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    Christopher Ward New C65 Super Compressor

    Just been released today but I don't see it as a winner.
    It just looks boring and no different to other compressors at cheaper prices.
    The Ocean Blue doesn't look to bad on the bracelet but at £1000.00 it just seems expensive for what you get.

    https://www.christopherward.com/retr...-S0WK0-B0.html

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    "The C65 Super Compressor is the first genuine super compressor diving watch in 50 years."

    That's a lofty claim, my understanding was only cases manufactured by EPSA were genuine Super Compressors and that the name was trademarked. I don't see any Brevit numbers.

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    Well apparently this makes it a genuine super compressor.

    (The C65 Super Compressor is the first genuine super compressor diving watch in 50 years. With every metre you descend, its ingenious mechanism increases water-resistance. Turn it over, and the exhibition caseback – a first for a super compressor – shows you the all-important compression spring and diving-bell logo.)

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    I like it, and appreciate the restraint shown in the design. I like the polished to brushed and back again contrasts on the case chamfers, which is genuinely like the EPSA cases used by so many companies back n the day.
    But what I really like is the fact that they understand the "Compressor" name and have re-used Piquerez's original concept of a case that deforms slightly with increased pressure, pressing ever more tightly on the seals to resist the increasing pressure.
    2 crowns doth not a compressor make, and CW understand that, unlike many others.
    Dave

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    Well, IMHO its the best looking CW watch ever! (is that damning with faint praise??). Ignoring whether its a good diving watch or not, I quite like it, but I don't like the price at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post
    Well, IMHO its the best looking CW watch ever! (is that damning with faint praise??). Ignoring whether its a good diving watch or not, I quite like it, but I don't like the price at all!
    Love your negative tint at the end there just to keep your username valid

    I agree with you though, looking at the proper pics it certainly does look great and I like the fact the crowns are correctly spaced which is a bugbear of mine worth most modern Super Compressor style watches where they are too far apart which IMO kills the design.

    Regarding price, there are always sales with CW so just wait for a bit. Not sure how long it is until new models appear in the 50% off. 30% shouldn't be too long though I wouldn't think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    I like it, and appreciate the restraint shown in the design. I like the polished to brushed and back again contrasts on the case chamfers, which is genuinely like the EPSA cases used by so many companies back n the day.
    But what I really like is the fact that they understand the "Compressor" name and have re-used Piquerez's original concept of a case that deforms slightly with increased pressure, pressing ever more tightly on the seals to resist the increasing pressure.
    2 crowns doth not a compressor make, and CW understand that, unlike many others.
    Dave
    I agree.
    As far as I know trademarks will expire after a certain number of years unless they are maintained in use.
    I think it's a nice looking watch and worthy of the Super Compressor name.

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    good move with the logo returned to 12 too :0)

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    I'd like to know exactly how the back deforms given that it's almost entirely a flat sapphire crystal, I'd expect the crystal to fail before it deforms. Good effort though, the best design I've seen from CW to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanford View Post
    I agree.
    As far as I know trademarks will expire after a certain number of years unless they are maintained in use.
    I think it's a nice looking watch and worthy of the Super Compressor name.
    Also, E Piquerez SA, whose design it was and who presumably trademark protected and copyrighted it, went into liquidation in 1991.

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    I quite like it - which is a first as most of their watches leave me a little cold.

    Two problems for me:

    I have never liked their logo. Small thing, but seems to make a huge difference to me for some reason!

    I really don't like display backs.

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    I think the writing is well centered. It is an illusion created by shaded indices.

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    Christopher Ward New C65 Super Compressor

    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    I think the writing is well centered. It is an illusion created by shaded indices.
    In the renders ‘Super Compressor’ definitely doesn’t look centred to me. The distance between the ‘S’ and bezel edge is less than the distance between the ‘R’ and bezel edge, indicating its slightly left aligned from centre.

    Small detail that may bother some and not bother others at all. Also as I’ve said, the production models could be fine.

    Ps. I’m in the really like the watch camp.

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    Just out of curiosity I have contacted CW to see what they say about the letter spacing and whether it is just an illusion - be interested if/ what they come back with

    I prefer this over the Farer but I’m another than would find the letter spacing off putting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpshell View Post
    Just out of curiosity I have contacted CW to see what they say about the letter spacing and whether it is just an illusion - be interested if/ what they come back with

    I prefer this over the Farer but I’m another than would find the letter spacing off putting
    It’s nicer looking than the farer I think, but I almost think the farer may be a better watch to live with long term, not owners one but from what I gather it’s extremely well built


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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    I think the writing is well centered. It is an illusion created by shaded indices.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetlee View Post


    Looks one letter out to me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpshell View Post
    Looks one letter out to me.....
    Yeah about right, not that far out but enough for my eyes. Strange thing to happen regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpshell View Post
    Looks one letter out to me.....
    Hmmm, I now think you are right! 'Super Compressor' has 16 letters including the space, so the mid point ought to be between the O and M of compressor, but it seems to be on the right side of the M, almost at the P. How odd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetlee View Post
    That could become a little irritating

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    I like it.

    One of the best looking watches they have released for ages.

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    I really like that. On tropic strap it’s £895 and with a £100 discount voucher £795.

    Starts to become very appealing.

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    I quite like it and agree 100% with Sweets’ post.

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    I quite like it too. I’d be interested to see examples of other true compressor watches as I suspect the OP was referring to cheaper compressor style watches.

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    Correct.

    When I first looked at it it was the Black version that put me off. It just seems plain but the more I look at the Blue one the easier on the eye it becomes.
    Like I said in a few month's time I will look to get my hands on the Blue one.

    In the meanwhile if anyone wants the £100.00 voucher let me know and I will post it to you.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmarchitect View Post
    I quite like it too. I’d be interested to see examples of other true compressor watches as I suspect the OP was referring to cheaper compressor style watches.
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    Deserves a pic


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    It's interesting to see a "proper" compressor case - most brands haven't bothered to mimc /recreate the ESPA case, as there are probably better ways of doing it. But points for historic accuracy.
    However, is it just me, or did anyone else think of the Bulova / Accutron Deep Sea (and similar models) (sans date) when they saw the photo?
    Cool thing. Probably.

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    That is the first CW watch that has appealed to me. I like it.










    (Still hate the name though).


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    Christopher Ward New C65 Super Compressor

    Blue or ‘Black Sand’. What’s your preference?
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    Very similar in design and price to the Farer Aqua Compressor-
    https://farer.com/collections/aqua-c...sor-automatics

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    Quote Originally Posted by inthered View Post
    Very similar in design and price to the Farer Aqua Compressor-
    https://farer.com/collections/aqua-c...sor-automatics
    I think that makes the Christopher ward a bit more impressive, considering the farer is a compressor only in looks.

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    I have owned several CW watches in the past and kept none, they really should be a brand that is leaving others in the dust but there is always a little something that lets them down in this case the text on the dial. Everything else on the watch is pretty much a home run, the actual dial looks excellent and the spec is likewise. Bracelet doesnt really bother me I have only had one previous CW watch on a bracelet and found the bracelets to be pretty poor but can only assume with the quick change bracelets there is some improvements that have been made. Either way, I would probably not leave it long on a bracelet anyway.

    Price wise the Farer is the same price but on a rubber strap (All be it Titanium case and a regulated movement) I dont see any possible discounts on the Farer although I think Jura (Who seem to regularly have discounts) stock them. Would like to hear opinions of anyone who has the Farer SC because for me the CW just about wins this one.

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    Even saw an TV advert for this on the Discovery channel! Didn't get a chance to see how the dial text was aligned.
    CW VERY coy on the price....

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    I have owned several CW watches in the past and kept none, they really should be a brand that is leaving others in the dust but there is always a little something that lets them down in this case the text on the dial. Everything else on the watch is pretty much a home run, the actual dial looks excellent and the spec is likewise. Bracelet doesnt really bother me I have only had one previous CW watch on a bracelet and found the bracelets to be pretty poor but can only assume with the quick change bracelets there is some improvements that have been made. Either way, I would probably not leave it long on a bracelet anyway.

    Price wise the Farer is the same price but on a rubber strap (All be it Titanium case and a regulated movement) I dont see any possible discounts on the Farer although I think Jura (Who seem to regularly have discounts) stock them. Would like to hear opinions of anyone who has the Farer SC because for me the CW just about wins this one.
    I have an original model Hecla and couldn't be happier with it. The dial design is a pleasure, it is built like a tank, and keeps excellent time. It isn't an SC though, as noted before, if that is important to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superthrust View Post
    I think that makes the Christopher ward a bit more impressive, considering the farer is a compressor only in looks.

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    Farer also claim that the water pressure impacts on their case and seals in a similar way to a super compressor to increase water resistance (thus the 'Aqua Compressor'?)- don't know how much truth in it. Their bezel crown is claimed water tight to 100m unscrewed to let the bezel operate underwater.

    I have a s/steel Leven and am very impressed with the quality and look. When I first bought it a couple of years ago, I wasn't too sure about it when it arrived but the more I wear it the more I look forward to its rotation coming around. It a very different and distinctive watch in the current market, the polished sides and slim polished flat section of case around the crystal look great - a real touch of class. I'd recommend it to anyone who likes that style. I also have a recently issued Ocean Crawler Great Lakes which is a VERY similar design but, though I like it too, the Farer is a couple of notches at least above it in style and finish. The applied indices of the Leven work very well , as do the combination of colours on the hands/dial/bezel. The sloping crown shape works in practise fitting the fingers well - its the easiest crown to operate of all my watches. It very comfortable to wear fitting my 6.75" wrist pretty well. I wouldn't say it wears particularily small but the 41.5 x 45/46 mm, fairly slim case (no bezel stuck on top !) should suit most. In addition the movement is the 'no date' 2824 rather than a covered date wheel. I gather the latest titanium ones have a SW200 no date movement. The only issue I had was the bottom bezel crown came out and this was fixed under warranty with no issues or quibble by Farer who kept me informed of receipt, repair and return throughout.

    I quite like the CW but its just missing something for me - that and a little big for a traditional style compressor at 42mm. I'd have liked to see 38mm (like the reissued Lip Nautic) or at the most 40mm. The mis- aligned text is like something on a re-done dial from India....
    Last edited by Drumcairn; 3rd September 2020 at 16:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumcairn View Post
    Farer also claim that the water pressure impacts on their case and seals in a similar way to a super compressor to increase water resistance - don't know how much truth in it. Their bezel crown is apparantly water tight to 100m unscrewed to let the bezel operate underwater. I have a Leven and am very impressed with the quality and look.

    I quite like the CW but its just missing something for me - that and a little big at 42mm. I'd have liked to see 38mm (like the reissued Lip Nautic) or at the most 40mm. The mis- aligned text is like something on a re-done dial from India....
    I got one of those Lip Nautic reissue watches as a bit of fun summer watch, mine came with a bit of plastic floating around the dial and while on first impression it seemed very nice and a good fun watch the overall quality of the watch was something of a cheap micro brand and value wise probably half what it was selling for (even in the sale) Cant say I was greatly impressed with it ended up sending it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    Blue or ‘Black Sand’. What’s your preference?
    Blue

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    First CW watch I've seen that I want to own. I'd prefer an SW300 but for £1000 it's a hell of a lot of watch for the money.

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    Love that it’s a true compressor case. They deserve credit for that, in the face of multiple compressor-style watches (one of which I own)

    The overall aesthetics leave me a bit cold. Personal taste and all but I can never get excited about CW watches despite some great work.


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    I'm not a christopher ward hater, I actually don't mind the brand, yes the logo fiasco stinks...
    That's a fairly nice watch at least they are trying to innovate and bring something different to the market,it looks like they've put some effort in unlike a lot of established brands who seem content to rest on their laurels and churn out the same old stuff in different colours etc.
    I wouldn't buy it as its just a bit too expensive, as has been said in one of the inevitable sales it may be more attractive.

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    Seems convenient but I just received the £100.00 off voucher in the post.

    I've had quite a few CW over the year's but never kept one longer than 4 month's.
    I will look out for the blue one in a few month's time as they will most likely pop up on eBay at a few hundred quid less.

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    This is a great watch for several reasons, first cw i have felt like I might buy for a long while. The twin crown is cool, the movement is not just clever but beautiful and it looks like a genuinely good tool watch, price is reasonable and although I’m not a fan of the ocean blue necessarily the black face is very nicely balanced with the orange

    Well done cw in this case from me, way better than those horrid sapphire watches they last released


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    I like it a lot, particularly the blue dialled version. I've owned a CW watch in the past, the Makaira, and thought the quality for the price was great. As others have said, the logo/name never seems to work, although this with the name at 12 looks much better.

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    I have had several CW watches, and all have been moved on. I really liked the GMT Elite, but the CW branding at 9pm just does not work, so this having the name at 12 def does work better.

    I think with the £100 they are not bad priced at all. It is interesting that they actively promote that the mark up on their watches is 300%.

    I think it is unlikely you will see these at the 30% discount for a while yet.

    I do hope that all future models do revert back to where the name should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s1wnw View Post
    I have had several CW watches, and all have been moved on. I really liked the GMT Elite, but the CW branding at 9pm just does not work, so this having the name at 12 def does work better.

    I think with the £100 they are not bad priced at all. It is interesting that they actively promote that the mark up on their watches is 300%.

    I think it is unlikely you will see these at the 30% discount for a while yet.

    I do hope that all future models do revert back to where the name should be.
    That’s what they want you to think .. I’d be interested to se an exact costing because in reality after numbers have been massaged it’ll be much much higher


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    Christopher Ward New C65 Super Compressor

    Someone pointed out on WUS that the ‘Super Compressor’ text is not centred. Needs moved right a bit. Once you see it it’s hard to unsee. Maybe it’s just on the images though and the production models are ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    Someone pointed out on WUS that the ‘Super Compressor’ text is not centred. Needs moved right a bit. Once you see it it’s hard to unsee. Maybe it’s just on the images though and the production models are ok.
    How did no-one at CW notice that?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    Someone pointed out on WUS that the ‘Super Compressor’ text is not centred. Needs moved right a bit. Once you see it it’s hard to unsee. Maybe it’s just on the images though and the production models are ok.
    Arrghhh! Must be just the renders surely? What could be the reason for not centring it?

    Good job I wasn't considering one, that would have 100% been a deal breaker for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetlee View Post
    Arrghhh! How on earth? What could be the reason for not centring it?

    Good job I wasn't considering one, that would have 100% been a deal breaker for me.
    That’s not the style of watch though, that’s just the sloppy nature of cw churning new watches out every 2 minutes that we have come to know and love, the super compressor style is excellent


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    That’s not the style of watch though, that’s just the sloppy nature of cw churning new watches out every 2 minutes that we have come to know and love, the super compressor style is excellent


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    Interestingly I popped over to the CW forum to see what they were saying about this watch and came across this:

    https://www.christopherwardforum.com...hp?f=1&t=54458

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