executive airport hotel & airport lounge

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    and 'wrist-rolls'............. obligatory.
    What is a wrist roll?

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    https://youtu.be/RvLbxvwZ1eg

    This - kinda cheesy.

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    Seems to me that the Rolex fans are an overly sensitive bunch who canít accept any criticism of their beloved brand or any of the watches they produce. Thankfully Rolex have their full attention, Iím not sure theyíd cope if they were fans of Bremont, CWrd, Tag etc when theyíd have to put up with real criticism, usually from Rolex fan boys!

    This is a forum for watches of all types, and I donít mind negative opinions of my watches, so long as they can be justified. Rolex fans donít do themselves any favours though, the standard response to anyone posting something negative about the brand is that theyíre just a jealous wannabe that canít afford to play the game and have no horological knowledge. Simply not true, some people just do not buy into the hype, some people donít like the designs, some people like their watches to be more individual, and some people have been there, done it and moved on to makers that give them more joy. It doesnít mean that theyíre not allowed to have an opinion. It just seems sometimes like the biggest Rolex fans are almost offended that everyone else doesnít share their opinion.

    This thread kind of shows it. A few photos of a reception area that looks exactly like any of hundreds of other reception areas in London and, because a few people didnít post saying how it was the best reception area theyíve ever seen, and because someone dared to post a joke picture, the fan boys are up in arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danstone View Post
    Seems to me that the Rolex fans are an overly sensitive bunch who canít accept any criticism of their beloved brand or any of the watches they produce. Thankfully Rolex have their full attention, Iím not sure theyíd cope if they were fans of Bremont, CWrd, Tag etc when theyíd have to put up with real criticism, usually from Rolex fan boys!

    This is a forum for watches of all types, and I donít mind negative opinions of my watches, so long as they can be justified. Rolex fans donít do themselves any favours though, the standard response to anyone posting something negative about the brand is that theyíre just a jealous wannabe that canít afford to play the game and have no horological knowledge. Simply not true, some people just do not buy into the hype, some people donít like the designs, some people like their watches to be more individual, and some people have been there, done it and moved on to makers that give them more joy. It doesnít mean that theyíre not allowed to have an opinion. It just seems sometimes like the biggest Rolex fans are almost offended that everyone else doesnít share their opinion.

    This thread kind of shows it. A few photos of a reception area that looks exactly like any of hundreds of other reception areas in London and, because a few people didnít post saying how it was the best reception area theyíve ever seen, and because someone dared to post a joke picture, the fan boys are up in arms.
    Actually I think it seems more like people like you are offended that others might like Rolex and have to put forward reasons to justify not liking them.

    ďsome people just do not buy into the hype, some people donít like the designs, some people like their watches to be more individual, and some people have been there, done it and moved on to makers that give them more joy.Ē


    Well I donít buy into the hype of many other brands. Like Bremont for example.
    And I do like some of the Rolex designs.
    And yes Iíve been there and done it and moved on to makers that give me more joy. One of which is Rolex.
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    Christ you'd argue with your own shadow, lighten up for goodness sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Christ you'd argue with your shadow, lighten up for goodness sake.
    Ha ha. Just watch talk nothing personal.
    The new Sub is great btw, forget all the hype itís just a great watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Ha ha. Just watch talk nothing personal.
    The new Sub is great btw, forget all the hype itís just a great watch.
    Glad to hear it, life is short and we should take our pleasures where we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Actually I think it seems more like people like you are offended that others might like Rolex and have to put forward reasons to justify not liking them.

    “some people just do not buy into the hype, some people don’t like the designs, some people like their watches to be more individual, and some people have been there, done it and moved on to makers that give them more joy.”


    Well I don’t buy into the hype of many other brands. Like Bremont for example.
    And I do like some of the Rolex designs.
    And yes I’ve been there and done it and moved on to makers that give me more joy. One of which is Rolex.
    Let it be. It was a rather lame post without understanding the history or the context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    The market has changed, not for the better. But, thats what markets do...change. As far as I can see, the best move is to buy the wat h you most enjoy, and then just wear it. Forget all the nonsense about scratches, values, idiotic nicknames. Just enjoy your watch. And donít worry what others think. Itís not their watch.

    I agree, and of all the associated guff it's the puerile nicknames that amuse/nauseate me in equal measure. There was none of it in 1979 when I bought my first Rolex, or in 1984 when I bought the Datejust I still wear. However since joining the forum I've come to appreciate and own other makes as well. If I had unlimited funds I wouldn't buy a modern Rolex, there's much more interesting stuff out there, and that realisation comes from years of reading and education both here and elsewhere.

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    Many folk are critical of Rolex saying that it’s all marketing hype etc - however in terms of producing a quality product I will say that in 25 years of passionate watch enthusiasm and collecting I have never once had to take a Rolex back to be fixed/ serviced under warranty..... every single Rolex has proved bombproof mechanically.
    I have purchased a couple of Omega’s in more recent times both of which have been sent back under warranty to be fixed. I have a Rio Olympic Speedmaster going back this week- I bought it in 2017 and it’s already completely packed up working- I’m 100% confident a new Rolex would not break in only 3 years ......some Rolex go decades without even a service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    I agree, and of all the associated guff it's the puerile nicknames that amuse/nauseate me in equal measure. There was none of it in 1979 when I bought my first Rolex, or in 1984 when I bought the Datejust I still wear. However since joining the forum I've come to appreciate and own other makes as well. If I had unlimited funds I wouldn't buy a modern Rolex, there's much more interesting stuff out there, and that realisation comes from years of reading and education both here and elsewhere.
    Certainly there is a lot of interesting stuff out there. Not necessarily more for me. I enjoy a vast diversity of watches from Steeldive to Patek. Rolex is a small part of it. There are some aspects of Rolex followers that grate but that doesnít diminish the pleasure I derive from Rolex watches not does it turn me off the brand. Rolex SD/Sub is the most iconic dive watch design/aesthetic for me but is not the only one. I enjoy Omega and Blancpain and evening some of the Seiko/GS divers. I think the push back from Rolex fans comes from the irritating behaviour of a few of the posters who feel obliged to mock or jeer at anything Rolex and their participation in WT is often limited to their snide comments on Rolex threads almost to the exclusion of everything else. Their is no substantial contribution elsewhere in WT from them. Anybody and everybody is within their rights not to like Rolex or even hate them but the constant need to belittle Rolex is somewhat irritating and also to an extent revealing.

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    Good to hear you can still just walk in.

    Will pop in next time Iím in London

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    I enjoy a vast diversity of watches from Steeldive to Patek. Rolex is a small part of it.
    Lucky you; we all remember the ostentatious ‘watch drawer’ photo, but for many, buying *one* Rolex in their lifetime with their honestly and hard earned money would be an enviable dream, and when that becomes a closed club, frustrations ensue. You’d hear none of it if they were freely available.

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    What I donít get is the need for Rolex (or other) fanboys to argue the corner for their brand. If you like them all well and good. If others donít think theyíre the greatest does it matter?

    Rather like sports fans of course but less understandable for things we own.

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    What I don’t get is the need for Rolex (or other) fanboys to argue the corner for their brand. If you like them all well and good. If others don’t think they’re the greatest does it matter?

    Rather like sports fans of course but less understandable for things we own.
    Again it is not about not liking’ Rolex. It is about some whose focus and primary purpose of participating on WT is crapping on Rolex threads. There are several watches/brands/models I am not a fan of but I don’t go around criticising them every time they are mentioned or making some sad, pathetic, lame snarky comments about those who like or own them.
    Largely silent except for coming out of their hopes when a Rolex thread is on the horizon

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    https://youtu.be/RvLbxvwZ1eg

    This - kinda cheesy.
    what new hell is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    https://youtu.be/RvLbxvwZ1eg

    This - kinda cheesy.
    There really are no words, what on Earth is that haha, who wants to watch someones fat hairy arm wave about with a watch on haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwest76 View Post
    what new hell is this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    There really are no words, what on Earth is that haha, who wants to watch someones fat hairy arm wave about with a watch on haha

    This is what people post on Rolex groups, to the adulation of all (well - almost all).

    They even do it in dealers, while trying on watches. The salespeople must be muttering under their breath.

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    Time to get over Rolex being popular I think. Itís a bit like a sport, sometimes one team dominates for a while. When Mercedes and Hamilton win every race you could say itís a bit predictable but thatís the nature of the game. A while ago it was Omega and IWC and some others who caught the zeitgeist, currently there are some interesting microbrands emerging, while some other brands are becoming super premium. Itís in a constant state of flux. Without doubt though Rolex have become incredibly dominant and won the luxury brand battle, or at least the recognition battle, and thereís no point in fighting it or being surprised or upset when thereís a thread about them. In time something else will happen, and until then if you find something else more interesting then start a thread about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooshabak View Post
    There really are no words, what on Earth is that haha, who wants to watch someones fat hairy arm wave about with a watch on haha

    To be fair, I think the average non-watch-person would think the same of a picture of a watch on a fat hairy arm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    This is what people post on Rolex groups, to the adulation of all (well - almost all).

    They even do it in dealers, while trying on watches. The salespeople must be muttering under their breath.
    Made me laugh a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    As far as I'm aware there are dedicated Rolex forums where the 'chosen ones' can share photos of wrist shots in AD's far and wide, band together to discuss Rolex waiting lists and how boo-hoo awful it is not to have the stickers left on, where the hardened aficionado can buy a service coffin or try to blag a bezel protector for the Submariner that never leaves their safe.


    The chosen ones post outside Rolex forums because they are masochists in search for some righteous reality check.
    New Rolex adage: The customer is always wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    The chosen ones post outside Rolex forums because they are masochists in search for some righteous reality check.
    Oh man, 30,000 plus posts and you are still stuck in this?:-)

    You are right. Being a Rolex fan and posting here does suggest masochistic tendencies but it is fun to take these idiots on.

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    Interesting....

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    Good to know they are open again - I think I will now take up their Operations Managers offer to be shown around the premises, put on hold last time I stopped by to pick up a serviced piece.

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