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    Abscess....:(

    Currently in hospital waiting to have one drained/cut out of the groin area. I'm hoping it's not as bad as the one I had last year in the same sort of area.

    Never had one before last year. While I was in waiting for the op a chap came in next to me with a broken arm. I told him what I had and he proceeded to tell me he had one by his anus which was crazy painful. I didn't think mine was too bad until after the op and they began to 'pack' the hole. I then realized what he meant. My body has never shook so much in pain before in that minute of packing the hole, to which the nurse says 'right, have a breather, were half way there .

    Another 2 weeks of packing proceeded after that. This one is closer to the groin.

    Anyone else had the pleasure?

    Oh also I came in at 8am. Have not eaten since 7pm last night. Just been told the surgery will be done tomorrow now so you can eat.... Great!... Here is 4 slices of semi buttered toast.

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    A few decades ago I had a crewman who had one near the base of the spine, caused by an ingrowing hair. I assume it's the same thing. The hole was the size of a golf ball apparently. He couldn't sit down and the box body on the truck we were working in wasn't high enough for him to stand straight in. He looked really miserable with it.

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    Yes my last one was caused by in growing hair. Not sure this one is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprite1275 View Post
    While I was in waiting for the op a chap came in next to me with a broken arm. I told him what I had and he proceeded to tell me he had one by his anus which was crazy painful. .
    I thought this was going to be the old "Abcess makes the fart go Honda" gag.

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    Never had an abscess but at the age of 18 the thumb on my right hand became infected (cut it on a fence) and when they operated they left the wound open and packed it with gauze. Top tip: when they pull out the gauze ensure you have a local anaesthetic! The first time they started to change the gauze and were pulling out the old one I was, quite literally, screaming in agony. After I came around from feinting due to the pain the doctor asked was it really that painful after the anaesthetic; 'what anaesthetic' was my reply! The doctor and a nurse then proceeded to have a heated conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skier View Post
    Never had an abscess but at the age of 18 the thumb on my right hand became infected (cut it on a fence) and when they operated they left the wound open and packed it with gauze. Top tip: when they pull out the gauze ensure you have a local anaesthetic! The first time they started to change the gauze and were pulling out the old one I was, quite literally, screaming in agony. After I came around from feinting due to the pain the doctor asked was it really that painful after the anaesthetic; 'what anaesthetic' was my reply! The doctor and a nurse then proceeded to have a heated conversation.
    Ouch. I didn't have any local when they done my packing. There were quite a few expletives when she pulled out the packing. It was like a magician pulling bunting out of a hat.

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    Had a similar thing on my neck years back. Had to have it packed a few times so it heals from the inside out. Not a pleasant experience so I feel for you.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    What is it packed with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmATeaf View Post
    What is it packed with?
    In my case a waxy gauze.

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    Sympathise completely. I have hidradenitis suppurativa, which means every 3-5 years I get a number of painful abscesses all at once. Not pleasant at all.

    Hope you recover quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmATeaf View Post
    What is it packed with?
    Just a long thin dressing which they keep pushing into the hole with tweezers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nudlar View Post
    Sympathise completely. I have hidradenitis suppurativa, which means every 3-5 years I get a number of painful abscesses all at once. Not pleasant at all.

    Hope you recover quickly.
    Jeez mate that's pretty awful. Sorry to hear.

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    Also called Pilonidal Cyst/Abscess/Sinus

    More common on 'hairy' males, but also becoming common on females who wear thongs, where the rubbing can turn a hair easily.

    Any abscess, especially a large/longstanding one - can affect your immune system and should be treated sooner rather than later (esp now)

    I think the pain disappears for the most part when the sinus relieves the pressure?

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    An old surgical adage: if there is puss about, let it out!

    Hope you feel better soon OP.

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    Cheers. I'm still waiting at the moment.

    Didn't realise it could effect immune sysytem, I'm also not that hairy although in future I might see if the Mrs has some wax strips if that's the main cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    Also called Pilonidal Cyst/Abscess/Sinus

    More common on 'hairy' males, but also becoming common on females who wear thongs, where the rubbing can turn a hair easily.

    Any abscess, especially a large/longstanding one - can affect your immune system and should be treated sooner rather than later (esp now)
    To add to the good advice above: it is vital not to neglect this, as it can (occasionally) get even worse:
    In the mid 80s I worked as an ODA in hospital operating theatres. Pilonidal sinuses are indeed very common in hairy blokes who sit on their arses a lot, and we used to cut a lot out under GA.
    We'd had a young lad on the wards for a few days (different times!) as he'd been delayed in favour of more urgent cases. The minute he was wheeled in to the anaesthetic room we knew this was bad, as we could smell him: not the cheesy dead-fish smell of a rampantly pus-y infection, this was gas-leak-cadaver, which means only one thing - gas gangrene.
    It's not common, but it didn't disappear with trench warfare either, and infections around the ring area are likeliest. Because he was young, fit and (originally) had a trivial condition, he'd not been monitored and nursed properly - shocking, but understandable in the context of more-demanding workloads.
    The consultant cancelled the rest of the list (time, x-infection risk, the overwhelming stench...), and we ended-up cutting this poor sod's entire perineum out, parts of his ballbag, a huge slice of both buttocks including muscle tissue, and then sluicing the whole area out with hydrogen peroxide.
    Once he'd recovered from the anaesthetic, he was blue-lighted to a specialist burns/plastics unit, and will have been in and out of there for a year or two as they tried to rebuild something vaguely resembling a normal arse. It would have been pretty vague, too...

    I'll never forget the smell - no point breathing through your mouth because you can taste it.

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    Hope all proceeds well Sprite.

    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    To add to the good advice above: it is vital not to neglect this, as it can (occasionally) get even worse:
    In the mid 80s I worked as an ODA in hospital operating theatres. Pilonidal sinuses are indeed very common in hairy blokes who sit on their arses a lot, and we used to cut a lot out under GA.
    We'd had a young lad on the wards for a few days (different times!) as he'd been delayed in favour of more urgent cases. The minute he was wheeled in to the anaesthetic room we knew this was bad, as we could smell him: not the cheesy dead-fish smell of a rampantly pus-y infection, this was gas-leak-cadaver, which means only one thing - gas gangrene.
    It's not common, but it didn't disappear with trench warfare either, and infections around the ring area are likeliest. Because he was young, fit and (originally) had a trivial condition, he'd not been monitored and nursed properly - shocking, but understandable in the context of more-demanding workloads.
    The consultant cancelled the rest of the list (time, x-infection risk, the overwhelming stench...), and we ended-up cutting this poor sod's entire perineum out, parts of his ballbag, a huge slice of both buttocks including muscle tissue, and then sluicing the whole area out with hydrogen peroxide.
    Once he'd recovered from the anaesthetic, he was blue-lighted to a specialist burns/plastics unit, and will have been in and out of there for a year or two as they tried to rebuild something vaguely resembling a normal arse. It would have been pretty vague, too...

    I'll never forget the smell - no point breathing through your mouth because you can taste it.
    I only have expletives to say to this, and I've rarely read anything else that has made me feel this queezy!

    Utterly, utterly horrendous for that poor bloke.
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    Awful. A (hairy) mate of mine had one of these near his arsehole and it sounded absolutely miserable for him.

    OP very best wishes, I’m sure they’ll sort you out well.

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    Yes I'm sure they will. Although now hoping sooner rather than later.

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    Feel for you, I had to clean and pack my wife's at the base of her spine a few years back. She never complained, but couldn't believe it wasn't awful for her pain wise.

    She was off for a week or so as could only lie on her front & not sit, miserable time for her alone all day like that.

    It returned & they cut so much more out with surgery & I was no longer capable of cleaning & packing skill wise.

    Mend well, sir, feel for you.

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    I had one about 6 years ago. Started as a small lump in the crease of my right leg / groin and just kept growing. I monitored it myself over a few days as it grew slightly and then had one terrible night where I woke up shaking uncontrollably. I got up so as not to wake the missus and sat on the sofa for 4 or 5 hours until the shaking sibsided. Next day I managed to get an emergency appointment at the doctors, went in and showed him the area, he called an ambulance and got me straight in for surgery. Apparently the cist / abcess had burst inside me and necrosis had already started in a ring about 6 inches in circumference of the lump.
    After they cut it all out, I had a wound and hole in my groin that was the size of my clenched fist. They packed it with about 5m of lint that was impregnated with seashell. That needed changing everyday as the wound healed from the inside out. It was SO painful having it unpacked and repacked that I lived on Oramorph (liquid morphine) for the first few days until one of the nurses said they could use a gel to pack instead! The gel is squeezed in and dissolves gradually over 24 hours so doesn't need to be dragged out before the wound is repacked - THAT WAS A GAME CHANGER.
    7 weeks later, I could walk again and have just a scar as a reminder.

    I would absolutely recommend you ask for the gel to pack the wound, it saved me weeks of agony.

    Good luck, Si.

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    I’ve had a few , the first one being the worst after misdiagnosis from the doctor .
    Right on the old sheriffs badge , caused by a ingrown hair .
    No hospital, the nurse at the doctors surgery cut it open & the pain was unreal , like boiling water had been poured on me , then had the pleasure of having a wick inserted into the cut that had to be replaced every day at the walk in centre ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by spanner monkey View Post
    I’ve had a few , the first one being the worst after misdiagnosis from the doctor .
    Right on the old sheriffs badge , caused by a ingrown hair .
    No hospital, the nurse at the doctors surgery cut it open & the pain was unreal , like boiling water had been poured on me , then had the pleasure of having a wick inserted into the cut that had to be replaced every day at the walk in centre ........
    That must have been horrible!

    Poor nurse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    That must have been horrible!

    Poor nurse!
    Ha ha , she seemed to enjoy it a little too much .

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    Quote Originally Posted by raringtogo View Post
    I had one about 6 years ago. Started as a small lump in the crease of my right leg / groin and just kept growing. I monitored it myself over a few days as it grew slightly and then had one terrible night where I woke up shaking uncontrollably. I got up so as not to wake the missus and sat on the sofa for 4 or 5 hours until the shaking sibsided. Next day I managed to get an emergency appointment at the doctors, went in and showed him the area, he called an ambulance and got me straight in for surgery. Apparently the cist / abcess had burst inside me and necrosis had already started in a ring about 6 inches in circumference of the lump.
    After they cut it all out, I had a wound and hole in my groin that was the size of my clenched fist. They packed it with about 5m of lint that was impregnated with seashell. That needed changing everyday as the wound healed from the inside out. It was SO painful having it unpacked and repacked that I lived on Oramorph (liquid morphine) for the first few days until one of the nurses said they could use a gel to pack instead! The gel is squeezed in and dissolves gradually over 24 hours so doesn't need to be dragged out before the wound is repacked - THAT WAS A GAME CHANGER.
    7 weeks later, I could walk again and have just a scar as a reminder.

    I would absolutely recommend you ask for the gel to pack the wound, it saved me weeks of agony.

    Good luck, Si.

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    Yes heard about this gel. Will ask about it. Just come out now and it's pretty saw. Got a thick lip as well, amethyst must of knocked me out the old way.

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    I had one an inch, or so above my anus. It was 1992, and after twelve years of Tory under investment in the health service I ended up waiting 18 months for the operation. I was in pain the entire time. Because of the delay they ended up cutting so much out of me they couldn’t stitch it up and had to pack it daily for six months. When I was discharged a district nurse would turn up every day and I’d lie on the bed, spread my cheeks and she’d start cleaning and packing (With some seaweed derived substance). Being on the ass it got infected a few times too. It was a rather unpleasant experience TBH.

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    OK. I feel ill now so you can all stop!

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    Hmmmm. Someone has to say it.

    This thread is useless without pictures.

    ???

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    Noooooooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertex View Post
    Hmmmm. Someone has to say it.

    This thread is useless without pictures.

    ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasputin View Post
    I had one an inch, or so above my anus. It was 1992, and after twelve years of Tory under investment in the health service I ended up waiting 18 months for the operation. I was in pain the entire time. Because of the delay they ended up cutting so much out of me they couldn’t stitch it up and had to pack it daily for six months. When I was discharged a district nurse would turn up every day and I’d lie on the bed, spread my cheeks and she’d start cleaning and packing (With some seaweed derived substance). Being on the ass it got infected a few times too. It was a rather unpleasant experience TBH.

    The moral of course - is.................

    "A stitch in time - saves nine"

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    I have to say I was totally grossed out but at the same time laughing at some of the descriptions.
    I hope I never have to suffer this pictures would be nice tho
    Quote Originally Posted by vertex View Post
    Hmmmm. Someone has to say it.

    This thread is useless without pictures.

    ???

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    All the best OP ...Pilonidal sinus are no fun I have flare ups if i drive long distances with pressure on coccyx also beware jeans with thick centre stich if that makes sense...apparently it’s common in long distance lorry drivers heat build up sweat etc...

    My GP is brilliant and allows me to keep a back up pack of penicillin to catch it in time if it gets agressive....

    I chickened out of the operation when i saw some pics online opting to manage it ....so far so good....

    That case of the poor young lad wow....just shows you need to act quickly and for many of us put pride aside and not ignore stuff...

    I wont post pictures

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    I didn't even know about them until I had it last year. Luckily after packing it today it's not as deep as the last one. Nurse tried to fob me off with paracetamol before packing. I said no chance but the nurse said well that's what the doc has prescribed. I said you better go back to the doc.

    Suddenly she comes back with paracetamol, codine and a shot of morphine.

    Really not sure why some folk want to see a pic of a hole in my pet hedgehog. He's very shy.

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    I frequent a fair few different forums and this topic is one that always appears. Seems to be super common and I myself have been a long time sufferer.

    I've had mine since I was 17 (34 now) and over the years I've become aware of the warning signs that precede a flair up. I started with 1 and I now have 3 little holes above my arse crack and above my arse looks like someone's removed the staples out of an exercise book.

    I manage mine and have so far avoided the need for surgery and medication. Best advice I ever got from my gp was to leave them well alone and keep the area clean. Regular salt baths if I feel the twinge along with massaging the area above the holes helps me.

    It's bizarre but if I apply pressure to mine I feel the pain in my mid back and not the area I'm touching if that makes sense.

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    This is probably massively stupid but if anyone has repeats of this would you not consider IPL to get rid of the hair? Without that help or work?

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    IPL is just another TLA to me.

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    Laser hair removal

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    My mate had one in his groin recently, he delighted us with daily photos of what I can only describe as a angry vagina alongside his ballbag that gradually got smaller as the weeks went on.
    Cheers..
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    In the area I grew up, it was always put about that if you suffered from a fissure or abscess it was because you'd (ahem) emptied your bowels outdoors & wiped your bahookie with a commonly-available, handy dock leaf.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumex_obtusifolius

    'Papillose': a nice word that gives you a sore anus.
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