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    This new logo variant look so much better than the bold "smith" words.
    Is it just me that think the hourly marker hand is relatively shorter than the minutes hand? They not proportional?

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    I'll post pictures as soon as I get the watches, meanwhile here's a mock-up. Obviously, with "England" underneath the logo "Great Britain" isn't needed beneath the 6.



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    The brand the came back.
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    Is there really no chance of a batch of 40mm Everest’s with that dial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Is there really no chance of a batch of 40mm Everest’s with that dial?
    You have to get enough people that want them. They take forever to move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    You have to get enough people that want them. They take forever to move.
    I know and understand the economics of why it’s being discontinued.

    I do struggle to understand why so few people buy at 40mm compared to 36mm; I found it much too small. Perhaps I need to buy a 36mm model again to see if I can get used to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    I know and understand the economics of why it’s being discontinued.

    I do struggle to understand why so few people buy at 40mm compared to 36mm; I found it much too small. Perhaps I need to buy a 36mm model again to see if I can get used to it!
    In the same boat here as regards 36mm. I think it´s a case of the size enhancing the vintage vibe and similarity with the inspiration model. Great news and all round combo IF you´ve the wrist for it.
    A 40 mm version with this logo, the finer second markers and other small improvements, would be a compelling package for me, but as has been said not economically. Maybe there´d be more of a market for 38-39mm by 46mm or so lug to lug version. But there´s so many other models in the pipeline, and could be splitting hairs.
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    I sport an almost 8" wrist yet enjoy wearing my Seiko "blue lagoon" 43.5mm and my Smiths Expedition and Baby Dreadnought both at 36mm, I've a liking for 38-40mm but some watches are simply too nice to miss out on, I'm lining myself up for the Smiths Navigator in black next although I'm very tempted by the 36mm Smiths Everest with the new logo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    I sport an almost 8" wrist yet enjoy wearing my Seiko "blue lagoon" 43.5mm and my Smiths Expedition and Baby Dreadnought both at 36mm, I've a liking for 38-40mm but some watches are simply too nice to miss out on.
    I know what you´re saying mate, only an 8 inch and a fraction wrist here. I tried the Expedition but it just looked too diddy on me, Mrs P thought the same. I wish it were otherwise...tried on one of those Rolex 36 mm OP´s, again just too small looking to be credible and they´d sold all the 39mm ones...now of course they´ve messed the new ones about so probably thwarted, sorry I digress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    I know and understand the economics of why it’s being discontinued.

    I do struggle to understand why so few people buy at 40mm compared to 36mm; I found it much too small. Perhaps I need to buy a 36mm model again to see if I can get used to it!
    It is not hard to understand at all, any watch below 38mm is extreme rare not many watch company do 36mm in the affordable price range, cause watch companies mostly aiming for ppl that desired 39-40mm and they produced 40mm instead 36mm, that's where the sales mostly is.

    In my opinion Size 36mm aimed at watch enthusiasts ppl, I in fact I struggle to find 36mm watch till I found out about timefactor.
    It is almost a niche market category.
    Hence I believe Everest 36mm is lot more high in demand than 40mm as most timefactor fans are total suckers for watches...
    For me I feel 36mm has more class than 40mm...it is unique and stand out among the crowd....
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    Quote Originally Posted by billa84 View Post
    It is not hard to understand at all, any watch below 38mm is extreme rare not many watch company do 36mm in the affordable price range, cause watch companies mostly aiming for ppl that desired 39-40mm and they produced 40mm instead 36mm, that's where the sales mostly is.

    In my opinion Size 36mm aimed at watch enthusiasts ppl, I in fact I struggle to find 36mm watch till I found out about timefactor.
    It is almost a niche market category.
    Hence I believe Everest 36mm is lot more high in demand than 40mm as most timefactor fans are total suckers for watches...
    For me I feel 36mm has more class than 40mm...it is unique and stand out among the crowd....
    No knock on you, mate but I get a chuckle when I hear "stand out from the crowd". How is everyone seeing others' wristwatches? Most are hidden by shirt sleeves - unless you're Bruno Agnelli!

    Cheers!

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    Indeed.... Or turning up 15 minutes late for parade... Ouch!

    (Got that t-shirt too.... sadly..

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    Just noticed that elderly gent´s also wearing his gaffas de sol in a rather idiosyncratic fashion also. groovy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post




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    Wahoo!


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    Looks great, is the crown a fraction larger, maybe it’s my eyes...

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    Looks great. Can't wait to order one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fashfunk View Post
    I was expecting Smiths England and nothing at the 6 o' clock. What's that? Smiths De Luke? Smiths De Luxe? What does it mean?
    De Luxe is the name that Smiths used historically for their best watches. The original Everest watch in 1953 was a Du Luxe model. This is an historically accurate addition. This is a great tweak: keeping 'Great Britain' and adding 'Du Luxe' really is the best of both worlds.

    Well done Eddie!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post




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    Awesome - any way to guarantee I get one at the weekend???


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    Quote Originally Posted by fm.tz View Post
    Awesome - any way to guarantee I get one at the weekend???


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    I think “book early to avoid disappointment” is the answer to that one!


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    It looks so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post




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    This new updated version is like Mary Poppins "perfect in every way". I have only one question........will the Everest Expedition also be available as well?

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    OMG, the hands have been improved as well. Hour hand is a bit longer, minute hand a bit thicker

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver centurian View Post
    This new updated version is like Mary Poppins "perfect in every way". I have only one question........will the Everest Expedition also be available as well?
    The Expedition was shipped today, should be here by Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The Expedition was shipped today, should be here by Thursday.

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    That is indeed wonderful news Mr Platts.Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fm.tz View Post
    De Luxe is the name that Smiths used historically for their best watches. The original Everest watch in 1953 was a Du Luxe model. This is an historically accurate addition. This is a great tweak: keeping 'Great Britain' and adding 'Du Luxe' really is the best of both worlds.

    Well done Eddie!!!


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    As someone who recently discovered the Smiths brand, this response was very helpful. I will say I liked England underneath the Smiths logo from the recent mockup but I understand the decision to go with De Luxe.

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    The updates are spot on, I’m sure I will be adding this one to the collection.

    Great work.


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    The hands are a touch larger? Slightly longer and larger hour hand and slightly thicker minute hand. The lume pip on the seconds hand also seems ever so slightly larger and set further back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason.humphrey.180 View Post
    The hands are a touch larger? Slightly longer and larger hour hand and slightly thicker minute hand. The lume pip on the seconds hand also seems ever so slightly larger and set further back.
    This is the way

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    I haven’t seen any confirmation that these will be available on Sunday but as they’re now on the website I’m going to assume they are.

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    Could somebody help me understand the following PRS-25 measurement:

    - 11.3mm think (as described on website)
    - 14mm think (from the technical drawing).

    I like thinner watches, so 14mm isn't great, where as 11.3mm is fine.


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    It's 11.3mm. The drawings are done very early in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    It's 11.3mm. The drawings are done very early in the process.
    Thanks.
    On review, it looks like the manufacturers have copied the 40mm case’s drawing onto a new 36mm case spec-sheet.


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    The classic logo really does it give it some extra character! How many pieces are normally ordered on every batch of these?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastadon View Post
    The classic logo really does it give it some extra character! How many pieces are normally ordered on every batch of these?


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    Someone correct me please, but I believe it’s 200.


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    Will it be the usual polite queue at 2pm ?..... Or a version of Murder ball do we think??...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fm.tz View Post
    Someone correct me please, but I believe it’s 200.


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    The minimum order is 300 but there's always a few rejected at the QC stage, this time I received 297.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The minimum order is 300 but there's always a few rejected at the QC stage, this time I received 297.

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    Thank you for the correction, Eddie!

    297 - so there’s a chance I’ll be able to get one in the melee on Sunday; I think the F1 GP start will be less excitedly fought over.


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    Will there be any of the white dial variants this time round?

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    I still plan to (attempt to) purchase a PRS-25 this weekend, but as a thought, what are peoples opinions on the hands? I’ve been looking at them for a while and I think that:
    - the minute hand is a touch too long and think, and
    - the hour hand is a touch too small and short.

    As a pair, they don’t seem balanced. I’d love love to hear other people’s opinions...


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    Quote Originally Posted by fm.tz View Post
    ...

    what are peoples opinions on the hands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fm.tz View Post
    I still plan to (attempt to) purchase a PRS-25 this weekend, but as a thought, what are peoples opinions on the hands? I’ve been looking at them for a while and I think that:
    - the minute hand is a touch too long and think, and
    - the hour hand is a touch too small and short.

    As a pair, they don’t seem balanced. I’d love love to hear other people’s opinions...


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    Do you mean the new hands or the previous ones? Do you need an even longer hour hand??

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    Quote Originally Posted by fm.tz View Post
    I still plan to (attempt to) purchase a PRS-25 this weekend, but as a thought, what are peoples opinions on the hands? I’ve been looking at them for a while and I think that:
    - the minute hand is a touch too long and think, and
    - the hour hand is a touch too small and short.

    As a pair, they don’t seem balanced. I’d love love to hear other people’s opinions...


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    The first version of the 36mm has better balanced hands and a nicer logo. IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    The first version of the 36mm has better balanced hands and a nicer logo. IMHO.
    IMHO the third version is the best.
    Last edited by abraxas; 8th September 2020 at 18:24.
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    PRS 25 open for purchase

    I do believe that on the whole the latest/3rd version of the 36mm is by far the nicest; it has the best bracelet, best logo, and a better movement compared to the others, but the minute hand does seem like it's from a bigger watch compared to the hour hand

    If the hour hand was scaled up so that it was just inside the hour markers and the minute hand was scaled down such that it just touched the inside of the minute markers, I reckon that +/- in proportions would balance them nicely.
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    Is it possible to get another set of new hands for the old model with our purchase of the new prs-25?


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    Quote Originally Posted by scram View Post
    No knock on you, mate but I get a chuckle when I hear "stand out from the crowd". How is everyone seeing others' wristwatches? Most are hidden by shirt sleeves - unless you're Bruno Agnelli!

    Cheers!
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    I’m ultra-excited about this. Fingers crossed I’m online at the right time.


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    Now that the older logo has returned, could we ever see a change to the boobs logo on the crown?


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    For those not on the email distribution list.

    All versions of the 36mm Smiths Everest are now in stock.

    36mm Smiths Everest black dial - https://www.timefactors.com/prs25black.htm

    36mm Smiths Everest white dial - https://www.timefactors.com/prs25w.htm

    36mm Smiths Everest Expedition - https://www.timefactors.com/prs25exp.htm

    I still have a few of the 40mm Smiths Everest and when they're gone, this model will not be re-stocked.

    https://www.timefactors.com/prs25new.htm

    I have stock of the recently launched "Baby" range and new stock of the Baby Dreadnought were received this week.

    36mm Baby Speedbird - https://www.timefactors.com/prs51.htm

    38mm Baby Dreadnought - https://www.timefactors.com/prs52.htm

    40mm Baby Willard - https://www.timefactors.com/prs25black.htm

    Ordering will open at 1400 hrs UK time on Sunday 13th September 2020 and will remain open for 30 minutes. I've received hundreds of enquiries asking for details of ordering all versions of the Everest so it's likely that many orders will be received and shipping of the later orders is likely to take up to 4 weeks.

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