Reply With QuoteThe Nontron six tool Navette looks a nice alternative to a Victorinox, albeit more expensive. I like the burnt boxwood scales.Originally Posted by Saint-Just
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It’s a fossilised steak. They are very rare. The blue version is even rarer.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
The Nontron six tool Navette looks a nice alternative to a Victorinox, albeit more expensive. I like the burnt boxwood scales.
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Lovely little thing. Boxwood is very tactile.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
I don't carry a knife except a standard SAK when walking or camping or whittler when on hols. I'm not a collector but seem to have ended up with two collections: Swiss Army Knife Soldiers and as I do a bit of carving, enough Whittlers to last my lifetime. The Soldiers broadly have dates on their blades, Swiss emblems rather than Victorinox or Wenger emblems, WK stamp (like an MoD broadarrow). With Whittlers, I tend to prefer Solingen made carbon steel. They are unintimidating, small knives,
Top: Elsener (Victorinox), 1891 pattern, 125th anniversary limited edition, ebony scales
Left to right:
Early 1900s pattern
1939 Elsener (Victorinox)
1944 Wenger
Smaller 1950s patterm
1955 Wenger
1957 Wenger
Alox 1960s pattern
1964 Wenger
1966 Elsener (Victorinox)
1981 Victorinox
Bottom: 1992 Victorinox Dutch Army
Left to right:
Boker Congress Carver's Whittler in rosewood
Zwilling JA Henckels Whittler in walnut (looks Boker made)
Carl Schlieper (Olbertz?) Whittler in Delrin/acrylic
Kissing Cranes (Robert Klass?) Whittler in horn
Boker Whittler in beer barrel oak
Hen and Rooster Whittler in stag (well used knife and looks to be made by Boker)
Bottom: A cheap Chinese Rough Rider. Looked down on by collectors. I like the small clip blade for carving and a cheap way to give carving or whittling a go.
Last edited by BillyCasper; 23rd October 2022 at 15:18.
That 125th anniversary is a beauty that eluded me at the time. Very good catch.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Great collection there.I don't carry a knife except a standard SAK when walking or camping or whittler when on hols. I'm not a collector but seem to have ended up with two collections: Swiss Army Knife Soldier's and as I do a bit of carving, enough Whittlers to last my lifetime. The Soldier's broadly have dates on their blades, Swiss emblems rather than Victorinox or Wenger emblems, WK stamp (like an MoD broadarrow). With Whittlers, I tend to prefer Solingen made carbon steel. They are unintimidating, small knives,
Top: Elsener (Victorinox), 1891 pattern, 125th anniversary limited edition, ebony scales
Left to right:
Early 1900s pattern
1939 Elsener (Victorinox)
1944 Wenger
Smaller 1950s patterm
1955 Wenger
1957 Wenger
Alox 1960s pattern
1964 Wenger
1966 Elsener (Victorinox)
1981 Victorinox
Bottom: 1992 Victorinox Dutch Army
Left to right:
Boker Congress Carver's Whittler in rosewood
Zwilling JA Henckels Whittler in walnut (looks Boker made)
Carl Schlieper (Olbertz?) Whittler in Delrin/acrylic
Kissing Cranes (Robert Klass?) Whittler in horn
Boker Whittler in beer barrel oak
Hen and Rooster Whittler in stag (well used knife and looks to be made by Boker)
Bottom: A cheap Chinese Rough Rider. Looked down on by collectors. I like the small clip blade for carving and a cheap way to give carving or whittling a go.
I have a couple of Rough Rider knives myself, I must admit when I ordered them i thought they'd be junk but they were surprisingly ok quality wise & quite fun things to own.
I don't carry a knife except a standard SAK when walking or camping or whittler when on hols. I'm not a collector but seem to have ended up with two collections: Swiss Army Knife Soldier's and as I do a bit of carving, enough Whittlers to last my lifetime. The Soldier's broadly have dates on their blades, Swiss emblems rather than Victorinox or Wenger emblems, WK stamp (like an MoD broadarrow). With Whittlers, I tend to prefer Solingen made carbon steel. They are unintimidating, small knives,
Top: Elsener (Victorinox), 1891 pattern, 125th anniversary limited edition, ebony scales
Left to right:
Early 1900s pattern
1939 Elsener (Victorinox)
1944 Wenger
Smaller 1950s patterm
1955 Wenger
1957 Wenger
Alox 1960s pattern
1964 Wenger
1966 Elsener (Victorinox)
1981 Victorinox
Bottom: 1992 Victorinox Dutch Army
Left to right:
Boker Congress Carver's Whittler in rosewood
Zwilling JA Henckels Whittler in walnut (looks Boker made)
Carl Schlieper (Olbertz?) Whittler in Delrin/acrylic
Kissing Cranes (Robert Klass?) Whittler in horn
Boker Whittler in beer barrel oak
Hen and Rooster Whittler in stag (well used knife and looks to be made by Boker)
Bottom: A cheap Chinese Rough Rider. Looked down on by collectors. I like the small clip blade for carving and a cheap way to give carving or whittling a go.
May interest you,just released.
https://greateasterncutlery.net/blog/
Thanks for the link.
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Just posting a bit of an update. Ok so I am not the greatest at DIY or any form of fixing things!
Thank you to those that have helped me! Much appreciated!
The knife has been soaked in WD40 cleaned with an old toothbrush and soapy water. Into 3in1 oil and cleaned again.
The knife is now reasonable to open and close. Not idea how to get the stuff off the handle or if this should be done? Part of me thinks if I can I’d like to. But then the other side thinks it shows the knifes life and tells it’s stories.
Tried to show a close up of the blade which is quite pitted and definitely blunt! Will take anyone’s advice on this..
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I would get a wet stone and sharpen it that way
Failing that if you have a kitchen sharpening steel use that.
Go slow and try and keep the strokes even
Regarding the crud on the scales, I would try gently with a wooden toothpick
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
This, or a hard plastic equivalent used with care. ^^
As far as sharpening is concerned, a 25-30 deg angle would be fine, but the most important thing is to keep the angle the same across the length of the blade and both sides.
This might help, around 2.10 the 'burr' or 'wire edge' is important.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9_sND3P_F4
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
I had a go at making a braided lanyard for mine. I made it with the smaller micro paracord as it seemed a bit more practical for looping into a belt or a pair of jeans. I’m quite pleased with my diamond knot, not so much with the neatness of my cobra stitches but it’ll do for now. The whole thing is about 30cm long and contains about 4m of cord.
https://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Paracord-Lanyard
Looks pretty good tbh, and 4m of cord is a worthwhile carry.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Nice little collection there. I think some of the Rough Rider knives are vastly underrated (and underpriced) for their quality. Have a few of them myself.I don't carry a knife except a standard SAK when walking or camping or whittler when on hols. I'm not a collector but seem to have ended up with two collections: Swiss Army Knife Soldiers and as I do a bit of carving, enough Whittlers to last my lifetime. The Soldiers broadly have dates on their blades, Swiss emblems rather than Victorinox or Wenger emblems, WK stamp (like an MoD broadarrow). With Whittlers, I tend to prefer Solingen made carbon steel. They are unintimidating, small knives,
Top: Elsener (Victorinox), 1891 pattern, 125th anniversary limited edition, ebony scales
Left to right:
Early 1900s pattern
1939 Elsener (Victorinox)
1944 Wenger
Smaller 1950s patterm
1955 Wenger
1957 Wenger
Alox 1960s pattern
1964 Wenger
1966 Elsener (Victorinox)
1981 Victorinox
Bottom: 1992 Victorinox Dutch Army
Left to right:
Boker Congress Carver's Whittler in rosewood
Zwilling JA Henckels Whittler in walnut (looks Boker made)
Carl Schlieper (Olbertz?) Whittler in Delrin/acrylic
Kissing Cranes (Robert Klass?) Whittler in horn
Boker Whittler in beer barrel oak
Hen and Rooster Whittler in stag (well used knife and looks to be made by Boker)
Bottom: A cheap Chinese Rough Rider. Looked down on by collectors. I like the small clip blade for carving and a cheap way to give carving or whittling a go.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Seeing that you, as an expert on quality knives, said this about the Rough Rider knives I checked them out and ordered one that came today.
Beautiful fit and finish, really razor sharp blades and a great design, the Copperhead with jigged bone scales. Really pleased.!
^ Just looked them up on Hennies, they look like great value. I think I’ll get one or two too.
Cheers..
Jase
I doubt you will be disappointed, J.
some history I have been meaning to get one myself one day.Seeing that you, as an expert on quality knives, said this about the Rough Rider knives I checked them out and ordered one that came today.
Beautiful fit and finish, really razor sharp blades and a great design, the Copperhead with jigged bone scales. Really pleased.!
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com...pic.php?t=5874
Rough Rider do a model called the Kamp King (basically a re-edition of an old American knife, they've presumably bought the name).
I got one the other day from Heinnie Haynes (who are superb btw), I can highly recommend it, very nice knife.
It’s worth buying for the name alone!
Thanks!
I wonder if Tom (Pacifichrono) has one, being as he served in Vietnam?
Alox farmer and X model at good prices today
no sign of the new Farmer X model though.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=alox+sw...nb_sb_ss_i_1_4
Glad you're pleased with it. I'd have been gutted if you got a bad one!Seeing that you, as an expert on quality knives, said this about the Rough Rider knives I checked them out and ordered one that came today.
Beautiful fit and finish, really razor sharp blades and a great design, the Copperhead with jigged bone scales. Really pleased.!
Seriously though they are mostly good value for money. For the price point I haven't seen much better.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
This cost me £120 last month
GEC knives often sell out in minutes and end up on ebay for twice the price or more the very next minute
Inspired by this, and the other penknife thread - I have ordered the CS2 Rough Rider kit.
I did the smaller single blade kit about 10-years ago.
The back springs are halfway through being attacked with a needle file and junior hack saw.
The rest of the pattern will probably wait until my Birthday later in the year.
Work in progress
Nearly there
The thread inspired me to buy the Rough Rider three blade Stockman kit, mainly to see if I could peen and as a small lock-down, something to do project.
I found it a bugger set the two opposing blades in the spring before adding the liner. The spring is really strong. Bent the rivets and pivots forcing the blades in to the spring. What surprised me was that the rivets and pivots don’t really hold the thing together it’s the tension in the springs. Some blade knocking and rubbing as I didn’t use a shim and I think I might have bent the sheep’s foot blade.
Still not bad entertainment for something like £12 with plenty of frustration and swearing thrown in.
Need to sharpen the blades now. If you do buy one, do not sharpen the blades until right at the end.
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Last edited by BillyCasper; 23rd October 2022 at 15:18.
Nice little find at a flea market today. Cost me £10. Not in the best shape there is a major wobble in the blade so would appreciate any advice on how to tighten that if possible? And should the blade sit further inside? Looks high to me?
Not a bad find though
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These were obviously made to be utilitarian in nature. The pivot pin is peened to hold everything tight. It could perhaps be peened a bit more to tighten it up, but gently does it as it would be easy to end up too tight.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
It does look as though the pivot pin is a little loose.
The central pin holding the spring looks like someone has already had a go at it.
Sorry still a complete novice at this. How would I go about trying to fix it?
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A small hammer, a flat hard metal surface, and patience.
Lay the knife on the metal surface and try gentle taps on the pivot pin head, testing after each tap. Slightly harder taps may be required if insufficient force has made no difference.
You could even try using a centre punch in the same way.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pe...&client=safari
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
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