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    Transmitting WiFi to outbuildings

    As written here before: we're about to move to another house. One of the perks is the 'mahoosive' workshop where I'll be spending a lot of time, I'm sure. (Heated, water, power). One thing that lacks is a cable to the house for internet etc. I suppose that there are solutions for that. I remember seeing a solution once: with a sender and an antenna as receiver.

    Any experience, do's and don'ts?

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    If it’s powered you could use power line adapters. The performance would depend on the distance and the quality of your electrics.


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    Depending how far it is from the house, you might get away with those wifi discs.
    We've got some deco m5's in our house and my office is 10m away from the house and it picks up the WiFi signal.

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    I would suggest looking in to creating a Mesh Network, it will be more efficient than using extenders for example. Plenty of plug and play products out there to do this with multiple configurations that you can add to if required, Google make a good one for example but many other makers of trusted products are available.

    ETA.. Plug and play Mesh Networks are often found discounted in the Black Friday sales on amazon if you can wait that long?
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    I forgot to mention: the outbuildings are pretty far apart: at least 50m distance.

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    I’ve tried all sorts and eventually I have run a wire.

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    Unify have a 'pitch & catch' setup for WiFi so long as you have clear line of sight. I only know this because my friend used it get WiFi in his garage, but I don't know the specifics.

    Worth a look though!

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    Hi,
    50 Mtrs will be a bit too far I think for mesh but you could try with a deco M5 making sure that one was placed as close as possible in the house to the outbuildings. I would just bury a cat5 cable between the house and hard wire 2 deco's if I was doing it.

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    I, like leo1790, have the Deco M5 Mesh system. It reaches our garden room 25m away, I then put a M5 in there and get a great signal circa 80mb compared to 200mb in the house.

    I think the M9 uses poweline technology alongside mesh so may be even better.

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    At that distance you might be better with a point to point link between the buildings or a direct cable.

    I suspect that domestic mesh systems might not have the power to get through the old stone walls and the distance.
    The home plug solution might work but again I suspect the distance and being different circuits and ops different consumer units might make the service sub par.

    If it were me I’d try the home plug extender option if I had the option to return them if they don’t work, if not if look at point to point via a cable of point to point WiFi.


    Solwisesteve of this parish has a company who operates in this space might be worth a pm. Have a look at this option


    https://www.solwise.co.uk/solution-b...lding-wifi.htm

    Also unifi have options in this space so perhaps your son who is gifted in the IT space could look at the point to point WiFi options
    https://www.ui.com/products/#default

    hth

    Edit:
    Looks like this might be a solution from unifi.
    https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/produ...CABEgLSqPD_BwE
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    Speaking as someone with a vested interest.... let me first of all say, if possible, run a lan cable. You cannot beat a proper lan cable for speed/reliability. I've just done a similar thing running a network cable and mains to a remote shed at the bottom of the garden (about 30m). I spent a saturday morning digging a trench down the edge of the garden and using 32mm waste pipe with glued connections. Outdoor grade cat5e and mains cable and it runs perfectly fine running in the same duct. I think it came to about a hundred quid for the waste pipe and cable.

    Next option is a point-to-point wifi link. So outdoor units at both ends aimed at each other. At the house end lan cable round the outside of the house and through the wall to connect to the router. at the remote end the outdoor unit has the lan cable going inside to an indoor wifi access point (or wifi router with router disabled). You then have lan ports and wifi in the remote shed.

    Your distance is quite short so you don't need anything fancy.... talking about c. £200. I can do some trade prices if you pm me but it will still work out about twice the price than a 'proper' lan cable... you save on some digging though ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thieuster View Post
    As written here before: we're about to move to another house. One of the perks is the 'mahoosive' workshop where I'll be spending a lot of time, I'm sure. (Heated, water, power). One thing that lacks is a cable to the house for internet etc. I suppose that there are solutions for that. I remember seeing a solution once: with a sender and an antenna as receiver.

    Any experience, do's and don'ts?

    Menno
    I have a garden office which I capture wifi in using discs plugged into mains. Never let me down and is about 10-15 metres from house. I have also put a disc upstairs facing outwards at window (don’t know if these things are directional) so bouncing signal from hub to disc to office disc.

    Good luck and enjoy your new home and freedom

    Jim

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    If possible run a cable. Will be 100x better in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solwisesteve View Post
    Speaking as someone with a vested interest.... let me first of all say, if possible, run a lan cable. You cannot beat a proper lan cable for speed/reliability. I've just done a similar thing running a network cable and mains to a remote shed at the bottom of the garden (about 30m). I spent a saturday morning digging a trench down the edge of the garden and using 32mm waste pipe with glued connections. Outdoor grade cat5e and mains cable and it runs perfectly fine running in the same duct. I think it came to about a hundred quid for the waste pipe and cable.
    As above - if you have power to the outbuildings already, you can be less exacting in running the Cat5/6 cable. I would run two lengths of cable, (as it is cheap enough) to have one as spare. Run the cable in polythene (hard type) water pipe (it is flexible, and more resilient than hard drain pipe, I think) - and bury to a depth of around 8” (one of the beauties of not running mains cable). By all means run some warning tape in the trench before back-filling.

    Simply fit a gigabit switch at the far end, and connect a cheap WAP there, and whatever else you want out there (smart TV etc).

    Otherwise - as Steve says, a more specialised WiFi bridge to the outbuildings.

    I’ve not used a power line adaptor for a few years now, but that might be a pretty good solution too. Be good if you could try one before shelling out, though.

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    Run a cable - a bit more hassle at the start but less in long-term.

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    I work for an ISP

    Use a cable connection

    End of

    Or you could have your own mini WiFi network via 4g if you have power - bit of fun abd v cheap to do and portable for holidays if using a small mifi


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    A cable it will be!

    Thanks for the info and tips! What a great forum this is!!!

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    Cat5e or Cat6 Steel Wire Armoured (SWA), shouldn't break the bank.
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