Reply With QuoteFingers crossed...
Just received notification from the hosting service about the move to a cloud server.
EddieHello Eddie,
Just an update on this, I'll work on getting things moved this evening from approximately 9pm onwards I will do my best to keep downtime to a minimum, although there will be roughly 10 minutes of outage whilst the IP addresses are swapped around, I will of course update you again when this has completed.
Kind Regards,
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Fingers crossed...
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
As much as I like the place - I'm sure we'll cope.
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
It never rains but it pours.
I can actually have an enforced break from the viewing/refreshing sales corner. I wonder what i should do instead.....
Moving to cloud based staircase is the way, shouldn’t take long at all Eddie we migrate systems with millions of data points in a matter of minutes
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Initially misread this as "FORUM OUTRAGE TONIGHT"
Faintly disappointed.
It’s ok - you can go to the bear pit and see that before 9pm and again after 9:10 👍Originally Posted by FrontierGibberish
has something changed,i can now get onto watchtalk ,having struggled for ages
That went as planned
There's a reason I posted "fingers crossed" ;)
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Ten minutes lol 😂
And we're back! Hurrah!
I was beginning to think I was on the naughty step!
You were saying?
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
Hooray!!
Normal service has resumed.
I'm interested that you chose the word 'normal'.
Ditto, thought I'd been banned. I was so desperate I nearly logged in to Piston heads!!
Interesting that the BP spats have just picked up where they left off...
Optimism?I'm interested that you chose the word 'normal'.
Phew! For a while I thought I’d logged on as Cilla!
Ha ha famous last words, seriously it’s not that hard most of the timesorry everyone.. especially you Eddie I may have tempted fate
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Ahhhh - that explains it - also wondered if I’d done something wrong!!
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Haha, I only login in the evenings so haven't noticed anything except SC being a bit quiet.
Typical example of how poor the computer geeks are at managing change, the concept of 'right first time' doesn`t exist in their world.
It was the same 20 years ago, nothing improves.
Whoever managed the server change needs a KUTA*
(*Politically incorrect 70s acronym for kick up the arse).
And every watch you ever worked on was 'right first time', I suppose? Mistakes happen in all professions.
Almost makes you want a refund doesn’t it? Oh, wait...
No need for the sarcasm. If I was Eddie I`d be furious, a 10 minute outage ends up with the forum being a wreck. What is wrong with these people, surely migrating a server is straightforward thesedays?
As for watches I work on being right first time, in over 95% of cases that is correct. For watches that leave my premises that figure is 99%, bearing in mind I work on some basket cases that's not bad going for a guy who's had minimal professional training. It's all about care. attention to detail, and attitude.
When I had a proper job I was frequently involved in changes involving experimental manufacture in a chemical environment, if we hadn`t got it right first time the consequences could've been dire. We had systems in place that worked and safeguarded against failure. That's why I despair at the way the geeks work, if computer/software changes were needed on the plants I worked on the outcome was never successful without lots of troubleshooting because the geeks always got it wrong. I think its a cultural thing, but I would expect things to be much better thesedays.
Never trust the geeks, I learned that a long time ago.
Last edited by walkerwek1958; 2nd June 2020 at 20:35.
That's OK. No offence taken.
I was going to say, I hope PTG doesn't read that.
Damn cheek. Some of my best friends Pretty much everyone I know is geeky about something.
Murphy’s law #1: If anything can go wrong, it will
Many things can indeed go wrong, and it’s a massive site. Overall they had a problem but they solved it well. I’d rather give kudos than kutas in this case.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Way back in the 70s, when computers were very novel, we always referred to the folks who worked on them as 'the geeks'. They tended to be somewhat unusual characters to say the least.
Whatever it was it caused a run on the club and all the bloody malt ran out!
At the end of the day, nobody is saving lives on here - so a few people on the internet didn’t get to talk about watches for a few hours. Inconvenient, and a bit frustrating is pretty much the extent of it.
Things can always go wrong with deployments, all you can do is plan, and try to mitigate the risk as much as possible - and if it does go pear shaped, fix it!
The world kept turning, and now all is well again. Am sure we will all enjoy the long term benefit of the switch to newer tech.
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Superlative irony
The forum was down for a few hours. Even if it were down for a total of 24 hours every year (and I suspect that the downtime is an awful lot less than that), it would still only equate to 0.274% downtime. Or, to put it another way, around 99.73% uptime.
The geeks are doing a lot better than the watchmakers, aren't they? :-)
I think you’ve joined the wrong forum. This isn’t the place for level-headed reason.
1958 BEST YEAR EVER!
Originally Posted by walkerwek1958
As for watches I work on being right first time, in over 95% of cases that is correct.
Next time there's a fight, we could do with someone like you to help diffuse it. It tends to be handbags mostly, but some of them are more serious. Shouting in CAPS, poor grammar, the lot.
Have you seen the film Road House? It's a bit like that but set in an AD rather than a bar.
Can someone explain why changing from one server to another, in the year 2020, is difficult?
The forum fell over, it failed to function for several hours, hardly a seamless transition. Turn the clock back 15 years and it would've been no surprise, but I genuinely thought the game had moved on.
Plenty of reasons but better to focus on the fact it's here now and you can put the brown paper bag down. Everything will be ok
Did I miss something??? Seriously - I would not have noticed had this notice not been posted.
Seems the BP has moved into WT along with the cloud hosting service?
Hope this helps?
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azu...deployment-faq
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I’m glad you got it fixed. Started to get wonder if it was something I said?
Nothings ever simple, but have you noticed, it’s often a Random Tuesday that the fan gets hit with it?
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I genuinely hope it's not Azure...
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Nice comparison - I haven’t seen Road House in ages. Watched it when I was about 15 and thought it was amazing. Not sure the years will have been kind to it though!
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The forum database is huge and when it was migrated, it somehow doubled up on the tables. Fortunately there was a backup taken immediately before the migration. The reason it took so long to bring it back online was because they wanted to understand what had gone wrong before trying again.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Can't we ban that bloody pic, it really has been done to death.
Just out of vulgar curiosity really, but how huge is 'huge' in the case of the underlying datatbase?
Is it just me but I cannot change the order of posts? I used to always go to date first posted so that I could ensure I saw them all but now it says I have requested an invalid forum.
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