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    Fake planet ocean

    I’m not great at these things but a thread on WUS highlights this as a fake. Thought I’d post here too in case it is and someone was thinking about bidding.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Sea...-/224018074978

    Prob worth reporting to eBay if it is a replica/fake.

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    Reported- Out of interest, I wonder how many times an item has to be reported as counterfeit before flea bay starts to act.

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    PLEASE DO NOT WAIST MY TIME !

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    Link to thread? Would like to see the “tells”. Seems high quality.

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    If that’s a fake, it’s an amazingly good one. Have you got a link to the thread?

    Cheers,

    Plug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug View Post
    If that’s a fake, it’s an amazingly good one. Have you got a link to the thread?

    Cheers,

    Plug
    I think the biggest , instant tell , for me anyway , is the helium valve - it’s lined up perfectly with ‘10’ where it should be offset slightly

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    I've noticed over the years that Planet Ocean is a highly faked watch that always seems to cause trouble because of the quality of the fakes duping people.

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    Obvious fake by the way. You only have to google the serial number 88998668 to see countless "replica" POs with the same serial number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by back to the top View Post
    I think the biggest , instant tell , for me anyway , is the helium valve - it’s lined up perfectly with ‘10’ where it should be offset slightly
    That's the first thing to look at when contemplating fakes of this model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 893bet View Post
    Link to thread? Would like to see the “tells”. Seems high quality.
    Here is the link

    Very well made replica omega on ebay from seller “shasai_27”
    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

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    There are 3 different dates on the pictures too which Imsee as odd. Surely if your selling something you’d take the pics on the same day?


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    Huh? Isn't the biggest tell to google the serial number that brings up countless replicas with the same serial number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by back to the top View Post
    I think the biggest , instant tell , for me anyway , is the helium valve - it’s lined up perfectly with ‘10’ where it should be offset slightly
    The dial is very noticeable too. Compare the 6 of a real one against this.

    At first glance the movement looks decent, if you weren’t in the know it would be easy to be fooled.

    Anybody notice the blu tack on the spare link...

    Is the offer of face to face a ruse to prevent a paypal claim in the future?

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    Anyone got a sacrificial eBay account to bid it up on ? 😂
    Last edited by back to the top; 25th May 2020 at 20:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    Obvious fake by the way. You only have to google the serial number 88998668 to see countless "replica" POs with the same serial number.
    This obv.

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    They've taken a lot of time to fake the Movement, it looks pretty real to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by back to the top View Post
    I think the biggest , instant tell , for me anyway , is the helium valve - it’s lined up perfectly with ‘10’ where it should be offset slightly
    Idly searching to reputable eBay dealers, it appears the He valve lines up with 10...are they using replica photos?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274365107353

    Here are some official AD photos, which look similar:

    https://www.berrysjewellers.co.uk/wa...ic-watch-p7169

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    I'd reported the item to eBay and asked the seller if they knew it was fake watch, to which he replied "Say hello to the bailiff boy from me bro" whatever that's supposed to mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    Idly searching to reputable eBay dealers, it appears the He valve lines up with 10...are they using replica photos?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274365107353

    Here are some official AD photos, which look similar:

    https://www.berrysjewellers.co.uk/wa...ic-watch-p7169
    I think it was only the 2500 PO where the HE valve was the 'tell'? From cal 8500 the valves have lined up with 10 on the real thing

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    Ah...ok, so we've got people calling this out as a fake based on incorrect tells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    Ah...ok, so we've got people calling this out as a fake based on incorrect tells.
    Not entirely. The serial is apparently a well known fake number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Kenney View Post
    Not entirely. The serial is apparently a well known fake number.
    Ah, thanks. Hadn't thought of that. Seems like a much better way of telling this is a fake.
    Last edited by Christian; 26th May 2020 at 00:54.

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    Just signed up, I had the misfortune of almost buying this, I’ll be honest I was buying it as an upgrade for my 2004 Seamaster as I wanted a daily driver over my other stuff.

    What I found interesting is it also had a cash converters receipt with the serial number on it. If I had my cynical head on I’d say people are selling these to CC then buying back to get a ‘receipt’ with the serial number on it, I’m guessing CC won’t be able to fully check them and whatever the scammers lose in selling and buying back is all part of overheads of selling these.

    It’s a real shame as I’ve been heavily into Rolex / AP / Patek over the last few years and I’m pretty well versed in the fakes there and what to look. However this it really puts me off Omega all together now, they depreciate like stones if you buy new and it seems the seconds market is so well flooded with fakes you’ll just spend your cash elsewhere.

    I also think:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402272103873 May be fake due to the quality of the listing, the guy couldn’t find me the serial number and wouldn’t send me a pic of the shoulder with the serial on it, also wanted cash in collection despite a few offers of bank xfer.

    Stay safe out there folks

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    Ah, thanks. Hadn't thought of that. Seems like a much better way of telling this is a fake.
    No problem. Yes, the serial number is a dead giveaway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono247 View Post
    Hi


    I also think:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402272103873 May be fake due to the quality of the listing, the guy couldn’t find me the serial number and wouldn’t send me a pic of the shoulder with the serial on it, also wanted cash in collection despite a few offers of bank xfer.

    Stay safe out there folks
    That is a fake - you can tell very simply by the font of the numerals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSB View Post
    That is a fake - you can tell very simply by the font of the numerals.
    I thought this too, being a ‘newbie’ to recent Omegas I didn’t know what changes, again I was happy to meet this guy as he’s given me an address just across London.

    I’ll report them both, I’d love to know if they’re both wearing the same serial#

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono247 View Post
    Hi
    Just signed up, I had the misfortune of almost buying this, I’ll be honest I was buying it as an upgrade for my 2004 Seamaster as I wanted a daily driver over my other stuff.

    What I found interesting is it also had a cash converters receipt with the serial number on it. If I had my cynical head on I’d say people are selling these to CC then buying back to get a ‘receipt’ with the serial number on it, I’m guessing CC won’t be able to fully check them and whatever the scammers lose in selling and buying back is all part of overheads of selling these.

    It’s a real shame as I’ve been heavily into Rolex / AP / Patek over the last few years and I’m pretty well versed in the fakes there and what to look. However this it really puts me off Omega all together now, they depreciate like stones if you buy new and it seems the seconds market is so well flooded with fakes you’ll just spend your cash elsewhere.

    I also think:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402272103873 May be fake due to the quality of the listing, the guy couldn’t find me the serial number and wouldn’t send me a pic of the shoulder with the serial on it, also wanted cash in collection despite a few offers of bank xfer.

    Stay safe out there folks
    Bank xfer won’t protect you so be glad that he/she declined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmATeaf View Post
    Bank xfer won’t protect you so be glad that he/she declined.
    Completely get that- was more it’s the only recent watch trade where someone was so persistent about cash, suppose it leaves even less of a paper trail.

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    Is it common to see movements faked as well as that? I would have taken one look at that and assumed it was fine so I'm spooked a bit by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty View Post
    Is it common to see movements faked as well as that? I would have taken one look at that and assumed it was fine so I'm spooked a bit by it.
    If it's a watch that normally has a display case back, it becomes necessary for them to do so in order to be convincing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSB View Post
    If it's a watch that normally has a display case back, it becomes necessary for them to do so in order to be convincing.
    I suppose so. I just always assumed that having to decorate a movement would chip away at the cost benefit equation for making a fake in the first place. I would think they would focus on a different model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusty View Post
    I suppose so. I just always assumed that having to decorate a movement would chip away at the cost benefit equation for making a fake in the first place. I would think they would focus on a different model.
    I believe these fakes are thicker than the real as they put a decorated top on a cheap fake movement underneath

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    Ah that would make sense. Scary stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob153 View Post
    Reported- Out of interest, I wonder how many times an item has to be reported as counterfeit before flea bay starts to act.
    I've reported twice and it's still there. Have sent a msg to the seller asking if he has a genuine one for sale instead

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    Reassuring reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    I've reported twice and it's still there.
    It's got plenty of bids. From what I can see, eBay rarely deletes a listing that has bids. :-(

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    Like this :)






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    Fake planet ocean

    This post is from October last year. Not suggesting it’s the same watch but some of the ‘tells’ may be the same. Although as has been said, the serial no. seems to be well used.




    Also a google of the serial no. brings this up (along with fake omegas sharing same serial). Did someone mention a cash converters receipt? It’s the same serial no. on the warranty card. Can’t go and check the actual cash converters description as the website is down until 15th June.

    Last edited by Mr Tetley; 28th May 2020 at 08:56.

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    Couple of messages exchanged with the seller now, he says it's real because when he bought a strap from the boutique they fitted it for him and that's a good a guarantee as you will ever get. I'd love to know what happens to items which have been reported as fake, it must open a ticket somewhere, but eBay just do nothing.

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    Listing ended ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by back to the top View Post
    Listing ended ?
    By eBay hopefully

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    Hope no one’s been had

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    Quote Originally Posted by back to the top View Post
    Hope no one’s been had
    Sorry bit late to the party, Cash Converters receipt......

    Does make you wonder if someone did fall for it






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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    By eBay hopefully
    Looks like he did it himself. Maybe it became too much hassle.

    Based upon experience, I would not have expected eBay to terminate the listing because it had received a number of high value bids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    By eBay hopefully
    Strange one.
    When eBay removes an ad, it usually disappears.
    However, this watch just shows that ‘Sorry you missed out on this item’

    Also it doesn’t show what it sold for. Just a starting bid of £600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalic Mud View Post
    Strange one.
    When eBay removes an ad, it usually disappears.
    However, this watch just shows that ‘Sorry you missed out on this item’

    Also it doesn’t show what it sold for. Just a starting bid of £600.
    If we're talking about this one, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Sea...-/224018074978, then for me it shows "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

    In other words, it seems likely that the seller pulled it because of the hassle. Most likely eBay didn't do anything.

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