closing tag is in template navbar
timefactors watches



TZ-UK Fundraiser
Results 1 to 29 of 29

Thread: Boundary fences, who owns or is responsible for them.

  1. #1

    Boundary fences, who owns or is responsible for them.

    Like many properties my place if looking from the front has a boundary/fence down the left, the right and at the bottom, my neighbor on the left has always assumed responsibility for my "left" fence so I have always assumed the one to the right is mine ? I had always assumed the one at the bottom of my garden was mine as well but I don't know.

    My neighbor to the right who is a bit of a p*+*" says the fence on my right (his left) is his and also the one at the bottom of my garden is his, he has a L shaped garden which runs parallel to my garden and across the bottom as well.

    Is there a 100% foolproof way of finding out who owns what ? having done a little research on the net nothing now seems any clearer to me but some interesting knowledge gained.

    Thanks.

  2. #2
    I may be wrong but I always assumed it was down to the deeds of the property and so never set in stone.

  3. #3
    Master
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Here and there mostly
    Posts
    1,436
    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    I may be wrong but I always assumed it was down to the deeds of the property and so never set in stone.
    Yes, deeds is the certain way to ascertain who is responsible for which fences. Problem is older properties don't have all the annexes etc which show these things.

    Newer properties should be much easier

    Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

  4. #4
    Master
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    3,794
    In our case the one on the left is our responsibility and the one on the right is our neighbours

    The one at the bottom of the garden is our responsibility

    I seem to remember on previous houses that we have owned that various coloured lines were marked on the deeds to indicate ownership, I'll have to check the deeds on the current house, but I cannot remember ever seeing any???

  5. #5
    Grand Master mart broad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    12,040
    Blog Entries
    5
    Might be wrong but if the fence has arris rails if they are showing then that fence is yours
    I FEEL LIKE I'M DIAGONALLY PARKED IN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE

  6. #6
    Grand Master wileeeeeey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    19,167
    Check your deeds. Different for everyone.

  7. #7
    I recently had this problem. The deeds are the only place where you’ll find an official record. However, not all deeds have this recorded so there may not be an answer

    On the drawings of boundaries of the property, there will be a T pointing into whichever property is responsible for the boundary itself.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  8. #8
    Grand Master hogthrob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Essex, UK
    Posts
    16,888
    Quote Originally Posted by mart broad View Post
    Might be wrong but if the fence has arris rails if they are showing then that fence is yours
    This used to be the case, but nowadays people just have the 'nice' side of the fence facing their garden.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by mart broad View Post
    Might be wrong but if the fence has arris rails if they are showing then that fence is yours
    Might be the traditional way but if I was putting up such a fence I’d have the best (non-arris) side facing.

    Deeds are the only sure fire way of telling. Could always ask other neighbours, if friendly, what’s the usual side to own in the street.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    This used to be the case, but nowadays people just have the 'nice' side of the fence facing their garden.
    I read on the internet that the suggested "correct" way is to have the nice side on the neighbors side.

  11. #11
    Grand Master hogthrob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Essex, UK
    Posts
    16,888
    If you have the title plan for your property, the boundaries that belong to you should be indicated by small 'T' marks along their length.

    You can download title your title plan (£3) from https://eservices.landregistry.gov.u...EnquiryInit.do

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTigerUK View Post
    I read on the internet that the suggested "correct" way is to have the nice side on the neighbors side.
    It is, but people today ...

  12. #12
    Grand Master mart broad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    12,040
    Blog Entries
    5
    Whichever way but if you go non rails and your neighbour does the same then on one fence you will have rails
    I FEEL LIKE I'M DIAGONALLY PARKED IN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE

  13. #13
    Master Man of Kent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Garden of England
    Posts
    1,496
    My title plans show no "T" s, and I have fences on 3 sides.

  14. #14
    Master
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Madeley shropshire
    Posts
    6,202
    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    In our case the one on the left is our responsibility and the one on the right is our neighbours

    The one at the bottom of the garden is our responsibility

    I seem to remember on previous houses that we have owned that various coloured lines were marked on the deeds to indicate ownership, I'll have to check the deeds on the current house, but I cannot remember ever seeing any???
    Just doubled checked my deeds left and bottom garden mine join between the two the awkward bastardized next door lol.

  15. #15
    Grand Master Neil.C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    SE England
    Posts
    27,087
    Strangely enough around here both parties are jointly responsible for the fences.

    So check the deeds.
    Cheers,
    Neil.

  16. #16
    My deeds show it in plan drawn version and also in words. Trouble is the words say the absolute opposite of the drawn plans. Very helpful !!

    Foggy

  17. #17
    Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    East Anglia
    Posts
    1,846
    Blog Entries
    2
    Don’t start me on boundary fences,when I checked with land registry they told me the deeds weren’t worth the paper they were written on ,solicitor bent me over the desk.I wish you well.

  18. #18
    Grand Master number2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North and South.
    Posts
    30,696
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTigerUK View Post
    I read on the internet that the suggested "correct" way is to have the nice side on the neighbors side.
    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    It is, but people today ...
    Unfortunately that ^^^^^^.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

  19. #19
    Master bomberman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    The only town in Britain with Caesar's name
    Posts
    1,280
    I would try and agree something with your neighbours in the first instance if nothing is on the Title, Deeds or original planning consent that may help. You could try and seek feedback from your wider neighbours and from the owners of who you purchased the property from although your solicitors should have covered this off as there is not hard and fast rules.

    I’ve been involved in a number of boundary disputes over the years. One was resolved using mediation, a couple have been resolved as the neighbours have backed down, one was lost at court and two are currently about to go to court having now had surveys undertaken that are in our favour despite the property owners not being in agreement.

    As a word of warning, as our position is very strong and if we win, we will look to recover costs although this is for the court award.

    I would like to reiterate that you should try to avoid any boundary disputes and come to a mutual agreement if at all possible, even if you have to eat a little humble pie if you’re in the wrong.

    B

  20. #20
    With your back to your house the left is normally your responsibility


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  21. #21
    This was a decent read.
    https://blog.fantasticservices.com/g...ty-neighbours/

    ps: It is hard to mediate with a total P*** :(

  22. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweepinghand View Post
    With your back to your house the left is normally your responsibility


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Old wives tale.

  23. #23
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    523
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTigerUK View Post
    I read on the internet that the suggested "correct" way is to have the nice side on the neighbors side.
    That’s the country we used to live in.

  24. #24
    Master bomberman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    The only town in Britain with Caesar's name
    Posts
    1,280
    Quote Originally Posted by meridian View Post
    That’s the country we used to live in.
    So true....

  25. #25
    Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Hertfordshire
    Posts
    2,845
    Blog Entries
    1
    The reason for having the 'nice side' facing the neighbours is because the posts have to be in your land.

  26. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by JonRA View Post
    The reason for having the 'nice side' facing the neighbours is because the posts have to be in your land.
    When using concrete posts the fence panel is in the center of the post.

  27. #27
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    3,217
    As already said, check deeds...but every house I have owned I have always been responsible for the left side...so old wives tale or not, it may be more common to be responsible for the left as a reasonable guess!

  28. #28
    Master
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Here and there mostly
    Posts
    1,436
    The way my house deeds are written says something along the lines of

    "If you stand on the road facing the front of your house, the fence pointing north is yours, and the fence to the rear".

    That happens to be the right side for me, however for my neighbour who lives directly opposite, his is the left and rear.

    Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk

  29. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by JonRA View Post
    The reason for having the 'nice side' facing the neighbours is because the posts have to be in your land.
    That’s a reason. On the other hand, makes maintenance less straightforward.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Do Not Sell My Personal Information