eBay seller - what a plonker!

[David_D]

Is the Day pate similar to the Day-Date?

Presumably it's a good starter for a collection.

That was a beauty, that one!!

[M1011]

What do we reckon? Sounds dodgy as hell to me. Member since 2021 and feedback of 3 all for purchases, no sales. Was a gift and doesn’t know what it’s worth….

Images look genuine but the outer box has 11661LB on the label.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Daytona-Panda-116500LN-white-IGNORE-STATING-PRICE-explained-In-Desc-/363634258139

“Rolex Daytona Panda 116500LN white IGNORE STATING PRICE,explained In Desc”

Description:

“Rolex Daytona Panda 116500LN white.


IGNORE THE STARTING PRICE, ebay won’t allow a higher starting price as I haven’t listed anything this expensive before.

A present a couple of years ago which I was going to keep for an investment but due to a break up I’d rather let the watch go now and have the money.

It comes with everything I received with it which I’ve shown in the picture.

I’ve only worn a couple of times in the house and one special occasion.

I’m not sure what the retail price was as it was a present but I understand due to it not being brand new as much I’m not going to get full retail price back.

Get in touch with any questions I’ll try get back to you as soon as I can, Bare in mind though I’m no watch expert but I’m happy to answer any queries.

Free postage

Thank you”

Quite cunning really. The below statements are clearly deliberate attempts to appear unaware of the true value of the watch, set the expectation he'd accept under retail and encourage direct contact.

What a conniving scumbag!

I’m not sure what the retail price was as it was a present but I understand due to it not being brand new as much I’m not going to get full retail price back.

Get in touch with any questions I’ll try get back to you as soon as I can, Bare in mind though I’m no watch expert but I’m happy to answer any queries.

[learningtofly]

Another stunning timepiece.

Bid while you have the chance!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Lad...e/254753399187

"Rolex Ladies Watch , Oyster Perpetual Day pate. Condition is "Used". Found in my old suutcase. Don't know much about it. Dispatched within 2,3 working days."

PM sent!

[Rev-O]

In 2007 I sold all of my investment/rental houses, at what turned out to be the top of the market. This was largely prompted by being told one morning, by the postman, and later that day, by a motor mechanic, that this was the time to buy. Within the week they were all on the market and sold promptly. There is currently one of them back on the market with an asking price of 65% of what I got 14 years ago.

Yes I bought in the 2008/9 crash. If you’d held on you’d be doing rather well now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57260261

[Michael 38]

Isn’t eBay new watch authentication service supposed to put a stop to this sort of thing apart of course from the ones that are real but are hotter than a Hollywood pornstar

[scooby]

The interesting thing with the Daytona is it is protected by eBays
authenticity guarantee
Makes you think !


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[David_D]

The interesting thing with the Daytona is it is protected by eBays
authenticity guarantee
Makes you think !

I assume the fraudster finds some reason not to go through the authentication check. He needs the money quickly and will knock a few £ off the price, etc.. Only takes one fool to bite and it’s easy money.

[M1011]

Isn’t eBay new watch authentication service supposed to put a stop to this sort of thing apart of course from the ones that are real but are hotter than a Hollywood pornstar

The interesting thing with the Daytona is it is protected by eBays
authenticity guarantee
Makes you think !

That authenticity programme only applies to watches sold through eBay for over £2,000.

Presumably this chap will be either taking an offer sub-£2,000, or finding a way to move the sale off of the eBay platform. Of course both things would put off the vast majority of half-way sensible buyers, but he only has to find one.

[Michael 38]

That authenticity programme only applies to watches sold through eBay for over £2,000.

Presumably this chap will be either taking an offer sub-£2,000, or finding a way to move the sale off of the eBay platform. Of course both things would put off the vast majority of half-way sensible buyers, but he only has to find one.

Cant see how he will get under the 2k limit as the bidding is already 11k but as you say he only needs one idiot that thinks he is getting the bargain of the century

[markrlondon]

Up to 18K now.

I'd love to see how he tries to move the payment off eBay when the time comes!

Discount if you pay via Western Union?

[M1011]

Cant see how he will get under the 2k limit as the bidding is already 11k but as you say he only needs one idiot that thinks he is getting the bargain of the century

Good point, I was looking at the price on the awful fake in the pic above and got them mixed up. He'll be looking to move the sale off eBay then, and guess he's found himself a whole bunch of potentially gullible eBay members to message now from the bidding history.

[markrlondon]

Good point, I was looking at the price on the awful fake in the pic above and got them mixed up. He'll be looking to move the sale off eBay then, and guess he's found himself a whole bunch of potentially gullible eBay members to message now from the bidding history.

Can you see underbidders nowadays? Last time I sold something iirc you could only see the identity of the winning bidder.

[M1011]

Can you see underbidders nowadays? Last time I sold something iirc you could only see the identity of the winning bidder.

I thought you could, but couldn't swear to it. Evidently I'd be a rubbish scammer...




( ...or perhaps this is all misdirection and secretly that's my Daytona for sale! )

[Mr Curta]

Yes I bought in the 2008/9 crash. If you’d held on you’d be doing rather well now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57260261

Not in NI. Tom did well.

[Rev-O]

Not in NI. Tom did well.

Ah, fair enough. If only there was a cute and cool portable machine for doing the sums on . . . . :-)

[David_D]

Different type of plonker but plonker nonetheless!

£4,800 watch for … £29,000.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-41-124300-Tiffany-Turquoise-Full-Set-2021-UK-Watch-/194627058191

[M1011]

Different type of plonker but plonker nonetheless!

£4,800 watch for … £29,000.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-41-124300-Tiffany-Turquoise-Full-Set-2021-UK-Watch-/194627058191

Particularly doesn't fill me with confidence when they have a company name on the listing and a company name for their eBay account, both limited companies, but not the same limited company!

[David_D]

Particularly doesn't fill me with confidence when they have a company name on the listing and a company name for their eBay account, both limited companies, but not the same limited company!

Superficially, the companies appear not to be connected although both giving a location in Stevenage. Nothing to particularly inspire confidence.

https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

The VAT registration number is for the company not being struck off, so that’s something.

[David_D]

You could have had this for £29,000. It’s gone up!!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-41-124300-Tiffany-Turquoise-Full-Set-2021-UK-Watch-/194638850630

[joe narvey]

You could have had this for £29,000. It’s gone up!!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-41-124300-Tiffany-Turquoise-Full-Set-2021-UK-Watch-/194638850630

It’s showing at £51k when I look.

[David_D]

It’s showing at £51k when I look.

Yes, my post above it was a bargain £29,000 a couple of days ago.

[David_D]

Why pay more than £40k??

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124300-The-New-Rolex-Oyster-Perpetual-41MM-Unworn-Turquoise-Tiffany-Dial-/275071964595

[David_D]

Just when you thought the Tiffany blue Rolex OP nonsense couldn’t get any worse!

This is the second “someone’s given the dial a paint” offering I’ve spotted on eBay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROLEX-DATEJUST-41-126300-TIFFANY-BLUE-CUSTOMISED-BY-HERCULES-WATCH-CO-2021-/325005770021

[M1011]

Just when you thought the Tiffany blue Rolex OP nonsense couldn’t get any worse!

This is the second “someone’s given the dial a paint” offering I’ve spotted on eBay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROLEX-DATEJUST-41-126300-TIFFANY-BLUE-CUSTOMISED-BY-HERCULES-WATCH-CO-2021-/325005770021

At least their honest about it. Someone would have to be mad to pay the price though, far as I'm concerned all they did was devalue the watch with that paint job!

[David_D]

December 2020 "grape" 39mm OP. So far so good. (Or not, at £10,000!)

But then "It has recently had a complete service with Rolex before selling as I wanted to ensure there was no problems with the watch before selling to someone else."

I mean, what on earth?! Either the watch had been very badly treated in the c 12 months since it was sold or ???

Rolex service department must have had a laugh at that one.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rolex-oys...-/224847775520

[JasH]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Daytona-Panda-116500LN-white-IGNORE-STATING-PRICE-explained-In-Desc-/363634258139

Poor buyer just lost £25k

[Ruggertech]

Poor buyer just lost £25k

Why's that? Yes the listing has red flags all over it, although at least the seller is correct in that ebay will put a ceiling on his starting price with his lack of history (which is a red flag in itself of course). I don't know enough about the watch to know if it is fake or not from the photos but it has to go to the authenticators first. I wouldn't risk it but to someone it's worth a gamble.

[Kingstepper]

Didn’t know there was a restriction on starting price for new buyers. What was it though, first bid I can see is £24,500 which is odd?

[Ruggertech]

Didn’t know there was a restriction on starting price for new buyers. What was it though, first bid I can see is £24,500 which is odd?

If you scroll down and click show more the starting price is revealed at £600.

[Kingstepper]

If you scroll down and click show more the starting price is revealed at £600.

Okay, opened in eBay app and wouldn’t go further than first page.

[Matt M]

Why's that? Yes the listing has red flags all over it, although at least the seller is correct in that ebay will put a ceiling on his starting price with his lack of history (which is a red flag in itself of course). I don't know enough about the watch to know if it is fake or not from the photos but it has to go to the authenticators first. I wouldn't risk it but to someone it's worth a gamble.

You'd have thought someone with a 116500LN kicking around might have googled "how to sell my extremely desirable Rolex" before chucking it on eBay.

[Ruggertech]

You'd have thought someone with a 116500LN kicking around might have googled "how to sell my extremely desirable Rolex" before chucking it on eBay.

Indeed, the listing raises many red flags as I mentioned. If I was in the market for a watch like that its definitely not the route I would take to ownership. I was just curious as to why the buyer would be losing 25k when the authenticity process is in place?

[David_D]

And another “ Tiffany “ Oyster Perpetual - not! £14,500!

“Custom Tiffany Dial with original Silver / Gold baton dial”. £4,700 for the watch and £5 for a pot of blue paint.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2021-Rolex-Tiffany-Oyster-Perpetual-41mm-124300-Full-set-/165367085541-2958-0

[David_D]

£249 for a completely knackered “vintage” case back.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224994758884

[David_D]

I suggested to eBay that there was just the hint of a chance that this might be a fake and someone trying to pull a £700 con but they’re apparently OK with it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355556905837

[PhilipK]

I suggested to eBay that there was just the hint of a chance that this might be a fake and someone trying to pull a £700 con but they’re apparently OK with it.

Probably just needs a new battery and it will be fine.

(I've also reported it, for what it's worth, although I've pretty well given up on reporting fakes to eBay or Gumtree, given how seldom they take any action).

[David_D]

Probably just needs a new battery and it will be fine.

(I've also reported it, for what it's worth, although I've pretty well given up on reporting fakes to eBay or Gumtree, given how seldom they take any action).

😁 Yes, I reported and they now send replies. They couldn’t see any breach of their terms. As long as you don’t write FAKE in the description, you’re good to go, it seems.

[PhilipK]

 Yes, I reported and they now send replies. They couldn’t see any breach of their terms. As long as you don’t write FAKE in the description, you’re good to go, it seems.

Just had a response from eBay - "We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent."

I wonder how many of us would need to report it before this listing got taken down? (And even so, there would be another thousand to take its place by tomorrow).

[Mouse]

Looks like it's been taken down now

[earlofsodbury]

I also reported it, so I guess weight of numbers did what thiefbay wouldn't do...

[David_D]

I also reported it, so I guess weight of numbers did what thiefbay wouldn't do...

Good! Well done TZ!

I’d reported a couple of others which they’d declined to remove but subsequently disappeared so I think you’re right.

[kace]

I reported it too. Seemed a pretty obvious scam given the price.