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    New Nivada Grenchen Chronomaster And Antarctic

    The rebirth of Nivada Grenchen with new versions of the Chronomaster and Antarctic . "Cult favourite watches at back-to-basics prices" .

    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ni...ic-introducing





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    Like those.

    *scans article looking for prices*

    1.5 - 2k. Not that basic.

    Damn it.

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    Top, middle, very nice.

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    I am very interested in these and for a first I am drawn to a white dial Chronograph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MADDOG View Post
    Top, middle, very nice.
    I concur. That price though...

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    Ha! I own an original Chronoking version of the top-middle chrono. With the Valjoux 23 movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    Like those.

    *scans article looking for prices*

    1.5 - 2k. Not that basic.

    Damn it.
    <Yorkshire> Ow mooch?!</Yorkshire>

    Nivada is just a brand name owned by one of the big Chinese factories now, hence why they just have the word "Swiss" on them - the old ambiguous not-quite-a-lie...

    Guess it's a "buy-it-if-you-love-it" scenario, cos those'll be worth 10-20% of cost the moment your card's swiped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    <Yorkshire> Ow mooch?!</Yorkshire>

    Nivada is just a brand name owned by one of the big Chinese factories now, hence why they just have the word "Swiss" on them - the old ambiguous not-quite-a-lie...

    Guess it's a "buy-it-if-you-love-it" scenario, cos those'll be worth 10-20% of cost the moment your card's swiped.
    Is it? I thought it was bought over by two French watchmakers from previous owners who were based in Mexico.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pro...renchen/%3famp

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    <Yorkshire> Ow mooch?!</Yorkshire>

    Nivada is just a brand name owned by one of the big Chinese factories now, hence why they just have the word "Swiss" on them - the old ambiguous not-quite-a-lie...

    Guess it's a "buy-it-if-you-love-it" scenario, cos those'll be worth 10-20% of cost the moment your card's swiped.
    Aye.

    A pre-owned SMP 2264 is a virtually free ownership proposition at around that price.

    Perhaps I'm getting old.

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    Not sure how people are complaining about the price. Around 1350 for a mechanical chrono with swiss movement isn't what I'd call 'toppy'

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    ^Think it's more the description of back-to-basics prices.

    Conjures up own brand supermarket goods, not €2k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    ^Think it's more the description of back-to-basics prices.

    Conjures up own brand supermarket goods, not €2k.
    Ah fair enough, agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Is it? I thought it was bought over by two French watchmakers from previous owners who were based in Mexico.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pro...renchen/%3famp
    Ah! The plot thinnens! This sort of a thing is what I was thinking of.

    FWLIW, about a year ago I started keeping a log of the huge number of different watch brands - at that point ebay was replete with Nivada-branded Chinesium, as above, now I see it's mostly gone - wonder if our French chums are actively enforcing their trade mark?

    So, yeah, price doesn't look so daft now.

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    Those chronographs look nice although you could probably buy an original for similar money
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    Myself I would hunt out an old one for sure. But the new white one is nice. Cracking little chronographs, the originals came with a number of different movements and there was even a Paul Newman font dial version (very rare).
    I guess the cream would be a valjoux 23 with Newman dial. Here’s my early one with a valjoux 92 and big arrow hand set.

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    I think these are finally ready.
    Anyone thinking of taking a plunge?

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    I think the 3 hander is a hugely wasted opportunity - they have sort of got the dial right but the other elements are the chamfered lugs which they've missed outright. In any case this always makes me look at the back catalogue.




    I need to take a better picture of the 2nd one as it also has massively-chamfered lugs. And then I suppose I should get them off to a watchmaker.
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    I have one incoming the rep told me it was shipping January 10. The website has now removed the coming soon - shipping December so it looks like they are shipping now the wait continues.

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    Not so keen on the modern reincarnations, but the name is fantastic!

    Nivada Grenchen

    I had a quick look at the history supplied online by NG, and interested to see the tie-in with Croton, of which my Father had an Aquamatic of theirs.

    Seems like a few companies were advertising association with adventures in the late 40s/early 50s


    Reviving the Glory of Nivada GrenchenNivada timepieces have been in the watchmaking industry since 1926, the year when Jacob Schneider first created it in Granges (Grenchen). In 1976, his son Max took over the business. In the United States of America (USA), the Croton Company distributed all Nivada watches. The timepieces can have either the Nivada or Croton signature, or both.
    In 1930, Nivada was one of the first companies to manufacture automatic watches. This led to the creation of Nivadas first waterproof automatic watch called the Antarctic in 1950. The watch was worn by the members of the American Navys Deep Freeze 1 during their expedition to the South Pole from 1955 to 1956.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwatch126 View Post
    Myself I would hunt out an old one for sure.

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    That is lovely.

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    I have one of these inbound from Hodinkee. Will post pics when it lands.

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    Great to see them back. A good start too.

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    Here we go. Thrilled with it. Better than hoped.

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    Looks great, Ryan. Very faithful to the original. Good thing they kept the size close to the original too. Not sure about the bracelet, but there are plenty of options that will look good on this. Is it automatic or hand wound?

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    Definitely a fan of the originals. If it wasn’t for the rapidly disappearing sun I’d have tried to get a better photo (and one with no weeds in the background).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50kopek View Post
    Looks great, Ryan. Very faithful to the original. Good thing they kept the size close to the original too. Not sure about the bracelet, but there are plenty of options that will look good on this. Is it automatic or hand wound?
    Bracelet I like as it is riveted stretch link and very retro. I put it also on a leather strap. Movement is manual wind

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Bracelet I like as it is riveted stretch link and very retro. I put it also on a leather strap. Movement is manual wind

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    Ive got a small stash of NOS seventies rivet bracelets so Ill do a swap over in the morning and post a pic or two.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HookedSeven View Post
    Ive got a small stash of NOS seventies rivet bracelets so Ill do a swap over in the morning and post a pic or two.

    Awesome! Would love to see that

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Awesome! Would love to see that

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    I’d love to see it too. I’ve come across some stubborn springbars in my time but this really takes the biscuit. So half-half is the best I can do !


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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Here we go. Thrilled with it. Better than hoped.

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    Top marks to you for going ahead and getting it. I have thought about it often and was waiting for Jk103 to post his impressions but he seems busy. Hope all well with him.
    It looks good but 39 mm diameter bothers me.
    Anyway, a couple of months ago I paid up for their Depthmaster which is supposedly shipping in August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    Top marks to you for going ahead and getting it. I have thought about it often and was waiting for Jk103 to post his impressions but he seems busy. Hope all well with him.
    It looks good but 39 mm diameter bothers me.
    Anyway, a couple of months ago I paid up for their Depthmaster which is supposedly shipping in August.
    38.3mm. It bugged me too but it works as it wears bigger. I prefer it on strap in hindsight

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    Quote Originally Posted by HookedSeven View Post
    I’d love to see it too. I’ve come across some stubborn springbars in my time but this really takes the biscuit. So half-half is the best I can do !

    Ha! Don't lose any fingers. Looks great - you've set a new fashion trend!

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    The only thing that bugs me is why oh why did they put a sapphire crystal in. Bit lazy to me, plexi would be much more authentic and given the attention to detail elsewhere on the watch I can only think the manufacturer thought it would be a good ifea to put a sapphire glass but really a plexi crystal would have looked much better

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    The only thing that bugs me is why oh why did they put a sapphire crystal in. Bit lazy to me, plexi would be much more authentic and given the attention to detail elsewhere on the watch I can only think the manufacturer thought it would be a good ifea to put a sapphire glass but really a plexi crystal would have looked much better

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    My dilemma is should I get it from Nivada or wait for you to flip?:-)
    I do agree a Plexi would have been more in keeping with the theme.

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    Those new Nivada look really great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAJEN View Post
    My dilemma is should I get it from Nivada or wait for you to flip?:-)
    I do agree a Plexi would have been more in keeping with the theme.
    Ha! You know what I think I'll keep this. For sure it is a LOT of watch for the money. Probably don't lay out the extra for the rivet bracelet - there's a reason rivets are out of fashion and that's because they are garbage. Get it on a tropic and invest 30 or so on a Rallye and job done. Super watch and joins the Hanhart ES in being a great value historical re-edition.

    Make sure you get involved in the Aquastar rerelease - that again is a LOT of watch for the money (La Joux Perret Column Wheel Chrono). Also Aquastar Poseidon GMT is ridiculously under priced for what you get.

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    Last edited by ryanb741; 5th May 2021 at 22:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Ha! You know what I think I'll keep this. For sure it is a LOT of watch for the money. Probably don't lay out the extra for the rivet bracelet - there's a reason rivets are out of fashion and that's because they are garbage. Get it on a tropic and invest 30 or so on a Rallye and job done. Super watch and joins the Hanhart ES in being a great value historical re-edition.

    Make sure you get involved in the Aquastar rerelease - that again is a LOT of watch for the money (La Joux Perret Column Wheel Chrono). Also Aquastar Poseidon GMT is ridiculously under priced for what you get.

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    I have the Aquastar. It is fantastic.
    I was thinking more in terms of the BOR bracelet.
    Not worried about straps. Have a bunch of tropics in different colors. Somehow Rallye is not my thing.

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    The white chrono is nice-ish, not sure if it's 2-large nice, I like the medallion caseback.

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    I just landed this vintage Chronoking from a fellow forum member.
    It is a superb watch on the wrist - killer looks, Valjoux 23 movement & 38mm is such a great size (for me) - what's not to like! .

    The new version looks very faithful to the original design that is now sitting on my wrist.


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