41mm Rolex Sub

[Craizeehair]

Introducing: The Rolex Submariner Ref. 124060, A 41mm No-Date Sub With An Upgraded Movement (Live Pics & Pricing) https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ro...mm-new-release

Not sure if I’m late with this?

New Watches showing on the Rolex website

[hughtrimble]

The article suggests that they're also releasing the date Sub and PM models updated to 41mm too.

[verv]

https://www.rolex.com/watches/submariner.html

Hulk discontinued.

[andyd30]

and a short video...

https://youtu.be/IjcvZ8GSl1M

[Craizeehair]

https://www.rolex.com/watches/submariner.html

Hulk discontinued.

That new black dial and green bezel is gonna be popular.

[Rob]

Hodinkee seems to have crashed for now

[verv]

That new black dial and green bezel is gonna be popular.

Yep. Wish they'd stayed at 40 tho.

[toptime]

https://www.rolex.com/watches/submariner.html

Hulk discontinued.

I’m still getting the old line up on that link?

[alanm_3]

41mm Oyster Perpetual too. Blue dial looks nice.

[dandanthewatchman]

Sub - all black
Sub Date - black dial green bezel

Sub date not available with black dial and black bezel. Surprised at that.


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[toptime]

I’m still getting the old line up on that link?

Scratch that...

[alanm_3]

Sub - all black
Sub Date - black dial green bezel

Sub date not available with black dial and black bezel. Surprised at that.


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It’s there :-

https://www.rolex.com/watches/submar...10ln-0001.html

[beechcustom]

Sub date not available with black dial and black bezel. Surprised at that.


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Yes it is (you can select black bezel via configure function).

[dandanthewatchman]

It’s there :-

https://www.rolex.com/watches/submar...10ln-0001.html

See it now. It wasn’t mentioned on the page I was on. Glad it’s still there


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[jukeboxs]

£350 premium for the Kermit bezel. Did it always come at a premium?

Must say I'm liking the bi-metal Smurf.

And nice to know my Hulk's just gone through the roof.

[LondonNeil]

Yes hulk was always slightly more then the LN

[jukeboxs]

Yes hulk was always slightly more then the LN

Thanks Neil. But then the Hulk has (or had) the different dial too (which came at a premium). I couldn't remember if the original Kermit (same dial, only difference being the bezel) was at a premium to the black Sub.

[Boss13]

Thanks Neil. But then the Hulk has (or had) the different dial too (which came at a premium). I couldn't remember if the original Kermit (same dial, only difference being the bezel) was at a premium to the black Sub.

Did the Kermit also not have a different dial? Maxi.

[samrolex94]

I’m struggling to see the difference between the 40mm and new 41mm Submariners. The pictures make it hard to determine, but is the point by the crown thinner?

I know there have been some comparison photos over the past few days but it’s been unclear if they those leaks are actually true or PS jobs.

[459GMB]

Anyone seen lug to lug or case height mentioned anywhere ?

[Kevin]

[Flasher]

Anyone seen lug to lug or case height mentioned anywhere ?

Case height is the unchanged, unsure on lug to lug but would assume minimal with only the 1mm case size increase. Bracelet is up to 21mm giving less of a taper and more balanced look.

Looking at the comparison images between this new release and outgoing, the new model in my eyes is an upgrade at every level from the bloated super case and a welcome return of a more classic Submariner.

Owners of the super case may not agree, the super case has been popular since it’s inception over a decade ago but maybe that was due to what was available from a Rolex rather than sporting a design classic, which I feel the super case departed from to fit a fashion moment of bigger watches.

Whether Rolex felt the Supercase was a bad design it has been clear for the past couple of years that they felt the need to move away from that square look and too create a better profiled watch, which they gave with the upgraded DSSD, Sea dweller etc and now returned the iconic Sub to a more defined classic look.

No doubt sellers at this very moment will be looking to ride the Rolex super case discontinued price jump that follows every discontinued model these days but time will tell if the Supercase retains the desired value or if the return to the classic Rolex with these new releases places the Supercase as a Fashion moment that Rolex was happy to dump.

[EJL25]

Is the green bezel on new Kermit darker than the one on Hulk?

[Tony-GB]

Daytona: I'm the star of the Rolex line up

Submariner be like: Hold my beer.


Thought I'd inject a little Rolex fanboi speak.

[gaurav_tzuk]

Is the green bezel on new Kermit darker than the one on Hulk?

Certainly looks like it from the pictures

[RJM25R]

Two tone now has stainless crown????

And white text.....

[beechcustom]

Two tone has a stainless crown?

Good spot!

[Stuno1]

The size increased will likely make the BB58 line more appealing to more people now. It’s not just the case but the bracelet increase that will make the watch look a lot more bulky. Strange choice.

[futon river crossing]

The new case and wider bracelet is a massive improvement on the previous model.

[mtagrant]

Daytona: I'm the star of the Rolex line up

Submariner be like: Hold my beer.


Thought I'd inject a little Rolex fanboi speak.

Twitter would love that 😉

[KavKav]

Doubtless customers who turn up asking to buy one will continue to be laughed at by Rolex AD’s!

[dkpw]

The new case and wider bracelet is a massive improvement on the previous model.

Yes indeed.

As my 16610 is now two versions old, does that make it vintage?

[mtagrant]

Yes indeed.

As my 16610 is now two versions old, does that make it vintage?

Yes, therefore a service will now be £2k 😉

[Omegamanic]

For the first time in a long time, I think I’d happily have every single model in the Submariner line up!

[mrushton]

£350 premium for the Kermit bezel. Did it always come at a premium?

Must say I'm liking the bi-metal Smurf.

And nice to know my Hulk's just gone through the roof.

Yes. I wouldn't pay it back when the Sub was £2700 the kermit was £3k+. Think Mike Wood objected too but he may have changed his mind years later. Friend of mine wears his every day at his shop. Has the original bezel tucked away.

[Craizeehair]

For me, the increase to 41mm with a wider bracelet is a good move, I must admit though, I didn’t think that it would happen.

I’d really like to try the green bezel but would be happy with any of the steel configurations. I will make the usual enquiries at the AD but I don’t hold out much hope. It feels as though these will be more out of reach than ever.

[Wallasey Runner]

I think the new case is an improvement, rather 41mm than 43mm like the SD went. The slimmer lugs look much better to. It would be nice if Rolex could address the elephant in the room and supply enough watches to ADs so we don't see the new models being listed for 100%+ profit from day 1.

Hulk owners will be celebrating today. Remember when the SDc4000 was discontinued, second hand stocks disappeared over night and prices shot up. It is a strange that people who previously weren't bothered about the Hulk will suddenly be scrambling to find one. If they didn't want one last week, why does this news change things unless it's seen as a sure fire money maker.

[mtagrant]

I think the new case is an improvement, rather 41mm than 43mm like the SD went. The slimmer lugs look much better to. It would be nice if Rolex could address the elephant in the room and supply enough watches to ADs so we don't see the new models being listed for 100%+ profit from day 1.

Hulk owners will be celebrating today. Remember when the SDc4000 was discontinued, second hand stocks disappeared over night and prices shot up. It is a strange that people who previously weren't bothered about the Hulk will suddenly be scrambling to find one. If they didn't want one last week, why does this news change things unless it's seen as a sure fire money maker.

It’s all in your last sentence

[crazyp]

I think the new case is an improvement, rather 41mm than 43mm like the SD went. The slimmer lugs look much better to. It would be nice if Rolex could address the elephant in the room and supply enough watches to ADs so we don't see the new models being listed for 100%+ profit from day 1.

Hulk owners will be celebrating today. Remember when the SDc4000 was discontinued, second hand stocks disappeared over night and prices shot up. It is a strange that people who previously weren't bothered about the Hulk will suddenly be scrambling to find one. If they didn't want one last week, why does this news change things unless it's seen as a sure fire money maker.

Well the difference with the SD is that at the time the SD was less loved compared to the Hulk now. And I'd be pretty sure there are a LOT of Hulks out there compared to SD4000s.

Anyway, onto this Sub. The only positive thing I can say is it looks less tubby. I've always thought Rolex knew this after releasing the ceramic Sub, but would only ever wait till the next planned refresh to correct the proportions.

[Stuno1]

What is the lug to lug?

[Montello]

It’s just become more bling, bigger head, wider bracelet .... all moving in the wrong direction.

The BB58 looks even more good value now.

[Foxyadam]

How would this affect the price of the outgoing 114060? Would it increase value or decrease?

Thanks,
Adam

[2012]

Doubtless customers who turn up asking to buy one will continue to be laughed at by Rolex AD’s!

Well, it does say on Hodinkee's Full Specs:-

"Availability: At all Rolex authorized dealers starting Wednesday, September 2, 2020".

Lets see, but just in case, don't hold your breath...

[ac11111]

How would this affect the price of the outgoing 114060? Would it increase value or decrease?

Thanks,
Adam

My guess is up a bit now, then flat, then slowly up.

[gaurav_tzuk]

How would this affect the price of the outgoing 114060? Would it increase value or decrease?

Thanks,
Adam

Watchfinder listing 116610 at 12k and 114060 at 10k

I know their prices are to be taken with a large pinch of salt but it’s Madness!

[dkpw]

Yes, therefore a service will now be £2k 

Thank you for that most comforting thought. :)

[pete-r]

I think over time the super case 40 will look smaller and a 41 will be the new super bulk.

I’m happy to have a 114060 over the new one tbh but I will sell for watchfinder money haha

[Seamaster73]

Daytona: I'm the star of the Rolex line up

Submariner be like: Hold my beer.

Thought I'd inject a little Rolex fanboi speak.

Please don't.

[abraxas]

Doubtless customers who turn up asking to buy one will continue to be laughed at by Rolex AD’s!

I can't wait to be reading the moans which are coming...

I bought extra popcorn.

[demonloop]

40mm is about the right size for me, but I'd take the 41mm with the slimmer lugs over the previous 'maxi' case model