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    St Georges Day.

    Anyone doing something special or unfortuanatly is it just another day to you ?



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    I was thinking of slaying the dragon, but unfortunately it may result in court appearances; anyway, she is going to her cousin's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
    I was thinking of slaying the dragon, but unfortunately it may result in court appearances; anyway, she is going to her cousin's.
    Bravo 👏

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    Did I hear somewhere that he was a Roman, of middle Eastern descent, and not likely English?
    Anyway, the other nations have a national holiday for their saints but the English don't. Bit unfair that.

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    It's strange how some countries "get it" and others don't.

    The Irish get it; the Welsh too.

    But England, and probably Scotland as well, the Patron Saint thing just hasn't gripped the nationalistic psyche to the same extent.

    I am hugely Anglophile in a positive way as opposed to a protagonistic way, but St George's Day just hasn't grabbed me, nor many others.

    I don't see any harm in celebrating it should you feel motivated so to do; but I don't think of myself as any less patriotic because I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Kent View Post
    Did I hear somewhere that he was a Roman, of middle Eastern descent, and not likely English?
    Anyway, the other nations have a national holiday for their saints but the English don't. Bit unfair that.
    He's from Cappodocia in Turkey, born 275 ad was a snr soldier in the Roman legions, a Christian he objected to persecuting Christians and the Romans beheaded him.

    One of the 13th century English king Edwards, sort've adopted him and the story which had grown in the intervening years, also the Crusades white tabard/ surcoat red cross, George had become a figure embodying the virtues of heroism, steadfastness, sacrifice etc, sort've of marketing exercise by Edward to project the values he wanted England to represent. Cynical load of marketing really. There was no dragon in the origin story of his life...obvs the Dragon is a European symbol of evil and George the British saint would stand against it.

    The wife's being paid to do a lecture to some Spanish school kids, so I've heard some of the prep.

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    Please tell me more about this Greek born in modern day Turkey and who died in Palestine without ever seeing this country's hallowed shores, and of its significance especially today.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Bear pit bait.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Please tell me more about this Greek born in modern day Turkey and who died in Palestine without ever seeing this country's hallowed shores, and of its significance especially today.
    It's a rather peculiarly English phenomenon ain't it, we do lurve a good story, even if it has to be a heavily embroidered import. Mrs P was asking me for the purpose of this lecture today , so what do you guys do to celebrate your St.s Day, uhm not a thing, sorry hon I can't recall ever going / seeing an event. Ironic this George bugger is just the type of foreigner many English wouldn't want to let in the country nowadays. Pretty funny really. We're an increasingly weird, funny lot, gotta admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Bear pit bait.
    it makes the Tommy Robinson's, Inglish till we die, St. George cross wavers look even dafter...when you know the original George's origins...chortle Ah Ingland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    it makes the Tommy Robinson's, Inglish till we die, St. George cross wavers look even dafter...when you know the original George's origins...chortle Ah Ingland.
    It's sadly at odds with my childhood memories of the cross of St George flying above the local church, back then it represented fairness, an out stretched hand to those in need, a country with it's feet firmly planted in the idea of decency, good triumphing over bad and the rule of law, a sort of ''Foyle's War'' notion of England if you will, but now hijacked by the kind of people ''our boys'' fought against, and the imagery that goes with it such as stern armour clad crusaders, sigh it harks back to 1930's Teutonic knights.
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    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Maybe save the cynicism for the BP.

    Big day for the Scouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    It's sadly at odds with my childhood memories of the cross of St George flying above the local church, back then it represented fairness, an out stretched hand to those in need, a country with it's feet firmly planted in the idea of decency, good triumphing over bad and the rule of law, a sort of ''Foyle's War'' notion of England if you will, but now hijacked by the kind of people ''our boys'' fought against.
    Ah sadly the outstretched hand has turned into a raised fist my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTigerUK View Post
    Anyone doing something special or unfortuanatly is it just another day to you ?

    Why unfortuanatly (sic)?

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    Kinda weird thing to ask imho, to me every day is special, I feel fortunate to have each one.

    Interested in Tiggers thoughts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    Kinda weird thing to ask imho, to me every day is special, I feel fortunate to have each one.

    Interested in Tiggers thoughts...
    I suspect he's achieved his objective.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post
    Maybe save the cynicism for the BP.

    Big day for the Scouts.

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    Respectfully it ain't cynicism when the historical facts are known, understood, they demonstrate how the adoption of a propagandised version of George as a patron saint of England was a political move by the king, Edward 111, 1327...Ah twas a time we loved the facts on TZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    It's sadly at odds with my childhood memories of the cross of St George flying above the local church, back then it represented fairness, an out stretched hand to those in need, a country with it's feet firmly planted in the idea of decency, good triumphing over bad and the rule of law
    Were you born in 2010?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uwtc View Post
    Were you born in 2010?
    Obviously.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Moths to the flame.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Moths to the flame.
    On yer bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    On yer bike
    Oh hello, fancy seeing you here.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Oh hello, fancy seeing you here.
    You too

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Moths to the flame.
    Any rules broken?
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Any rules broken?
    Nobody mentioned rules. Except you. Merely an observation old chap.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Nobody mentioned rules. Except you. Merely an observation old chap.
    Noted.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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