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Thread: Haveston M-1944C canvas strap - long term test

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    Haveston M-1944C canvas strap - long term test

    First, many thanks to Steve (stefaulkner) for responding to my WTB for one of these. I've been looking at them for quite a while, but I've never found any info regarding their longevity and resistance to wear, being washed regularly etc etc, that would convince me to buy one (that's any canvas, not just Haveston). I actually prefer the lighter tan colour of the M-1918C, but the darker shade of this strap will show any fading and abrasion better. First impressions are that it has the usual high quality that you would expect from Haveston, precise cutting of the material and stitching. It's a little longer than my four nylon Havestons, but still a very good fit on my 7" wrist due to the sliding keeper. Good quality lightly brushed buckle, just the right size without being too bulky and overpowering the strap. It looks thinner than it's 1.5mm when compared to other Havestons and Eddie's Deluxe, but that's the braided/woven edge of those straps making them look a little thicker. Re thickness, I'd planned to switch the strap between my Voyager and 40mm Everest, but the stitching around the tang holes takes the thickness up to 1.92/1.94mm at these points and it takes a healthy pull to drag the strap through the gap on the Everest. I reckon the stitching here would wear out PDQ so it's only going on the Voyager for now, perhaps these thicker points will flatten with some wear. The material is softer than I imagined it would be, it folded around the bars of the Voyager beautifully, surprisingly more so than the nylon Havestons , and even more so than the TF. So that's it until gets it's first wash, then we'll know how quickly or otherwise it dries, probably after tomorrow's walk.


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    They do look really nice those Canvas and like you I've been intrigued with how it puts up with wear. So following with interest!

    And once again we see that the Voyager really is a strap whore, it goes with everything

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    I wore the strap on my Voyager today when out for my walk. Lots of sweaty uphill on the return leg, so gave it a good wash. No apparent loss of colour, but whereas a nylon Haveston or Eddie's Deluxe will be dry enough to wear in an hour, this took @ 2.5 hours. That's a hand wash in the sink, then gripped in the fold of a towel and dragged through several times to dry off the bulk of the water. Then strapped on the washing line until dry.
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    Approx 2.5 days wear, washed once and buttery soft, but to be fair it was this soft out out of the tin. A lot of shots I've seen look as if there's a sort of bow where the strap exits the bars and you'd then expect the strap to need to wear in and curve around the bar, but not with this example. Here's a quick phone snap, heavily cropped to illustrate . . .





    I mentioned that I wasn't happy with fitting it to my Everest. Well I had a similar problem with my Damasko DA37, not with canvas, just a tight fit pulling certain Natos through the case/springbar gap. Moving from 1.8mm bars to 1.6mm fixed that, so I've got some 1.5x22mm shoulderless bars ordered to see if that helps with fitting the canvas on the Everest, 0.3mm is a lot in this area!
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    It fits nicely on the Everest with the 1.5mm shoulderless bars fitted, a very good looking combination IMHO. Turned the pedals for a very sweaty hour on the turbo trainer yesterday, so another soapy wash. The strap had taken on the shape of the bends around the bars and case along with a little hump next to the tang hole being used, but just like it's nylon bretheren these disappeared after washing and looking as good as new.


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    Be interested to see how the darker colour gets on. I've the light tan version, and it has worn in nicely - I'm very pleased with it.




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    The tan colour as above would normally be my first choice (for my Voyager), but that said, the colour I have looks just the job on my Everest and I'd happily buy the colour again. Of course any other owners are welcome to contribute to the thread with info on amounts of useage and how their straps are wearing. Hopefully anyone who is dithering will find this thread and find it useful in making a purchasing decision. Mine got a decent sweaty soaking today as I was out cutting lawns and hedges in the sunshine, it's been washed and is out on the line drying in the sun and breeze. That's 3 washes in a week, about the norm for my nylon natos.

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    I quite like the look of those straps, good to see them being put through their paces. I do wonder whether they'd be too long for my wrist, though (6.75").
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    They are fine, my wrist is that size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave E View Post
    I quite like the look of those straps, good to see them being put through their paces. I do wonder whether they'd be too long for my wrist, though (6.75").

    Take a look at post #27 in this thread. I took some measurements a while ago that you may find helpful.

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    Interesting measurements, those. Hmm, probably would be fine, but I have a somewhat irrational dislike of too much strap tail showing round my wrist. I suspect I'll try one at some point and see what I think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave E View Post
    Interesting measurements, those. Hmm, probably would be fine, but I have a somewhat irrational dislike of too much strap tail showing round my wrist. I suspect I'll try one at some point and see what I think!
    To be fair, that Haveston wasn't the best to illustrate my points, but it was my first and therefore the only one I had at the time. That example was the normal Nato style with the "extra bit" and quite thick too, they are now all a one piece design, or "pass through" as Haveston call it. With the canvas having no woven edge as so many straps do now, it actually looks and wears thinner, so with the ability to place the buckle where you want it, plus the sliding keeper, there's no bulky tuck in and the free end of the strap is tightly contained. As your wrist is only 0.25" smaller than mine I can't imagine you'd have a problem.

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    I might have to give one a go, I do like a canvas strap. (The fact it would come from the UK is a factor, I've been waiting for an order coming from the US for more than 3 weeks now.)
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    Eh, I gave in and ordered myself a Forecastle strap in 20mm to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave E View Post
    Eh, I gave in and ordered myself a Forecastle strap in 20mm to play with.

    Good man, I like to see a chap spending his money! ;-) If this 22mm passes muster I think that exactly what you have ordered will go very nicely on my Damaskos.

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    Noticed some loose threads earlier around some of tang holes. Of course you can't just zap them with a hot flame as you would a nylon Nato, but a quick snip with the wife's very sharp dressmaking scissors did the trick. Surprisingly the affected holes weren't either of the two I use to fasten the strap.

    This is the third hole away from the lugs . . .





    These are the three holes at the other end . . .



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    I hadn’t noticed that Havestons NATO’s are now single pass so I’ve ordered a few to try out. I don’t like NATO’s that lift the watch too far off the wrist so hopefully they will do the job.

    The Voyager looks great on the darker green.

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    I noticed when changing the strap between watches earlier that a loop has worked free from one of the holes I use to fasten the strap. I'll leave it as is and see how it behaves. Another sweaty ride and wash today.


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    The strap got very sweaty today as I tramped about on my walk with a camera bag on my back, so that's 11 continuous days of wear and 5 washes.

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