Ok you hive mind geniuses, I’m looking to get into Pour over coffee makers and I know there will be many experts here who can help me understand all the hipster/coffee ‘’fascist’’ nonsense.
I generally use Nespresso for ease and convenience so a complete novice here but I am looking for something better for the weekend. Around a 2-4 cup, paperless filter if possible and, of course, something that looks the business.
So your advice would be very helpful.
Cheers
Last edited by paw3001; 27th September 2020 at 16:22.
Get a V60 and some of the Hario papers. What grinder do you have?
The Chemex arguably has the best looks, but I haven't used one.
V60 with paper filter. The latter because you can pick it up and throw away (in the compost recycling bin) all the ground without endless rinsing etc. The V60 comes in a range of sizes...available on Amazon...and James Hoffman has plenty of advice for you on YouTube.
If you want to go manual pour overs, a V60 for 1 or 2 cups is best. A Chemex for larger volumes of coffee. Use the Chemex papers with the brewer, they are thick and produce a lovely clean cup of coffee.
A good burr grinder is key, so you have freshly ground coffee at home. Wilfa Svart, Baratza Encore and Eureka Mignons are some good not expensive models.
James Hoffman is a knowledgeable coffee chap and I've had excellent results following his V60 recipe.
If you're thinking of a powered pour over, the Sage Precision Brewer is highly recommended.
As is the Technivorm Moccamaster Select.
The key to these two machines is that they heat the water to the correct temperature and have shower heads which mimic the best manual pour over techniques.
EDIT: I forgot to add for manual pour overs, a goose necked kettle (powered or not ) will give you the accuracy needed and won't drown the coffee in the basket.
Last edited by dkpw; 27th September 2020 at 15:38.
Maybe start with a V60 Drip-In Server 02...also available from Amazon and other suppliers?
Edit Stainless steel drip / gooseneck kettles are available on eBay in various sizes from £11 upwards.
Last edited by PickleB; 27th September 2020 at 15:45.
This thread has made me thirsty! :) Just made some.
The Hario scales are useful, they have a timer too but the display is a little slow compared to more modern scales.
The goose neck kettle also makes an excellent plant waterer.
This video has sent me down a deep and expensive rabbit hole today!!Originally Posted by dkpw
I already had some high quality small batch roasts in the kitchen, so I dug out my Porlex grinder and an old V60 that was in the back of a cupboard. Made 3 coffees through the day and 2 of them were the best brews I've ever made.
I've also watched about 10 of James' videos, and ordered a Wilfa Svart grinder. I put my Pact coffee subscription (which admittedly is very good) on hold and signed up for James' company "Square Mile Coffee Roasters" curated subscription to try out, I figure he knows his stuff if he was World Barista Champion.
I also bought a very nice mug and some high end small batch roast from "Workshop Coffee", 200 new V60 filters, a Hario V60 filter holder, and a coffee drip scale/timer.
Looking forward to some epic brews in the future!
Did you check out his really very interesting video on the multiple Hario versions of those papers too? Worth a look if not, and also worth checking out the comments for any updates.
https://youtu.be/0uggibTY0AE
Lol no, I'll check that out next though!
Same - can't wait!
Great video. Going to try this tomorrow morning once I’m out if this YouTube rabbit hole
10g? That’s a very low dose, or is it low volume to match?
I usually do 15-18g depending on the bean
10g is the sweet spot for me. I use 200g water. Not huge, not small.
Cost is also a factor. I pay £40-£45/kg for beans. So each cup costs me 40-45p.
That's a cost I'm comfortable with. I wouldn't be comfortable with 1.5-2x that.
If you are looking for high quality but good value then Horsham coffee are good, I posted in the coffee thread with a discount code which makes it even cheaper. They do some interesting natural process and carbonic maceration coffee’s that have been excellent as filter.
Cool, I shall check them out
My preference is for a medium to strong roast. Nothing too acidic or fruity. I like creamy, nutty notes.
I use a Hario glass jug/ceramic V60 with their bleached filter papers. It easy with consistent results. Also very tolerant of my variable coffee bean grinding skills, always good whatever I do to the beans...
I’ve tried a couple of the metal V60 filters and have personally found them to be rubbish. After w couple of uses the holes in them get blocked and stop filtering coffee through. No amount of cleaning and scrubbing seemed to improve matters. I stick to paper filters now.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Filter-Coff...kitchen&sr=1-3
If the link doesnt work search amazon for "Drip Coffee Maker Set Size 4" no quotes.
There is little or no fuss - job done - been using these for many years.
B
When you say pour over you mean filter, right?
Pour over is a type of filter coffee, but not all filter coffee is pour over.
I drink almost no coffee other than filter. I am almost certainly doing it wrong, but I use a plastic Size 6 filter cone, Melitta papers and brew into a nice enamelled "Pottle" from Labour & Wait. I use about 2.5 scoops of freshly ground coffee and a pinch of salt, and that makes about 4 mugs' worth of decent coffee. I have never weighed the coffee or water; actually, I'm definitely doing it wrong.
Most methods are filter TBH, even expresso.
Last edited by Kingstepper; 28th September 2020 at 11:03.
I've learned that via this most-excellent thread!
Another pour over fan here.
I use an MBK aergrind, V60, a swan neck pouring kettle and scales.
Fresh beans from a local roaster (Horsham Coffee) and digital scales.
I tend to use a 16:1 ratio and have found quite small grind adjustments can have significant results.
If any one wants to try Horsham Coffee send me a PM and I can send you a £5.00 off referral link
https://www.horshamcoffeeroaster.co....s/coffee-beans
I usually drink espresso in the morning and filter in the afternoon. I've owned a Chemx in the past and it makes nice coffee and looks great. I currently have a chemex-like pot from Bodum with a mesh basket than takes standard Melitta papers. Works well, and I'm happy with the coffee.
This one: https://www.bodum.com/gb/en/11571-10...oaAgWxEALw_wcB
I’ve gone through most pour over kit, and the V60 has always been the least consistent for me, too reactive to slight changes in grind, pour speed, temperature, everything really. I tried a kinto stainless filter cone, worked well, but as the stainless filter wasn’t quite as fine as a paper one, the coffee had a bit of a grainy mouthfeel. The stand out winner for me is the Kalita Wave, very similar approach to the V60, but much more consistent. Dirt cheap from Amazon, whatever coffee I use I use more or less the same grind size, every cup is good. I might miss the occasional stellar cups from the v60, but there are no duds.
Thanks everyone some very insightful stuff and I can’t believe how much time I have wasted watching You tube videos.
Think I am a fan of James Hoffman but blimey he takes it seriously doesn’t he?
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He does indeed, but it is sort of his job given his Square Mile roastery! What most impresses me about him is that he's not at all afraid to admit when he's wrong, such as in the below:
https://youtu.be/-5PtDOhtgGk
That's how you do it!
Any recommendations for a good scale. Something with a timer for making the perfect v60...
What have I unleashed?
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Update to my post at 19:41.
Now also ordered a Hario pouring kettle, a Brita water filter, and "The World Atlas of Coffee" book.
I have also brought a V60 with stand, Hario 02 server, Skerton Plus Grinder, weight and timer scale, a Coffee Gator pouring kettle!
I don’t think I have stopped yet either!
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I've been unsuccessfully trying to buy an aergrind for months, but always sold out. We're not looking for such fine grinding for pour over coffee, so the skerton plus looks pretty good for the price.
Was given a Chemex and have to say that its exponentially better than a V60. Possibly down to the filters but taste so much smoother overall
Chemex filters are much thicker than most of the Hario V60 filter papers. I like a bit of 'something' to the coffee personally, but having never tried a Chemex and the 'cleaness' it's supposed to produce, I may change my mind!
Checked out his other video on the water types? (I still went with a Brita..!)
https://youtu.be/jfElZfrmlRs
The Kraken.
Regards
V
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So here is my new V60 set up. Kettle and grinder are out of shot.
Now it is time to play with the grind, amount of coffee and water!
Very swish setup in a lovely room! As with all things coffee, experiment and enjoy the results.So here is my new V60 set up. Kettle and grinder are out of shot.
Now it is time to play with the grind, amount of coffee and water!
Changes to time, temperature, agitation, water and even which filter papers you use can change the taste. Why? Well it's an organic produce and you need to find a recipe you enjoy. I more or less stick with Hoffman's recipe as in the video, but I do change the grind depending on the nature of the beans I'm using.
I'm lucky to be in Edinburgh with soft Scottish water, so no need for descaling or filters. I also have Artisan Roast who are exceptional local roasters, who stock a lovely range of carefully roasted beans.
Anyway enough chuntering, I hope everyone enjoys their coffee!
David
Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations
Argh, I don’t even really drink coffee but I’ve read this entire thread and watched a few of James’ videos (absolutely love the precision!). This set up also looks awesome.
I may have a Clever Coffee Dripper en route to me. Not from here, this was just the first link in Google. This uses paper filters.
I also have an IngenuiTEA which I use for loose peppermint tea. This has a stainless steel filter in it so no faffing with papers.
These are both immersion brewers, which dump their contents into your mug/cup through a valve in the bottom. The brew time is much easier to control, but not as easy to clean the stainless filter one compared to paper filter.
Last edited by Templogin; 29th December 2020 at 21:37.
Had a Hario Switch and Hario drip scales arrive this week. I’m impressed with both and the Switch’s immersion method is different enough to my Chemex to feel I’m not doing in effect the same thing. It’s sped up making a coffee and is probably more repeatable as a process.
Lol this thread should just be called 'coffee' to save the redundancy
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I've been drinking pour over filter for 3 years or so. I'd tried everything. Espresso machine, stove top, cafatiere, aeropress, coffee bags, pre prepared pour over kits
Now, I grind 10g of beans in my rancilio grinder, pour using my £5 swan neck jug from China, on to my Monmouth cone. I usually buy beans from harrods but can't be bothered with the trip every six weeks or so now.
So I wanted to ask how people have found square mile coffee deliveries.... Any good?
I signed up with Square Mile last week and got my first delivery (Chelbesa) on Friday, its easily as good or better than anything I've had before (Pact/Hasbean) so I'll be sticking with them for now.
Drinking my first brew now. It's nice and smooth so I think I chose the right blend. It didn't work like his did though so I need to watch the video again.
Right, so I mixed up my grams and millilitres :(
Second brew used correct volumes and digital scales and was much better.
I might buy a Chemex now, for the mornings and any time I'm brewing up for more than 1 person...
1g = 1ml water
They are the same.
How can you mix them up?
Presumably the ratios and thus amounts for coffee vs. water
Unlikely ratios could be sensibly reversed.
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