Reply With QuoteSorry for your loss...
You will always have this amazing watch to remember your uncle by.
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I wonder if I could ask for some advice / thoughts on this 1665 DRSD?
I’ve inherited this from my late uncle and it does have a couple of issues but to my untrained eye looks (to me) like a honest one and in keeping with being used for its original purpose and been serviced though its life?
I’ve done some research* and here are my initial thoughts.
The case is what I believe is the early “Thin” case in the 1.7M range with what I believe to be a V2 dial, the case back also fits the bracelet and end links are period correct 9315 and 280 with minimal wear, the clasp has the extension link and has 127103 engraved on it and a 1 72 stamp (indicating a service replacement perhaps?)
The case has been polished and I suspect this was during prior services as my uncle used to dive as a hobby, I gained my interest on watches from him and my grandad, and can recall my uncle talking about this watch and his Sub, having them serviced at St James with both good and bad experiences even back then.
The superdome shows some marks on it which fit with something that’s been used. I’ve not opened the back yet and to be honest I’m not sure I want to, but understand this would hopefully clarify the service questions
We know that he also had a Sub prior to this but not if he brought the 1665 new or second hand, the box and papers are missing at present but there’s still a lot of stuff to go through so they might turn up.
The main issue is that the keyless works seem broken, as it can’t be hand wound or the time adjusted though the hacking works. So I’m wondering who to entrust with a movement only service, the initial thoughts are Bill Rice or Steven Hale are there any other options to consider?
And while I’m not considering selling I suppose I do need to consider insurance value, some of the prices posted online seem quite scary, where do we think this sits?
Okay enough words, if you’ve made it this far I’m sure you’d like some photos…
*Thanks to Ed Delgado for http://www.drsd.com/watch-info/double-red-seadweller/
And Mr Haywood Milton of this parish https://www.miltonaires.com/7400/thi...5-mark-ii-dial
Sorry for your loss...
You will always have this amazing watch to remember your uncle by.
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Mark 2 in a thin case puts that on a par with a lottery win.
Insurance advice for valuation is deal with someone who knows what they are talking about. I would suggest Haywood once things return to normal. Get it done properly, not just some bloke saying it must be worth £xxx
Service wise, get it done by an independent. Many can't work on SDs because they don't have the correct gear.
You could always talk to Paul at:
https://www.prestigetimeservices.co....ex-accredited/
It is one of those repairs were you discuss what you want and especially what you don't want.
The original bracelet is valuable. Some collectors buy a later bracelet which is more wearable day to day and keep the original nice and safe. Just a thought as it is very difficult to add or remove links on those folded link bracelets.
Even as is - an absolute stunner.
Last edited by Wallasey Runner; 25th April 2020 at 15:39.
Sorry for your loss.
The watch seems to be a terrific heirloom.
Ooh thin case DRSD now that is something special, I won’t frighten you by disclosing what a friend paid for his, as said you need a specialist to look at this. When I was talking to Bill Rice I am sure he said he couldn’t work on seadwellers. Congrats on the watch and condolences on your loss.
Sorry to read the back-story, but looks like a lovely watch at a quick glance.
Mark 2 dial, "smudge coronet" with dog-leg to the second prong. Often takes on a brown or purple hue, which I personally don't enjoy but others cherish.
This link may be of interest : https://www.miltonaires.com/7400/thi...5-mark-ii-dial
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Have I got it wrong or is the word 'patented' misspelt in photo #15?
Simon
Defo misplelt, maybe that is correct for the era?Originally Posted by mycroft
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Seems correct for period, looks like the spelling was corrected some time around 72-73?
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=622827
https://swisstime40.com/product/9315...tention-rolex/
Thanks to everyone for the condolences and comments. It’s very much a pity in the circumstances of it passing to me, unfortunately it was a when, not an if situation.
It sounds as if this might be rarer than I thought, in the absence of getting a professional appraisal at the moment, would I be right in thinking it’s replacement/insurance value would be closer to the top end shown on Chrono24?
Haywood is your man but from the little I know and the fact that I know someone that bought one you are looking in the £90k range for a top example.
Agree with Bob here. Without checking I was going to guess at £75k - but in all honesty try finding another. Whatever the top end is the insurance value is bound to be a lot higher.
Do plenty of research, that is one serious watch.
There is quite a spread of value on these, with a number of factors to consider. Quite a headache that I faced when looking at the one in my article, never mind at this unfashionable time.
Those figures would be too high for many Mark 2 1665s, I think.
Dial condition very important.
Thanks Haywood, I’d sent you an email re-this and a possible valuation once the world returns to some semblance of normality.
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