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    A viable watch box (product idea)

    Evening all,

    The title may seem a little odd, the word 'viable' can be used in a variety of ways but in this case it's the idea of making a product that's financially viable.

    Basically, I'm a cabinetmaker down in Dorset. My day to day is making built in furniture, cabinets, wardrobes, kitchens and so on. I absolutely love my job and I'm blessed to be able to operate even in times such as these, but as I actually have mentioned in the past on here, I'd really like to get a watch box going. All of my work is entirely bespoke, as those of you who have renovated houses you will know that no two walls in a house are the same! So essentially what I'd like to do is have something a little more linear to make, a product that isn't so taxing on the brain but still is something that exhibits the minimal mid century inspired furniture I like to make.

    So to the question of financial viability... Essentially, the main idea of this to construct it from Birch plywood. For those who don't know, Birch plywood has become rather popular in the last decade or so, it's that beautiful pale plywood with the many laminates on the end grain. It's essentially a furniture grade plywood that we (my brother and I) make all of our carcasses from and in some cases entire wardrobes and kitchens out of it. Here's an example just incase you don't know what I'm talking about:



    Further to this, joinery is a huge consideration. Making a fully mitred (joined at 45 degree) box is a great deal more time consuming than a simple butt joint, so the idea is to work this into the design itself, accentuating the end grain laminate of the plywood and using a range of chamfers and angled cuts to play with light and shadow on the piece to add interest.

    So to put this in perspective, a fully solid wood box, of traditional mitred construction with a spray lacquered finish I'd have to start at £400 for something measuring around 300mm x 200mm. To make this same box in the Birch ply, with a spray lacquered finish I could start at somewhere much more like £100 in the same size.

    I wouldn't say the box is any lesser in looks, function or strength being made in the plywood, what I essentially need to know is if this style of box is at all appealing to people? I appreciate it does suit a more mid century aesthetic, which does sit quite well at the moment, but it's not for everyone.

    Here are the initial renders I've drawn up. I've also added the idea of maybe painted side panels to suit, or even formica panels added (even more mid century!). The lid would be hinge via stainless pins through the side of the side panels, this would like be some kind of torx bolt so that it can be removed for the spray finishing.

    For the watch holders I think I'd go with some kind of cylindrical foam to keep it simple, maybe even some kind of coloured pipe lagging with a timber dowel core, thats to be decided but watch holders and dividers really add onto the price, so I'd have to work it out

    The reason I'm being so particular with the price is that I know this kind of thing isn;t the sort of thing everyone wants to invest in. I want to see if I can make something that's sustainably designed and still offers people the option of basic deciding any kind of size you like for this box - it is completely scalable and not limited by lengths of timber given how the plywood stock is so wonderfully consistent compared.

    This would be an item that's entirely made from scratch by me in the workshop down in Dorset, this isn't something I'm pitching to a manufacturer. It would even be sprayed in my sprayroom by me

    Obviously this is a for profit idea, and if I were to sell any via here I'd follow the dealer rules in SC








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    I've been looking for a decent box for ages and I quite like that, externally at least. It's tough and honest about what it is, instead of being a cheap veneer or having fake patina/bloody Lichtenberg figures applied to it or being covered in fake leather.

    Internally, that's where I want my luxury touches. I don't know how others feel about that but I want my watches to be sitting somewhere nice and comfortable. Maybe comfortable is the wrong word but you know what I mean. Somewhere nice like this: https://www.wolf1834.com/windsor-5-p...atch-box#93=18

    If I could get your box fitted out like that, to hold three watches, with real leather, I'd be all over it. Make it happen, you know it makes sense!

    (I'll happily take the orange/brown version, ta)

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    Does plywood like that off-gas anything ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    I've been looking for a decent box for ages and I quite like that, externally at least. It's tough and honest about what it is, instead of being a cheap veneer or having fake patina/bloody Lichtenberg figures applied to it or being covered in fake leather.

    Internally, that's where I want my luxury touches. I don't know how others feel about that but I want my watches to be sitting somewhere nice and comfortable. Maybe comfortable is the wrong word but you know what I mean. Somewhere nice like this: https://www.wolf1834.com/windsor-5-p...atch-box#93=18

    If I could get your box fitted out like that, to hold three watches, with real leather, I'd be all over it. Make it happen, you know it makes sense!

    (I'll happily take the orange/brown version, ta)
    Oh yes, I figured this would be where my main thinking would have to be,

    It's a little tricky because where I can I'd like to be able to make the entire thing myself - even the watch pillows. When making some shop fittings in the past I've been stung where certain elements specialist elements (rather like watch pillows) were all of a sudden unavailable a few months down the line when I came to make more of the same for another shop.

    One thing that comes to mind is this product that my local ironmongers have started trying to sell me, its essnetially full lengths of divider that you chop up into sections and can click together - the sample they showed me was rather impressive,

    This would mean I could make up a custom system for nearly any size and looks quite smart in the dark grey? I could also line the bottom of the box with a thing layer of closed cell that the divider can pop in over the top of..

    This is the product

    https://www.scfhardware.co.uk/produc...awer-dividers/

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    Quote Originally Posted by HookedSeven View Post
    Does plywood like that off-gas anything ?
    The Birch plywood we buy is all E1 rated, meaning it contains incredibly low levels of formaldehyde versus cheap plywood or MDF,

    You'll actually find that nearly all timber and many natural things (even completely untreated) gives off a degree of formaldehyde but these days the stuff we use is about as safe as it gets and these in incredibly low proportions.

    We also only use water based lacquer, again to keep down any kind of offgassing, although once cured nearly any kind of lacquer or finish is entirely food safe.

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    Sounds like a great idea. I've been looking at boxes for ages but don't want something made of fake leather or fake wood. Most things I've seen look like rejects from a 1990's superyacht!

    Something well made and honest like your boxes would be perfect.

    As the previous poster said, the insides make all the difference though. I appreciate they add to the cost, but they are probably the most important part of the box functionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejtrent View Post
    The Birch plywood we buy is all E1 rated, meaning it contains incredibly low levels of formaldehyde versus cheap plywood or MDF,

    You'll actually find that nearly all timber and many natural things (even completely untreated) gives off a degree of formaldehyde but these days the stuff we use is about as safe as it gets and these in incredibly low proportions.

    We also only use water based lacquer, again to keep down any kind of offgassing, although once cured nearly any kind of lacquer or finish is entirely food safe.
    Don’t misunderstand I know nothing of the subject, I just wondered whether anything that might accumulate in a closed box could damage plexi-crystals, or possibly even solvents affecting lubrication in watches that aren’t airtight. I guess if other box manufacturers don’t see problems then it’s unlikely that you would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HookedSeven View Post
    Don’t misunderstand I know nothing of the subject, I just wondered whether anything that might accumulate in a closed box could damage plexi-crystals, or possibly even solvents affecting lubrication in watches that aren’t airtight. I guess if other box manufacturers don’t see problems then it’s unlikely that you would.
    It's a valid question! Based on past experience I think they will be just fine :)

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    An idea of what those PVC dividers with a foam bed would look like, thinking on the pillows.

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    I am a joiner too (a great thing to be), and have dabbled a bit in watch boxing, but I came to the conclusion it would be hard not to charge too much.
    I didn't take it forward, and I like your approach

    Here is the watch box I prototyped. The handle is laminated (by me) sapele and oak, the box oak, the lids are automaotive leather offcuts recycled, bonded onto 3.6mm ply for shape.
    I was going for a high end toolbox look.



    I made some very effective watch "pillows" that were actually stands, a base, a side and a top all in wood, with a foam (cut precisely to size bought off Ebay) back on the watch section. It holds watches very well, but I suspect that sandwiching the wood in foam would be better.



    Here is how they fit into the box (lids removed as display mats, and drawer open)



    The drawer (for straps) is a bad idea, it is complicated and straps (which are not flat) kept getting caught in the drawer.



    The idea was also that if the owner decided he didn't want 10 watches any more, he could still use the box as a carry round toolbox (you can see the coin magnets in the central wall here, that hold the lids in place).



    Some possible easy value added suggestions, if I may?

    Veneered birch ply for a feature panel (lid?) may add significant value (oak, ash, maple and sapele are available).
    Alternatively, making the lid from a single solid hardwood board may add more too.
    Also, dying the birch can be very effective, rather than painting, as the grain is still visible.
    I did a hardwood table football table, and the pitch was green-dyed ash. It looked fantastic.
    Finally, branching into another mateiral can help, I used leather. The leather I had to hand was black, but a deep brown suits wood very well, and I would have used that if I had it.
    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    I am a joiner too (a great thing to be), and have dabbled a bit in watch boxing, but I came to the conclusion it would be hard not to charge too much.
    I didn't take it forward, and I like your approach

    Here is the watch box I prototyped. The handle is laminated (by me) sapele and oak, the box oak, the lids are automaotive leather offcuts recycled, bonded onto 3.6mm ply for shape.
    I was going for a high end toolbox look.



    I made some very effective watch "pillows" that were actually stands, a base, a side and a top all in wood, with a foam (cut precisely to size bought off Ebay) back on the watch section. It holds watches very well, but I suspect that sandwiching the wood in foam would be better.



    Here is how they fit into the box (lids removed as display mats, and drawer open)



    The drawer (for straps) is a bad idea, it is complicated and straps (which are not flat) kept getting caught in the drawer.



    The idea was also that if the owner decided he didn't want 10 watches any more, he could still use the box as a carry round toolbox (you can see the coin magnets in the central wall here, that hold the lids in place).



    Some possible easy value added suggestions, if I may?

    Veneered birch ply for a feature panel (lid?) may add significant value (oak, ash, maple and sapele are available).
    Alternatively, making the lid from a single solid hardwood board may add more too.
    Also, dying the birch can be very effective, rather than painting, as the grain is still visible.
    I did a hardwood table football table, and the pitch was green-dyed ash. It looked fantastic.
    Finally, branching into another mateiral can help, I used leather. The leather I had to hand was black, but a deep brown suits wood very well, and I would have used that if I had it.
    Good luck

    Dave
    Hey Dave, thanks so much for your insight,

    I love what you did with the leather on the top, I was thinking too about making a feature panel of the lid - initally Formica was the idea but I could definitely look into others. When I've done knifemaking in the past I tried lots of bits and bobs and you're right crossing materials can be a really excellent value add.

    I have ebonized Birch in the past, it does dye relatively well but certainly more tricky than your open poured timbers like Ash and Oak.

    I do a fair amount of veneer work but dont have my own press, i could definitely look at a small bag press though,

    Thanks again for your insight :)

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    Those dividers look useful. For foam liner material I'd suggest a closed cell foam which generally has a smoother surface and a more "finished" look. Something like a plastazote is often used in presentation cases and is available in various thicknesses and colours. No affiliation but available here for example.....

    https://www.efoam.co.uk/closed-cell-...ylene-foam.php

    I notice they also do 50mm (and other sized) foam cylinders, which may work if you wanted to make cushions.
    Quote Originally Posted by ejtrent View Post


    An idea of what those PVC dividers with a foam bed would look like, thinking on the pillows.
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    Managed to whip up a pro type this morning, angles changed a bit in places as they often do as you make something for real! Picked up that divider system and it was very nice to work with, the finish is excellent too!








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    And a lick of colour



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    Well, I like what you have done. I have been looking for a 4 watch box and, as someone has already suggested, I'm not keen on the 'superyacht' look!

    What are the dimensions of the one that you have just 'mocked' up?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddiex View Post
    Well, I like what you have done. I have been looking for a 4 watch box and, as someone has already suggested, I'm not keen on the 'superyacht' look!

    What are the dimensions of the one that you have just 'mocked' up?

    Thanks
    So I'd say the current pocket sizes are a little luxurious (from looking at my 40mm Citizen sitting in it), they currently are sitting at an aperture size of 140x65mm, It looks to me like a size of 120x55 would be more of a sensible size (as to not make the box too large. So the overall dimensions of the protoype are 400 wide x 170 deep and 120 high. With the slight shrinking of the watch pockets that would make a 5 pocket box, 350 wide x 150 deep and 120 high. To do a 4 watch box the dimensions would be around 295 wide x 150 deep and 120 high.

    What I will do is drawings for each proposed size just so customers can get an idea of the dimensions of each watch count!

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    I like it a lot. Great work!


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    Looks very interesting!

    Any chance for a version with a drawer for tools/straps etc? Or other possible solutions for storing such accessories?

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    I've always found the problem withe large watch storage boxes is they are hard to hide and make me feel less secure hiding them as a defence against a break in. I've always loved the idea of secret storage within furniture.

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    Looks great. Well made modern looking timber watch boxes are so hard to find. I’m not after mock vintage, shabby chic or burr walnut so this definitely does it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    I've always found the problem withe large watch storage boxes is they are hard to hide and make me feel less secure hiding them as a defence against a break in.
    This is my problem with watch boxes, i'm in the whats the point camp. unless it can fit in to an average sized home safe. But then it's likely to burn too much room that otherwise keeping them singularly wouldn't do.

    Where there is a real gap in the market is affordable solid locakable units that can be bolted down, are hard to get in to or hard to remove (and the deterrent only has to be in most cases enough to make it more of a hassle than anything) and with at least 2 winders inside, battery powered is fine.

    And yes i've seen the safes on the market for this but they start at 2 grand with a winder and some space for other watches and or docs up to £92k custom made by Wolf

    Has to be a cheaper alternative that's a strong lockable deterrent


    Sorry OP, not looking to derail and i think your box is great, save for my issue above but thats the principal of a watch box more than anything. I think this looks far better than Burr wood finishes from my dad's 1970 jag

    Simple, functional but think about an option to stick a lock on it and with 4 reinforced drill holes (say with a small thin metal plate on either side of the hole in the base at each corner so should someone choose to fix it to a wall inside their wardrobe
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    Quote Originally Posted by watch-nut View Post
    This is my problem with watch boxes, i'm in the whats the point camp. unless it can fit in to an average sized home safe. But then it's likely to burn too much room that otherwise keeping them singularly wouldn't do.

    Where there is a real gap in the market is affordable solid locakable units that can be bolted down, are hard to get in to or hard to remove (and the deterrent only has to be in most cases enough to make it more of a hassle than anything) and with at least 2 winders inside, battery powered is fine.

    And yes i've seen the safes on the market for this but they start at 2 grand with a winder and some space for other watches and or docs up to £92k custom made by Wolf

    Has to be a cheaper alternative that's a strong lockable deterrent


    Sorry OP, not looking to derail and i think your box is great, save for my issue above but thats the principal of a watch box more than anything. I think this looks far better than Burr wood finishes from my dad's 1970 jag

    Simple, functional but think about an option to stick a lock on it and with 4 reinforced drill holes (say with a small thin metal plate on either side of the hole in the base at each corner so should someone choose to fix it to a wall inside their wardrobe
    How about if the 'big box' has compartments which can protect the individual watches and be easily grsbbed out and carried off or shoved in the safe? I recently got a few glasses cases to store watches in, these ones https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rectangle...72.m2749.l2649 maybe size the box to fit this kind of thing in the compartments?

    Oh and I think you under estimate the noise and damage a scrote will do in just a few seconds to smack part/off the wall/open a locked box if they suspect its contents are valuable to them.

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    Have you considered a Peli case. Maybe not as attractive as your average watch storage solution, but they are bombproof, waterproof, can be stood on to gain a couple of inches when things are just out of reach. I have this one with custom foam inserts for 8 watches, when the lid is closed you could chuck it at a concrete wall and all would be well. Don't take my word for it though.

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    I like the peli case option with lock and 4 digit code:





    Mine has an area for tools both sides.

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    Sorry gents, but the OP is asking opinions on a hand made wooden box he is thinking of offering.

    You are now suggesting it is preferable to buy a mass-produced plastc case.

    Not really on topic is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Sorry gents, but the OP is asking opinions on a hand made wooden box he is thinking of offering.

    You are now suggesting it is preferable to buy a mass-produced plastc case.

    Not really on topic is it.
    You are of course correct. This is off topic and in reply to a question mid way through rather than the topic

    In terms of the topic, I personally do love a watch box and have had a number of varieties from wood, carbon Fibre look (regrettable) through to the mad produced tough storage.

    It looks like good quality and well made. I would prefer to see a good lock (personal preference as I am sure all are pretty easily broken off if someone really wanted)

    The individual watch sections do look a bit too big as mentioned, lining and foam would be key too IMO as some I have had have looked old quickly due to this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Sorry gents, but the OP is asking opinions on a hand made wooden box he is thinking of offering.

    You are now suggesting it is preferable to buy a mass-produced plastc case.

    Not really on topic is it.
    Hear hear!

    @ejtren I really like it, it's simple and looks nice. Only input I'd give is maybe it's a bit tall.

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    Can't believe people are proposing peli-cases on this thread - seriously! Anyway...

    I like it and would suggest that the compartments might not be overly large if designed to accommodate Panerai, DSSD's, etc (just a thought). I also think that a soft lining would be advantageous.

    Have you thought about offering a version with two levels (so potentially a ten-watch box)? That might make it a better value proposition for those on the fence cost-wise.

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    I've only scanned the thread so apologies if this has already been suggested, but the option to customise the top with a name, initials, etc, would be a nice touch.

    As for the interior, I own a wolf watch winder and while it works just fine it's glaringly obvious it's trying to look more premium than it is, with cheap materials underneath the faux leather, etc.

    I personally would favour a single insert of dense, closed cell foam, with several removable circular pieces in the same material. Fits better with the modern aesthetic too imo, and if you can find somewhere to manufacture them to your spec that would even allow for several options within the same internal dimensions - two watches and strap tray, 3 watches, 4 watches, etc.

    EDIT: e.g. dense foam insert that came with a Suunto watch of mine:

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    I thought this was the answer to my prayers, but then realised it has 5 slots and not 50 slots.
    Been looking for some more more like this for years now




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    Quote Originally Posted by ejtrent View Post
    And a lick of colour


    I like that a lot,smart but not ott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Can't believe people are proposing peli-cases on this thread - seriously! Anyway...

    I like it and would suggest that the compartments might not be overly large if designed to accommodate Panerai, DSSD's, etc (just a thought). I also think that a soft lining would be advantageous.

    Have you thought about offering a version with two levels (so potentially a ten-watch box)? That might make it a better value proposition for those on the fence cost-wise.
    I could definitely make it with two levels, the main thing I may not have conveyed well here is that I could essentially make it to any kind of size. The design benefit of using a readily available and consistent material (birch plywood) with an entirely modular divider system (modular in construction, not use though) means scaling the object would be very simple in both cost and size.

    So I guess what I mean is this is a design that I'm attempting to make easily scalable :-)

    I can produce renders of sizes and each box can be made in the same way, given there's no worry about complicated joinery or varying thickness and quality of stock material

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcleminson View Post
    I've only scanned the thread so apologies if this has already been suggested, but the option to customise the top with a name, initials, etc, would be a nice touch.

    As for the interior, I own a wolf watch winder and while it works just fine it's glaringly obvious it's trying to look more premium than it is, with cheap materials underneath the faux leather, etc.

    I personally would favour a single insert of dense, closed cell foam, with several removable circular pieces in the same material. Fits better with the modern aesthetic too imo, and if you can find somewhere to manufacture them to your spec that would even allow for several options within the same internal dimensions - two watches and strap tray, 3 watches, 4 watches, etc.

    EDIT: e.g. dense foam insert that came with a Suunto watch of mine:

    This is exactly the kind of thing id like to go for with the pillows, something functional but not DIY looking. Thanks for the picture of your Suunto pillow, will make it easy for me to approach suppliers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejtrent View Post
    I could definitely make it with two levels, the main thing I may not have conveyed well here is that I could essentially make it to any kind of size. The design benefit of using a readily available and consistent material (birch plywood) with an entirely modular divider system (modular in construction, not use though) means scaling the object would be very simple in both cost and size.

    So I guess what I mean is this is a design that I'm attempting to make easily scalable :-)

    This is exactly the kind of thing id like to go for with the pillows, something functional but not DIY looking. Thanks for the picture of your Suunto pillow, will make it easy for me to approach suppliers!
    A quick google suggests there are tons of firms out there that do closed cell inserts for packaging, jewellery, etc. I reckon they're a good compromise between simplicity of manufacture, cost-effectiveness and quality.

    I imagine if you went down the route of offering an infinitely scaleable box (essentially bespoke) then one-off costs for these inserts might be considerably higher than ordering inserts in numbers.

    I'd be inclined to start with a few set sizes of box with varying storage capacities, which you can then order an initial quantity of each insert for. If they prove successful and there's demand for other sizes, you could alway add to the range.

    That's essential what this guy's done, getting high density foam inserts made to fit a selection of standard Peli sizes:



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    So I just spoke to https://www.thecasefarm.co.uk/

    Oddly they are about 3 miles from my workshop!

    Essentially I was trying to get them to sell me some watch pillows but they were reluctant as I think it's not something they are set up for,

    The main company that sits alongside them is a custom manufacturer or foam packaging and the like, I imagine I could get in touch but I can see it being something like a min order of 1000 pcs or something!

    One thing they said they could do was sell me the inserts (with included pillows) as a whole, for a cost idea it was about £30 for their 6 watch size which would mean I essentially could do the same dimensions as their box, or I could get end up with 6 of thier pillows at £5 a pillow?

    It's food for though I guess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejtrent View Post
    So I just spoke to https://www.thecasefarm.co.uk/

    Oddly they are about 3 miles from my workshop!

    Essentially I was trying to get them to sell me some watch pillows but they were reluctant as I think it's not something they are set up for,

    The main company that sits alongside them is a custom manufacturer or foam packaging and the like, I imagine I could get in touch but I can see it being something like a min order of 1000 pcs or something!

    One thing they said they could do was sell me the inserts (with included pillows) as a whole, for a cost idea it was about £30 for their 6 watch size which would mean I essentially could do the same dimensions as their box, or I could get end up with 6 of thier pillows at £5 a pillow?

    It's food for though I guess!
    As one of the idiots reprimanded for putting a peli-case on the chain as an example, the Case farm is part of Peliproducts.co.uk if you were to got direct to the parent company there is
    a guy called Andy Hill who helped with mine at about 20% under the advertised price and and has always been more competitive on inserts for work. This is of course if it is now
    appropriate to discuss.

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    We have a breakthrough!

    The case farm guys have now made their pillows available to buy individually!

    https://www.thecasefarm.co.uk/shop/c...h-pillow-hard/

    https://www.thecasefarm.co.uk/shop/c...h-pillow-soft/

    I’ll get some on order..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejtrent View Post
    We have a breakthrough!

    The case farm guys have now made their pillows available to buy individually!

    https://www.thecasefarm.co.uk/shop/c...h-pillow-hard/

    https://www.thecasefarm.co.uk/shop/c...h-pillow-soft/

    I’ll get some on order..
    Nice, looking forward to see how it fits with the box

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    To the OP, I think this article gives some useful guidelines on watch box/case design, such as compartment dimensions et. I dont know how relevant it is to your project, but here it is anyway:

    https://watchesyoucanafford.com/how-...e-a-watch-box/

    I like your design but I'm not sure about the birch ply - it can sometimes look a bit anaemic to me. I'd prefer solid wood, but as you say that normally makes things prohibitively expensive ,so the birch could be a good compromise. I look forward to seeing the final prototype.

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    I think something modular would be good. By that I mean a box that can take another identical box on top, with some form of mechanism that allows the boxes to link together as one.....No doubt as a joiner you will know what I mean by Festool with the systainer system. Obviously not in plastic!! You could have something slim as a draw for straps/bracelets, with another to hold watches...

    just an idea.

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    Looking good. A 4 watch one would be a nice upgrade from my peli case

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    Did the pillows turn up - if so, what are the dimensions?
    In the Sotadic Zone, apparently.

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