Reply With QuoteThere is, some, but perhaps come at it from the other direction: what features are you looking for?Originally Posted by BillN
The more I look at the different models the more confused I become
Is there any logic to the model numbers etc,?
There is, some, but perhaps come at it from the other direction: what features are you looking for?
Yeah, why would you look to buy a watch based on model number?!?!?
M
Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?
what's the difference between the 857 and the 757?Yeah, why would you look to buy a watch based on model number?!?!?
M
presumably you are an expert?
That’s easy, one is a dual chronograph, one isn’t.
100... I'll get my coat. The 757 is a choronograph, and so a bit thicker.
Believe the 756/856 is the same kinda deal minus the bezel, although I think the 756 has been discontinued. Always liked the look of those.
Is a 756 a 757 without the bezel?
so
S = Black
UTC = GMT
?
what's DIAPAL?
https://www.sinn.de/en/DIAPAL.htm
Have you had a look in the Sinn picture thread? Plenty of inspiration there.
Andy
Wanted - Damasko DC57
are you sure?
I thought the models with dual chronographs were marked "Duochronograph" in the model description
Yah I think so
https://www.sinn.de/en/Archive/757.htm
Thanks - the Archive helps a lot
I always liked the look of the 140. I believe the PVD version is the "space watch" and this is a modified chronograph?
Dont see many pictures of them about.
Indeed, very good at record keeping, the Germans.
I have a T2 I keep thinking of moving on and getting something different.
Far from it, but why is it important for you to know?
If you like them both and they are different prices, understanding their capabilities is important I guess.
M
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Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?
The 'Made in Germany' on the dial spoils it a bit for me. There's probably not enough room for 'Hergestellt in Deutschland' but a simple 'Deutschland' would be more fitting. IMHO
Does the same thing spoil Swiss and Japanese watches for you?
This has never occurred to me and now I want a watch where the "Made in" is in local language instead of English. Why wouldn't German/Swiss makers use their own language? Has it EVER been done?
Problem is Switzerland really has four languages; German, French, Italian and Romansh, so it might get a bit confusion for an international market? And isn’t ‘Swiss made’ a kind of protected term?
I always thought it was a bit different / how Breitling uses French ‘certifie’ rather than ‘certified’, I assume because their home part of Switzerland is French speaking.
Expensive but worth it.
There’s some (quite a bit of) history as to why “Made in Germany” ist used, generally speaking: “[...] in 1878 the UK-government introduced the Merchandise Marks act to allow consumers to be able to choose whether or not they would continue to purchase goods from foreign economies.
Germany successfully leveraged the Made in Germany tag as a brand synonymous of product reliability and quality.”
Strictly speaking “Hergestellt in Deutschland” (=“Made in Germany”, in German) is a relatively new term. Sinn have been around for 50+ years, so seems coherent that they would use the older term?
I’m with the OP though, some of the Sinn models seem very similar. If I may: I understand that the 358 is a bigger version of their 356? But what’s the difference between the 103 and the 358? And the 144?
Etc.
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Just image search Sinn watches, or visit Neil at Chronomaster, pick watches you like the look of, then do your research from there. Diapal etc will all become more easily understood then.
Research is a major part of any purchase for me and part of the fun and excitement of understanding more about a particular watch / brand.
Enjoy!
that's what I'm doing hence the thread/questions
heading towards the 756 on a Bracelet - but the more research I do the more research I do!!!
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I was on Neil's site yesterday and he has that Blue limited edition, don't know the model number, but an absolutely stunning dial. Then I noticed that the bezel insert was backwards and I looked at it for a while and thought no, that would do my OCD in completely
Apologies, kind of misread your title and my response does sound rather condescending which clearly wasn’t my intention
A lot of the time with Sinn numbering the difference in sequence refers to case size reduction, no bezel etc.
Great brand by the way and my go to choice. My last watch would always be a Sinn.
757 Diapal would be my choice. Best of everything!
Last edited by Chinnock; 7th May 2020 at 08:52.
no worries, no offence takenApologies, kind of misread your title and my response does sound rather condescending which clearly wasn’t my intention
A lot of the time with Sinn numbering the difference in sequence refers to case size reduction, no bezel etc.
Great brand by the way and my go to choice. My last watch would always be a Sinn.
757 Diapal would be my choice. Best of everything!
757 - no sure I want the bezel as I have quite a few "divers"
As someone said earlier, the archive section of Sinn.de is perfect for working out which model is which.
Some, for sure, are initially very similar (eg 103 vs 203 vs 206).
However, a cursory glance reveals (for example) that a 103 is nothing like a 144.
M
Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?
Their archive is very helpful. Thank you for pointing that out.
A very timely thread as I’m in the same position as the OP. The world of Sinn is completely new to me and I’m enjoying researching to decide which model might be for me. The archive is very helpful. Thankyou.
When I got my first Sinn ,I never realised how addictive they are,never paid much attention to model numbers just bought what took my eye.
Perhaps 'spoil' was too strong a word. It certainly doesn't put me off buying a watch. However I would prefer the language of the country to be used. Just a little niggle for me.
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That is interesting. Thank you.
I can indeed vouch for the fact that the 103 and 144 are different. My 144 from Neil arrived this morning!
Was only allowed a quick look as it is for my birthday later this month.
It will be my 4th Sinn. I think the brand are great.
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You mean a countdown bezel? Those are actually a lot more useful for day to day use. One of the reasons I love the EZM-1.I was on Neil's site yesterday and he has that Blue limited edition, don't know the model number, but an absolutely stunning dial. Then I noticed that the bezel insert was backwards and I looked at it for a while and thought no, that would do my OCD in completely
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Not really sure what the problem is - Sinn have a very comprehensive website that's orders of magnitude better than most larger makers manage. Every conceivable piece of information any sane person might want is on there. There's a good search facility and a thorough glossary of the more specialist terminology. Just requires a little time and effort. Baffled why OP would want to confuse himself further looking at an archive of watches that are not available any more, unless it's in the faint hope they may show-up used....
Exactly that, I'd imagine - 2 of my 3 Sinns were used and the archive was really useful in finding out about one.
M
Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?
It has - this says "Made in Germany" in German. It is also on the solid case back (I have both). It is not on the dial.
EDIT: Found it written on a dial (not my watch).
Back on topic - I think this is such a handsome watch and one of the very few Sinn makes without a date (I only buy no date watches). They limited it to 100 pieces which is idiocy since they could have sold a boatload of them, including to someone like me who would not otherwise buy a Sinn.
https://www.sinn.de/en/Modell/103_St_C.htm
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