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    I'll just leave this here



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    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Handsome piece!

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    What does that say on the dial Eddie? Looks like Conquistador?

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    Brushed CLs? Is so, then like that. And if the lugs aren't overly long, like the Omega, then Double Plus Good.

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    Just stick it in the 'Baby' Willard case, change the bezel insert, and I'll take it with me

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    Bezel doesn’t work....it needs to be narrower and without the insert. Presently it just looks like a Ranchero with some spare parts stuck on. (Harsh maybe but honest feedback is better than a*** kissing)

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    I'd be in for this. No doubt. Love the style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcleminson View Post
    What does that say on the dial Eddie? Looks like Conquistador?
    I think so.

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    Very nice.
    Black 3, 6, 9 and 12 on the cream dial, with blued hands for clarity?
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    Ps maybe a white second hand too on the black dial version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Very nice.
    Black 3, 6, 9 and 12 on the cream dial, with blued hands for clarity?
    Dave

    Ps maybe a white second hand too on the black dial version?
    I agree. Very subtle changes are needed. 40mm case too...........................I'm in!

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    I love that, Eddie.

    If you have to undertake any changes, please make them minor as I think it looks superb.

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    A lovely looking thing, but too straight up '57 Omega Seamaster 300 for me.
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    Way better than the earlier version with the controversial lugs however I agree that version A is a bit too close to the Seamaster 300.

    I do still like the case, lugs and bezel on this one though. One thing I would bring from the previous version B is the blue hands.

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    Very, very nice but again, a bit too close to the Seamaster 300 for me personally. Haven't you ever considered remaking one of the old Smiths divers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    Very, very nice but again, a bit too close to the Seamaster 300 for me personally. Haven't you ever considered remaking one of the old Smiths divers?

    Thats a very good shout

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    I think both the Conquistador and the Sea-Serpent look great.

    I can't really understand the complaints about the bezel (?) and think the Count-down, rather than Time-lapse makes an interesting alternative to the norm.

    Yes, it does look similar to a Seamaster 300 - but that was harking back to an old design as is this.

    The Seamaster is £5,650 - whereas, using the Everest prices as a yard-stick, this would probably be £350-£450 (maybe a bit more as no-doubt Miyota's prices have gone up)?

    Timefactors watches are great quality - so IMHO offer exceptional value for money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    ......Haven't you ever considered remaking one of the old Smiths divers?

    Yes, yes, yes!

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    Making a copy of a discontinued watch like the IWC is one thing - but this is a straight copy of a current Omega model (the 1957 Seamaster). Not sure this the the best way to 'build up' the Smiths brand - lets have a bit of originality somewhere .... or is it just going to be a homage brand now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    Very, very nice but again, a bit too close to the Seamaster 300 for me personally. Haven't you ever considered remaking one of the old Smiths divers?

    If you do can we have all four lugs please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy67 View Post
    If you do can we have all four lugs please.
    Hahahaha - missed that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy67 View Post
    If you do can we have all four lugs please.
    Wow, you're such a Smiths noob! Have you never heard of the famous Twin-lug Smiths diver before? For all you other Smiths philistines out there, I have added a couple of extra lugs for you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    Very, very nice but again, a bit too close to the Seamaster 300 for me personally. Haven't you ever considered remaking one of the old Smiths divers?

    Yes, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    Very, very nice but again, a bit too close to the Seamaster 300 for me personally. Haven't you ever considered remaking one of the old Smiths divers?

    All good except for the minute hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by estoban7 View Post
    All good except for the minute hand.
    Together with the hour and seconds hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampoc View Post
    Very, very nice but again, a bit too close to the Seamaster 300 for me personally. Haven't you ever considered remaking one of the old Smiths divers?

    I'd love to see this developed by Eddie. It's fantastic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    I'd love to see this developed by Eddie. It's fantastic!
    So would i, seriously cool watch this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradiddle View Post
    One thing I would bring from the previous version B is the blue hands.
    completely agree with that

    I like the overall watch, yep it looks like an SM300, but im a bit so what, i like it so id probably buy it

    Like the lugs this time around and the 40mm, ticks a lot of boxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughtrimble View Post
    A lovely looking thing, but too straight up '57 Omega Seamaster 300 for me.
    ^^ This, it's such a distinctive bezel, dial and handset it makes it look like there is not enough 'Timefactors' in it.

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    Please make this happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SussexScots View Post
    Please make this happen...
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    I’m 100% liking this....


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    Nice watch but I will pass on anything dive watch related. I really like the field/military genre.

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    Looks good 👍

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    That’s a good looking watch!

    I’m strangely drawn to the white/cream face, especially if it did have heat blued hands.

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    Apologies if this is a daft question, but can someone point me in the right direction to explain the significance of the reverse numbering on the bezel.
    Ta.

    Love the look of the watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maysie View Post
    Apologies if this is a daft question, but can someone point me in the right direction to explain the significance of the reverse numbering on the bezel.
    Ta.

    Love the look of the watch.

    It's a "countdown" bezel, so that the minute hand can be used to indicate remaining minutes before a specified time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    It's a "countdown" bezel, so that the minute hand can be used to indicate remaining minutes before a specified time.
    Thank you, I thought that might be it.
    Last edited by Maysie; 19th June 2020 at 16:35.

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    Most elegant, has a movement been decided upon?

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    Love the dual/hands/lugs/bracelet.


    Not keen on the bezel/ insert.

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    Gutted! But this would be straying into the realms of copyright infringement I guess?


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    I like it. I know it's a tall ask, but please some how add a jumping hours feature. The Omega Seamaster version has this, and it allows the watch to be used as a travellers watch. A watch like this, done well, can be a "one watch to rule them all" type watch that you can wear everywhere, including travelling and vacations. Also the watch should have an antimagnetic cage ;-)

    I would buy the Omega version of this despite the cost, except I don't like the coaxial as that has serious design flaws. If you made this with an antimagnetic cage, and a jumping hours hand (and preferably with the date that jumps forward or back too), I would 100% buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    Gutted! But this would be straying into the realms of copyright infringement I guess?


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    I've got a vintage Hamilton with the same bezel design, well it would if one wasn't missing but it was meant to have the same design.

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    This does raise an interesting question about Smiths going forward - Eddie has talked about building up the brand, but what will that brand be or stand for in the future?

    It could simply become a 'copy-cat' brand like Steinhart - taking a classic watch, copying it and putting Smiths on the face. There is probably brand awareness and money to be made in that direction, but it would not interest me and I hope Eddie does not move in that direction with the precious Smiths name. If that's a plan, fair enough but I'd use one of the other brand names.

    To my mind, it would be much better if Smiths continued in the direction of the PRS 29, Everest expedition and the new Navigator watch. In other words, remake or re-imagine old Smiths designs, first and foremost, or at the very least imagine a watch that Smiths might have made, if they'd stayed around. If there are to be 'homage' watches, make them homages of watches that were made at a time that Smiths was making watches, and for a similar purpose (to me that's the essential link between the PRS 29 and the Navigator).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shubs View Post
    This does raise an interesting question about Smiths going forward - Eddie has talked about building up the brand, but what will that brand be or stand for in the future?

    It could simply become a 'copy-cat' brand like Steinhart - taking a classic watch, copying it and putting Smiths on the face. There is probably brand awareness and money to be made in that direction, but it would not interest me and I hope Eddie does not move in that direction with the precious Smiths name. If that's a plan, fair enough but I'd use one of the other brand names.

    To my mind, it would be much better if Smiths continued in the direction of the PRS 29, Everest expedition and the new Navigator watch. In other words, remake or re-imagine old Smiths designs, first and foremost, or at the very least imagine a watch that Smiths might have made, if they'd stayed around. If there are to be 'homage' watches, make them homages of watches that were made at a time that Smiths was making watches, and for a similar purpose (to me that's the essential link between the PRS 29 and the Navigator).
    It’s definitely good to see the Smiths brand in designs that the original company had, or military contract designs they were in the running for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shubs View Post
    This does raise an interesting question about Smiths going forward - Eddie has talked about building up the brand, but what will that brand be or stand for in the future?

    It could simply become a 'copy-cat' brand like Steinhart - taking a classic watch, copying it and putting Smiths on the face. There is probably brand awareness and money to be made in that direction, but it would not interest me and I hope Eddie does not move in that direction with the precious Smiths name. If that's a plan, fair enough but I'd use one of the other brand names.

    To my mind, it would be much better if Smiths continued in the direction of the PRS 29, Everest expedition and the new Navigator watch. In other words, remake or re-imagine old Smiths designs, first and foremost, or at the very least imagine a watch that Smiths might have made, if they'd stayed around. If there are to be 'homage' watches, make them homages of watches that were made at a time that Smiths was making watches, and for a similar purpose (to me that's the essential link between the PRS 29 and the Navigator).
    Broadly feel the same (for example I find the PRS-68 just too much of a homage), but I think the reimaginings are great and I particularly enjoy the philosophy behind the Aerotimer (one of which I bought in SC recently and I adore it), which is a sort of homage to something obscure that only real deep watch saddos (like most of us!) appreciate. I know it's not a Smiths but, rather like the PRS-36, which i also have and love, it's paying tribute to something which isn't well known and that gives it a special character all of its own. More reimaginings of rarities please!

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    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    I really like that. Is this the Blue Bay 58 version? ;-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    Lovely !!


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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    That does look very nice - and nothing like an Omega 😜

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