Heathrow T5

[hotbaws]

Hi All,

I’ll have an hour and a half in T5 tomorrow before flying to Marseille and I’m hoping to pick up a Tudor Pelagos LHD am I in for a disappointment or will I be fortunate to find a shop who’s likely to have one?

Thanks


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[joe narvey]

Hi All,

I’ll have an hour and a half in T5 tomorrow before flying to Marseille and I’m hoping to pick up a Tudor Pelagos LHD am I in for a disappointment or will I be fortunate to find a shop who’s likely to have one?

Thanks


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Think you may be lucky. Suggest you email them to tell them what you want as given enough time they can move stock from other terminals.

WOSTerminal5@watches-of-switzerland.co.uk

Good luck

[Enda]

I got mine from WOS in Heathrow. I think it Might have been T3 rather than 5 but I’m sure they would have it in both.

[teeth man]

Go as soon as possible to WOS. If they don’t have it at T5 and they do at another terminal they could always bring it over for you. A watch that I bought took 45 mins to come from another terminal.

[hotbaws]

Thanks all, I’ll email them now.


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[hotbaws]

An appointment has been booked, they have a Pelagos LHD in stock but not a BB58 which was the other model I’d asked about although they offered to keep a GMT aside to view also.

Looking forward to it, are Tudor’s prices without the VAT?

Cheers


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[joe narvey]

An appointment has been booked, they have a Pelagos LHD in stock but not a BB58 which was the other model I’d asked about although they offered to keep a GMT aside to view also.

Looking forward to it, are Tudor’s prices without the VAT?

Cheers


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Tudor and Rolex will do they VAT off if flying out of the EU. Other brands will typically do approx 18% off regardless of destination.

[hotbaws]

Tudor and Rolex will do they VAT off if flying out of the EU. Other brands will typically do approx 18% off regardless of destination.

Thanks Joe, that’s a bugger as I’m only flying to the South of France not outwith the EU so that my plan on ice then to purchase and save the VAT


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[hotbaws]

Thanks for the advice this morning all, I’m please to say I now own my first Tudor



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[DigitalSeb]

Great acquisition!! Love this one - looking forward to seeing some shots on the beaches of Marseille



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[Robsmck]

Does the leftie pelagos have the roulette date wheel as standard? A nice feature IMHO.

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[joe narvey]

Thanks Joe, that’s a bugger as I’m only flying to the South of France not outwith the EU so that my plan on ice then to purchase and save the VAT


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And pricing ?

[stefmcd]

Thanks for the advice this morning all, I’m please to say I now own my first Tudor



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Lume plots look white, have they changed these from cream?

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[hotbaws]

Great acquisition!! Love this one - looking forward to seeing some shots on the beaches of Marseille



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Thanks Seb although I’ll be avoiding Marseille beaches with the COVID outbreaks, the the pool at the villa will do.


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[hotbaws]

And pricing ?

Managed to blag it for the VAT free price after saying I was travelling outside the EU (I know I’ll get a tongue lashing for it from some) I simply said my wife had the boarding passes and the salesman said no problem just tell me your destination/flight number and that was that....I couldn’t believe it was a straight forward as that to save £600+ on the purchase


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[joe narvey]

Managed to blag it for the VAT free price after saying I was travelling outside the EU (I know I’ll get a tongue lashing for it from some) I simply said my wife had the boarding passes and the salesman said no problem just tell me your destination/flight number and that was that....I couldn’t believe it was a straight forward as that to save £600+ on the purchase


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Congratulations. Suggest you call it what it was which is a discount, not VAT free.

Wear in good health.

[Boss13]

Pretty sure when I purchased at LHR it was indeed VAT free and not a discount on the receipt.

[Steve27752]

Managed to blag it for the VAT free price after saying I was travelling outside the EU (I know I’ll get a tongue lashing for it from some) I simply said my wife had the boarding passes and the salesman said no problem just tell me your destination/flight number and that was that....I couldn’t believe it was a straight forward as that to save £600+ on the purchase


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So you lied?

[number2]

Tax avoidance or tax evasion?

[Kingstepper]

Pretty sure when I purchased at LHR it was indeed VAT free and not a discount on the receipt.

Aren’t you then liable for VAT when you return?

[deepreddave]

Tax avoidance or tax evasion?

Clear tax evasion. Paying tax is a social and moral responsibility hence I always struggle to understand the selfishness of those who want to pay less than their share and publicise their willingness to commit tax fraud.

[number2]

Clear tax evasion. Paying tax is a social and moral responsibility hence I always struggle to understand the selfishness of those who want to pay less than their share and publicise their willingness to commit tax fraud.

Same conclusion I arrived at, the same people will scream and shout at benefit fraud or having their lawn mower stolen, all boils down to dishonesty.
List updated.

[joe narvey]

It would only be tax evasion if tax was due. Watches of Switerland sell tax free for qualifying travellers and tax free equivalent prices ( except for Tudor and Rolex). Perhaps it was a discount.

[Christian]

Did someone mention either counterfeit watches or VAT evasion...”Regulators, mount up!”

[Kingstepper]

It would only be tax evasion if tax was due. Watches of Switerland sell tax free for qualifying travellers and tax free equivalent prices ( except for Tudor and Rolex). Perhaps it was a discount.

Maybe not.

Pretty sure when I purchased at LHR it was indeed VAT free and not a discount on the receipt.

[joe narvey]

Maybe not.

[Kingstepper]

So anyone claiming it was VAT is wrong? Or maybe that was another store (are there even other stores?).

[Boss13]

Aren’t you then liable for VAT when you return?

Correct. If you are going abroad and buy it outbound, when you return to the UK (assuming, with the watch) it needs to be declared.

Unless the OP really did get a discount and paid the VAT? I guess best not to jump to conclusions - it will all be clear on the receipt!

[Christian]

Unless he posts a picture of the receipt showing it was a discount, I’d be disappointed in TZ-UK not to see 3 or more pages of outrage at tax avoidance.

I’m fearful of the day a new guy not knowing the two unwritten rules posts about how he picked up a VAT free watch on the way out on holiday and bought a counterfeit watch at a souk. That combination could be like a nuclear blast going off.

[deepreddave]

I appreciate the humour re forum outrage but think we need to call out fraud for what it is, just as we would any other potentially criminal offence, rather than suggesting it's acceptable.
Education is important as I've met many people who considered minor tax fraud acceptable until they appreciated it for what it really is, stealing from us all (including their family and friends).
Rant over

[cheesycake7]

If it was other brands, it’s plausible that they offered a discount to match the VAT free price for travellers within EU (as the margins on those brands are huge). But given it was a Tudor (and a fairly in demand model), it was more likely sold VAT free.

People who fly out of EU and don’t declare their watches on return are already Tax evading. Lying about leaving the EU further adds to show that this was a deliberate attempt.

The receipt should show a flight number out of EU, and if it was sold VAT free. And this will be clear to the customs/insurers/anyone who wishes to buy the watch in the future. Tread lightly, OP.

[Buster73]

Can any of our tax experts on this thread enlighten me who you’d actually declare the watch purchase to on re entry to the UK ?

Never seen a customs officer for a few years at my local airport.

I did declare some golf clubs purchased in the USA many moons ago, the two customs chaps were almost embarrassed that I’d brought it to their attention, however they were both travelling to the same area a few weeks later and asked for details of which shop I’d bought them at , before charging me a token £15 duty.

[Kash]

You go through the red lane, to declare, at a major uk airport. Either someone is there OR there is a phone you use to call.

This is what the OP should have done, instead im sure he went through the usual nothing to declare lanes.

Tax is due on this watch, it is not a discount on Tudor, as there is not VAT shown on the receipt. I bought a tudor this way before and declared it coming back, the VAT was then payable.

OP seems a little quiet now, hoping this thread disappears.

[Kingstepper]

you go through the red lane, to declare, at a major uk airport. Either someone is there OR there is a phone you use to call.

Quite, not difficult.

[Buster73]

You go through the red lane, to declare, at a major uk airport. Either someone is there OR there is a phone you use to call.

This is what the OP should have done, instead im sure he went through the usual nothing to declare lanes.

Tax is due on this watch, it is not a discount on Tudor, as there is not VAT shown on the receipt. I bought a tudor this way before and declared it coming back, the VAT was then payable.

OP seems a little quiet now, hoping this thread disappears.

I don’t think he’ll be bothered in the slightest to be honest, he made a decision, he knew what he was doing and no doubt he won’t lose any sleep over it or the criticism on here.

[Rodder]

It could be argued the amount of tax the government takes from him is well over 50%. Which, could be described as fascism. Fundamentally, taking an individuals wealth to discretionary give (redistribute) to others or waste on government inefficiencies and bureaucracy.

If the OP took this Money from an individual or company it would clearly be wrong, but from a government who takes more from him?