I wll be in credit at somestage regardless as I'm waiting for a some refunds for cancelled flights and hotel deposits.
I just had a call from Goldsmiths, offered me a date sub, no date sub, explorer 1 and 2 or a Rootbeer. Dont have a credit card but could buy any of them from my debit card. Tempted by no date sub but with only having a debit card not sure. I know its GS calling me as I know the manager really well BTW....
I see your 13.5% off an Explorer 2 and raise you with 20% off a BLNR Also in 2014 so that was clearly a good year! Wouldn't I like that to happen again!
Ive been pursuing a GMT at retail for ages as a first dabble into Rolex territory to no avail. I had a business trip to Boston planned for end of March and had found a dealer there who could source stock at RRP - due to Covid trip was cancelled!
Ive since contacted my local retailer (Mallory of Bath) who have given me the standard blurb on long waiting lists.
The hunt continues......
I was thinking, yep can hear my cogs turning, whether it would be a good idea to have a poll on what Rolex has been offered. To illustrate the most held back model? Personally, im technically inept of setting up something like that.
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It clear from the number of posts on the forum alone who have had "the call" that there was never any real shortage of these watches and the sudden avalibilty is no doubt due to the grey's closing there doors as not wanting to hold stock that won't sell above RRP.
Forum members must account for a very small percentage of the market so it makes you wonder how many have actually been offered to the general public.
Yes I reckon you are absolutely correct. Helps that Various Asian countries have seen a fall in demand too.
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Shortage has been an illusion feed by AD to use the Steel sports as a bargaining chip over buyers and increase their revenues by quite simply being dishonest with clients , You want a Pepsi Gmt, then you have to buy this two tone Datejust with poo brown dial.
Been mentioned many times on this forum and rings true now more than ever on the behaviour of the AD network,
Disrespect people like they have when they are having it good, do not expect them to respect you when times are bad.
What I think it shows are gone are the days of people paying over RRP from the majority of the SS models exception being the Daytona.
I think the only real losers in this situation will be those who have paid over RRP and of course greys. Hopefully the majority of those wanting a hot model will now be able to get one and residuals will remain good rather than what we have seen of late.
Although I am lucky enough to have a few of these so called hot watches which are all currently at a premium I genuinely hope that all the hype dies down and prices return to normal. It will enable me once again enjoy my watches for what they are.
Be great to start wearing them on holiday again for example, rather than being scared of being mugged. Not that well be going on holiday anytime soon........
The Grey market makes its margins whatever the market demands..the only difference being in recent years they have been selling pieces at premiums rather than offering heavy discounts.
Its the flippers who make the real money not the dealers..
Personally I have no sympathy whatsoever for the idiots that have paid and continue to pay huge premiums on RRP thinking that they would keep going up..
The sooner people can start enjoying their watches again rather than scared to wear them in case they scratch them the better.
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Ill admit ive not read every reply but scan reading through this it doesnt appear many have had the call at all. A few yes, but most replies here are not people who have had the call. Is it really any more than wed see in normal times. There are always people showing their new Rolex arrivals, not sure these volumes are really any different. Id be interested in any poll outcomes.
Agree, would be good to know. Mainly because i was offered a new BLNR today, but its not something im interested in. The last recession, i was offered a SS Daytonna once a month from different Ads for a year. Mind you my name had been on their list for 5 years back then.
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Have to agree with this, in normal circumstances the same amount of available pieces as offered now would most probably be sold by the ADs without anyone even noticing.
When you also take into account that a large proportion of opportunities are declined, quite a few on the endless list will get a call for the same piece before someone finally bites. The current assumption seems to be that every call equates to an additional watch.
As I've posted before, i had the call for a SD43 on Monday, which i'm having.
I also registered an interest in a white ss sky dweller as well and spoke briefly with the manager about that. His words were that buying this SD, together with my buying history (got a Black Bay and bi-metel ladies dj from them) will increase my chances when one is available. How true that is I don't know but what I do know is that i'm going to chance my arm and get on the Daytona list as well when I pick the SD up.
Anyone actually picked up anything from an AD yet?
I was told "hopefully end of May" when I paid. Think mid June will be more likely.
I was told early June tentatively when the watch was offered and it was still the same a couple of days ago.
Well yes. I'd never considered it either. I've never bought a watch to get up a list but understand from doing a little reading that it's common to buy a watch that you may not even want just to get priority on a hot piece. I don't think I could ever want something that much to do that. Sent from my Pixel 3 using TZ-UK mobile app
My friend has just paid 50% deposit on a James Cameron for delivery first week June. I warned him about the credit card issues and he seem assured the dealer has /will have the stock in time.
Wonder where these are coming from if Rolex are closed. Do they have a generous stock for distributors or is it a cash generation exercise?
Already covered in detail above.
Credit card fully protected. Amex even confirmed this for me twice and WoS confirmed by email.
SS has been 100% deposit throughout shutdown so if your friend has paid 50% perhaps it's new stock en route as Rolex reopened earlier this week so could have shipped some out.
In my understanding, this is the normal stock of watches that in normal circumstances would have moved much quicker, given the situation, they are having to work through the wider list to secure opportunities with individuals that are happy to take the risk.
The question is, when they go through the stock that they went into lockdown with, how easy would the said hot pieces be to obtain and what would the supply/demand look like..
I've had a text asking if I'm still interested in a BLRO.
I understand the WoS consolidate their lists to see if anyone is on multiple dealers wont lists, but anyone know if I can move the wait list position to another dealer?
Within the dealership each member of staff has their own list so I really dont think Im going to get any calls.
Can purchase history be moved within the group ?
Purchase history is with the group not the store.
so i rejoiced the non date sub ( i should not have) but now have sold some watches so have the funds available. I spoke to a manager and he said that they had explorers, milgauss available but you had to pay the 100% down and hopeful of a June collection.
Not rolex but there is a blue dial overseas waiting for me in the VC boutique on new bond Street when they are able to open again once the lockdown eases up. Paid 50% deposit and they agreed that the final price I pay would be the pre price increase price so I'm just eagerly counting down the days
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They say it's in the safe in the boutique and they're not allowed to open up or go inside until lockdown rules allow them to. Also, i want to try it on first because if it's too big for my small wrists, I won't proceed with the purchase
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