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    I don't suppose there's any chance you might not use fake aged lume? Off-white would be perfect.

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    White hands on the black dial version if possible Eddie. Looks much better.

    Both versions are very tempting.

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    Manual wind is great, love that. And white hands indeed, on the blue version.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I did consider that but then I couldn't have the planned faraday cage.

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    With the latest renderings showing a crystal backplate is this now out the window or has a workaround now been found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed875 View Post
    With the latest renderings showing a crystal backplate is this now out the window or has a workaround now been found?
    If you want to see the movement, you just remove the movement cover when you swap over to the view back.

    Eddie
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    I agree with the others who mentioned having the black dial with white hands.

    The cream dial with blue looks to be a winner.

    Great work Eddie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    If you want to see the movement, you just remove the movement cover when you swap over to the view back.

    Eddie
    Many thanks for the clarification, very much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinCRC View Post
    I don't suppose there's any chance you might not use fake aged lume? Off-white would be perfect.

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    Its a mil vintage recreation, so why would it not have vintage creamy lume. Fake is a very strong word and rather insulting to Eddie imo.

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    Revision 4.



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    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Revision 4.



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    No see through caseback now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    No see through caseback now?


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    There will be, it's just not on the drawing.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Revision 4.

    ...image...

    Eddie
    I think the white works well against the black dial, but I am not keen on the 'vintage lume'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    There will be, it's just not on the drawing.

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    Excellent - this has the potential to be your best watch yet!


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    Eddie I really like both versions, however not sure about the vintage lume.

    Have you considered a non-vintage lume variant?

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    To go against the grain I like the aged lume and I think it suits the watch perfectly.
    I am looking forward to this. It will go nicely with my PRS5.

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    The watches Iíve had and seen with vintage lume havenít unfortunately had the best lume. Is this a thing or is it possible to have vintage lume which is bright/eligible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Chilli View Post
    The watches Iíve had and seen with vintage lume havenít unfortunately had the best lume. Is this a thing or is it possible to have vintage lume which is bright/eligible?
    The Superluminova Old Radium on my Stowa is really bright, maybe not dive watch bright, but still very good. Like all lume, it depends how it is applied.

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    Sign me up. Nailed it with revision 4


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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Revision 4.



    Eddie
    That is superb.

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    I don't think I'll be able to hide this purchase from the other half. I don't have any watches that look similar :P.

    Looks great Eddie. Any chance of a sexy slightly domed crytal?

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    subdials

    I can't tell, but it looks in the drawings that the subdials will be slightly recessed into the main dial. If so, that would be amazing. Also, if I might be so bold, might I suggest snail tracks (or record grooves or whatever the concentric grooves are called) on the subdials?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrudd View Post
    The Superluminova Old Radium on my Stowa is really bright, maybe not dive watch bright, but still very good. Like all lume, it depends how it is applied.
    Ah thanks, thatís good to know. I must have just been unlucky. For what itís worth I quite like the vintage lume look, especially when like this the lume plots arenít massive.

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    That last revision looks the business. For those worried about the lume colour, take a look at the PRS-82: black dial, white hands, aged looking lume. No problems with that glowing through the night.
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    Isn't it time to leave that pink 'fauxtina' behind and start a new trend? ;) Personally, I'd much prefer it cream-coloured, for example. Great designs, by the way.

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    I think v4 looks superb, but I just want to make one more point, as it has developed from the "no rad" hand design to the syringe design.
    The chrono-second counterpoise for the syringe design hands is, I think, more tradtionally the thin stem with a teardrop-shaped end design.
    It is only really the no-rad hands that have the slightly reverse-tapered counterpoise, and also the later 2 pusher versions.
    I am not fussed either way, but just wanted to point out that the older-style counterpoise may be in better keeping with the currrent design.
    Dave

    ps - I like the vintage lume, this is a very vintage design, and having a contrast colour to the lume seems appropriate.

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    Very nice. I like the vintage lume as well.

    Any ballpark figure of price for this?

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    Rev 4 is spot on, keep the lume as pictured, suits the watch design perfectly.

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    I thought I'd post some comments about my experience with this movement. I recently acquired a Farer Moritz on eBay, which uses a very similar Sellita movement to this project - specifically, a SW510 M b. It's manual wind, hacking, with running seconds at 9, minute counter at 3, and hour counter at 6. No date, and no phantom date crown position. The one for this Time Factors project is the SW510 M MP b, with the running seconds and minute counter at 3, monopusher, and again no phantom crown position.

    First impressions weren't great, as it was running +21 sec/day, just barely outside the allowable 20 sec/day accuracy for the elabore grade (which is the lowest level for this movement) but I felt this was a bit much. I contacted Farer who told me this would not be covered under warranty, but suggested the movement might have become magnetized as they should have been regulated to +/-6-8 sec/day. Sure enough, my compass needle moved when brought towards the watch, so I picked up both a timegrapher and good quality used demagnetizer. Once they arrived, a quick hit on the latter (and verification with the compass) took it down to +11 sec/day or so, so I opened it up and got it down to around +8 sec/day.

    I then set it to match my radio controlled Casio at noon last Sunday, and wound it fully. At 58 hrs reserve it should have stopped at 10:00 PM last night, but managed to keep trucking until 2:50 AM, nearly a full 63 hours - not bad! I did note that the accuracy had dropped last night to -20 sec/day and amplitude was suffering, so I'll keep an eye on it.

    I'm happy with it now, and wouldn't hesitate to purchase another.

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    Yup one for me please

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    wow

    oh man i gotta plan/save for this one. Looks awesome

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    Wow, indeed! Funny enough I was recently wondering about monopusher options and here we have another great looking Smiths to add to the buying list! Ok, this one and the Caribbean for 2021... and the Navigator if not available sooner... and the Artificer.... and...

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    Adding to the collection...

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    I like the look of this one....following with interest.

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    Joined the forum to say how much I am looking forward to this release!

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    Welcome Matt.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Stupidly missed the PRS5 back in the day. so I think this will have to go on the list. Looks great

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    I was thinking that I'd go for the white dial, since I've long wanted a Lemania HS9 chronograph, but the case on that is different without the asymmetric shape or the recessed pusher notch. Whereas the black dial is a dead ringer for the original so I now reckon that's what I'll be ordering.

    Any idea when these might be available, Eddie?





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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyJack View Post
    I was thinking that I'd go for the white dial, since I've long wanted a Lemania HS9 chronograph, but the case on that is different without the asymmetric shape or the recessed pusher notch. Whereas the black dial is a dead ringer for the original so I now reckon that's what I'll be ordering.

    Any idea when these might be available, Eddie?




    There's actually a white Lemania HS9 monopusher for Royal Australian Navy with an asymmetric case and syringe hands. However it has a slightly different dial layout with no cut-off numbers. If you're interested, I can upload a photo from a book I'm currently reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    I don't think I'll be able to hide this purchase from the other half. I don't have any watches that look similar :P.

    Looks great Eddie. Any chance of a sexy slightly domed crytal?
    Yes, it will be a bombť crystal but not box or double-domed.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinCRC View Post
    I don't suppose there's any chance you might not use fake aged lume? Off-white would be perfect.

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    This. Off-white would look ace.

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    OK, idiot question: what's the difference between revision 3 & 4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev-O View Post
    OK, idiot question: what's the difference between revision 3 & 4?
    The hands on the black dialed version are white rather than polished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirchyGirchy View Post
    The hands on the black dialed version are white rather than polished.
    Pleased with this change; white easier to read, though I prefer standard rather than vintage lum, however I will be happy with whatever is eventually produced, just hope to be successful in the scramble.
    Last edited by Ed875; 29th October 2020 at 20:08.

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    Here's all three of the RAF issued Smiths:

    Mk X (c. 1944) -> GS De Luxe 6B (1954-56) -> "W10" 6B









    I believe there are 11 of the Mk X (9 sub-seconds and 2 centre seconds)







    The GS De Luxe (circa 50 extant examples) comes in the original radium dial




    and later tritium re-dial "(T)"



    both together





    There was also this one (Mk XI Navigator) but it never got accepted and there are (iirc) only three known examples in existence:




    Apologies for the poor pics; what I lack in quality I make up for in quantity.

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev-O View Post
    The GS De Luxe (circa 50 extant examples) comes in the original radium dial




    and later tritium re-dial "(T)"



    both together


    These are gorgeous, not seen them before either. I know that the PRS53 was similar to these (still waiting to get one) but I would love a real smiths reissue.

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    just seem some prices for the Lemania watches on chrono 24... wtf

    there is one which has the asymmetric case but not with syringe hands https://www.chrono24.co.uk/lemania/l...id16161363.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattcurry View Post
    These are gorgeous, not seen them before either. I know that the PRS53 was similar to these (still waiting to get one) but I would love a real smiths reissue.
    I think the PRS-53 was a homage to the Omega 53 FA. That does have something in common with the Smiths GS though: both started life as with radium lume (the Omega TA for "Thin Arrow") and were later re-lumed with tritium (the Omega became the FA or "Fat Arrow" whereas the Smiths gained a circled T and had a different font for the numbers -- e..g "open" 6 and 9). Either way, the ones that escaped reluming are rarer and, imho, nicer.

    https://www.timefactors.com/precistaprs53.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    just seem some prices for the Lemania watches on chrono 24... wtf

    there is one which has the asymmetric case but not with syringe hands https://www.chrono24.co.uk/lemania/l...id16161363.htm
    It's all about rarity, the no-rad Lemania for submarines (like you link to) is the rarest of the lot, that's why it is priced so high.
    The later asymmetric 2-pusher is also rare.
    A run-of-the-mill HS9 can be had for under half that price, and in between the asymmetric single pushers, in a few variations.
    Bear in mind that Lemania were producing chronos for the british forces from the late 1940s all the way to the 1970s.

    Dave

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    Oh yeah i like how this one is taking shape. Drilled lugs, full lume dial, a manual wind movement; looks like this is going to be a must buy for me Cheers!

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    My old Smiths, fwiw. I donít know anything about this piece (although I wish I did), but it still keeps time beautifully.

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