I live halfway in-between two main dealers from the same group. Both are, to my mind, equally good in customer service etc. My question is: If I want to buy a new car (no part ex.) am I likely to get offered virtually the same deal from both of them as they both are in the same group; or, are they gong to be acting independently and would offer a deal according to their own sales performance and targets? Also, is there any truth in rumours of an optimum to buy in a month when they are trying to hit targets; or is this an urban myth? Thanks.
At the moment it all depends on the brand and their direction. Mercedes are standardising their offers, interest rates, discounts and pay structures to maintain transparency so if a dealer has a vehicle you want it *should* be the same price/dealOriginally Posted by ALindsay
What are you looking at?
Zeinab up in Grimsby will be finished then. She's famous for selling Mercedes at 1% less than the total front and back end margin. Used to be the cheapest place in the UK to buy a Mercedes, not sure if it still is.
BM 3 touring
BMW have rolled out a digital platform so should be easy to purchase and get it delivered, assuming it’s a new car, and find the best deal.
https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/topics/buyi...r-locator.html
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Get some prices then try carwow or the equivalent as to Mercedes always found Mercedes Benz Southwest in Exeter had great pricing.
I FEEL LIKE I'M DIAGONALLY PARKED IN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE
use Car Wow, print off the best deal you get offered and take it to local dealer and ask them to match it, they will.
Wouldn't bother if you're after a BMW. Barely any BMW dealers are on there. Don't think there are many BMW dealers in coast2coastcars either.
OP you may get two different prices even within the same group but if you do it will come down to where each dealership is for the month/quarter and how quickly you want the car. Best deal is always on stock cars and not forward orders.
L&L Mercedes in Bishops Stortford are very good, Jardine Mercedes down the road in Chelmsford are a disaster, OP i think the answer is that you may have to waste some time and ask both, or saving that try car wow first, so you already know the answer
If you want a BMW speak to Tony Lewis at Berry BMW in Chiswick, you wont get a better deal anywhere else and he's a top bloke to deal with, had 3 cars off him all at superb prices.
Out of interest, I did a Carwow query on this. Only one reply so far:
BMW 3 Series Touring
320i Step Auto M Sport, Automatic, Petrol
Total RRP £38,025
Barretts BMW Canterbury :
carwow PCP offer
£34,147
You save
£3,877 (10.2%)
It's all theatre. All the pricing for the whole of the UK is pre-programmed in already and then they add on £360 Inc vat which is their fee. This in theory you pay but is collected from the dealer.
You are sent the first offer immediately and it will be from your closest dealer as that's the one you are most likely to go and buy from. Over the next 24 hours the other 4 drip feed into your inbox but it's all automated.
The other four offers will contain the cheapest and the most expensive. If you're keen you'll ask for another offer or two using a different email and post code to see how the offers differ.
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Interesting information. I think the main benefit is that it gives you a solid starting point to negotiate from with your preferred local dealer.
Yes and incredibly useful with a brand like VW as nearly every VW in the UK is on carwow, even Ford and Mercedes. Less useful with a brand like BMW who actively hate carwow and discourage their franchisees from joining. For a deal on a BMW carwow is a bit of a chocolate teapot.
Also from the looks of things they're taking the deposit contribution from BMW UK and adding it onto the dealer discount misrepresenting the carwow saving. They did this a lot of EV gov grants before and got in hot water for it. Should have learned by now.
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They still show the EV grant as part of the saving.
It’s in the small print of every EV offer on there that I’ve looked at.
Yep- I used it for my BMW two years ago. My local dealer eventually matched a quote i’d got from a dealer 100 miles away.
Son bought a Merc using it, local dealer wouldn’t match so he bought from one 150miles away who delivered it for free.
she is how I got mine!
Sorry to gate crash, but I know nothing about cars and am cautiously and nervously thinking of buying a new one soon; first time in many years!
How does she make any money if she sells at 1% less than margin? I’m not sure I understand.
Thanks
I have no idea. When I was in that circle front and back end margin was 7% each way on an A Class and she had them for 15% off. Can only imagine she was hoping and praying to hit some other incentive. The other Mercedes dealers were kicking up a fuss and trying to get Zeinab taken off carwow because they were being accused of lying when they told customers they couldn't price match 15% as they didn't have 15% in the car and as they're car dealers the customers just said "yeah yeah, course you can't"
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Why restrict this to the two nearest dealers? email a few with your requirements and see what offers turn up, I like a day out to pick up a new car.
Making money from sales target achievement bonus payment?
Last edited by Pitfitter; 16th October 2020 at 18:21.
Carwow is a good place to start.
I then think an extra negotiation once you found a good garage.
I've bought two GLC 43s this way - one from Skipton and one from Portsmouth. It was well worth travelling for the level of discount achieved.
I also used CarWow and got a cracking deal in December two years ago, I think they were trying to hit some sort of year end target so worth a shot.
Get a quote now and if you can hold off try again the start and middle of December and see if there is a better discount to be had.
I would buy nearly new 8 months old 5k miles find a spec you want, loads about 10 grand cheaper
Cars from Europe might cost a bit more next year:
As the clock ticks away its final seconds is their any chance of a last second change? Well, under Aussie rules a mid-range BMW 3 series just went up FOUR GRAND today because of Michel Barnier. You going to rush out and buy one? No me neither. Same goes for Audi, Citroen, VW, and Mercedes. They'll all struggle to sell another car here under this regime .... so maybe Barnier could yet face a backlash.
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100%
Wouldnt buy a new one at all
They can’t shift them, so the used ones are even better value
Use the w approved network and look nationally
They’ll bring you the car if you want it from wherever
I’m in the “golden triangle” of three Bmw dealers - all the same dealerships - but the difference in people is astonishing
Had my third car from BMW Tamworth
Pm me if you’d like the salesman’s details - he deals with used cars
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