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    The 2020 British Summer Time Challenge

    - - - - - - - - = = = = = = = = - - - - - - - -

    0'02" - Grand Seiko SBGX061 (HAQ) beechcustom
    0'03" - Tudor Black Bay 58 (Auto) Captain RockNRoll
    0'06" - Longines VHP (HAQ) Griswold
    0'07" - Animal W002 (Quartz) gbn13
    0'19" - Casio GLX-5600 (Quartz) JGJG
    0'19" - Q Timex Reissue (Quartz) beechcustom
    1'11" - Casio Diver (Quartz) Craizeehair
    1'13" - Grand Seiko SBGA211 (Spring Drive) Murdoc

    - - - - - - - - = = = = = = = = - - - - - - - -

    Thank you to everyone who took part, extra big thank you to everyone who provided regular updates, and an enormous thank you to Murdoc and Captain RockNRoll for keeping their mechanicals going for the whole time. Having got mine only to the halfway point, I know what it needed of them.

    My favourite was Murdoc's Snowflake - the only Spring Drive entered and a stone cold classic - it was a pleasure to see the very regular photos of that. I also enjoyed that it spent almost the whole period getting closer to correct time, not going away

    - - - - - - - - = = = = = = = = - - - - - - - -


    0'57" at 25 weeks 3 days - Black dial Silverwave (Wimm)
    1'09" at 25 weeks 3 days - White dial Silverwave (Wimm)

    Retirees

    29 w 0 d - Landmaster (crazyp)
    18 w 4 d - Rolex Submariner (Saint-Just)
    16 w 0 d - Breitling Aerospace (JohnnyE)
    15 w 6 d - Omega Globemaster (Der Amf)
    15 w 0 d - Ultronic (Tetlee)
    14 w 6 d - Omega FOIS (Phil0886)
    14 w 3 d - Panerai 00312 (Phil0886)
    11 w 4 d - Patek AC (Martyn JC)
    10 w 4 d - Tuna Solar (Andym)
    10 w 4 d - Seiko 5 (gbn13)
    10 w 2 d - Seiko Black Turtle (BrianR)
    10 w 0 d - Tudor BB 58 (gbn13)
    9 w 6 d - Rolex BLNR GMT (beechcustom)
    7 w 6 d - Tudor BB GMT (AlphaEchoAlpha)
    6 w 4 d - Tudor BB GMT (KingKitega)
    5 w 6 d - Omega Aqua Terra (Craizeehair)
    4 w 3 d - Panerai 00372 (marius)
    4 w 1 d - Sinn (Ginpopy)
    3 w 4 d - Panerai 00932 (marius)
    2 w 6 d - Omega Speedy Mk II (Tetlee)
    2 w 6 d - Seiko Blue Turtle (crazyp)
    2 w 4 d - Casio GW-5000 (Oiljam)
    2 w 3 d - Wempe (Ginpopy)
    2 w 2 d - X-33 MkII (ben4watches)
    2 w 2 d - Breitling 806 (ben4watches)
    2 w 2 d - Tudor P01 (ben4watches)
    1 w 5 d - Smiths Clock (alfat33)
    1 w 2 d - Seiko Presage (Der Amf)
    1 w 0 d - 1971 Seiko manual (Der Amf)
    Last edited by Der Amf; 26th October 2020 at 00:46.

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    Many thanks for taking up the mantle this year :)

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    The challenge is simple: can your watch go through the 30 weeks until the clocks go back to GMT at the end of October without needing adjusting?

    There are different classifications: Quartz, HAQ, Spring Drive, Mechanical and sub-£1,000 Mechanical.

    For the HAQ, the expectation is that the watches won't need adjusting, the competition will be purely the accuracy over the 7 months. For regular quartz, part of the challenge will be whether it stays accurate enough for you not to need to correct it.

    For mechanicals, there's also the much harder challenge of keeping the thing going at all. How you manage this is up to you - automatic winding, hand winding, electric winder, all are permissible.

    I think last year only one mechanical made it through, Sean's Explorer I. I would love to see something like an 8 day Panerai entered.

    THE WATCHES DO NOT NEED TO BE WORN

    To enter post a photo of the watch taken today in front of time.is, with the date visible, and tell us what category its in.

    Multiple entries are encouraged!

    Every couple of weeks please return to the thread with a fresh picture, so we can track its progress. I'll be making little tables as we go, so we can compare.


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    A. HAQ - 5 watches

    (1) Breitling 2007 Aerospace (JohnnyE, post 17)
    (2) Grand Seiko GMT (boring_sandwich, post 4)
    (3) Grand Seiko SBGX061 (Beechcustom, post 18)
    (4) Longines VHP (Griswold, post 25)
    (5) Omega X-33 MkII (ben4watches, post 13)

    B. Quartz - 10 watches

    (6) Animal W002 (gbn13, post 60) [-3 days]
    (7) Casio Diver (Craizeehair, post 5)
    (8) GLX-5600 [starting -1s] (JGJG, post 31)
    (9) Casio GW-5000 [sync turned off] (Oiljam, post 20)
    (10) Longines Ultronic (Tetlee, post 69) [-4 days]
    (11) Q Timex 1979 (beechcustom, post 56) [-3 days]
    (12) Seiko Landmaster (crazyp, post 12)
    (13) Seiko Silverwave white (Wimm, post 58) [-3 days]
    (14) Seiko Silverwave black (Wimm, post 58) [-3 days]
    (15) Seiko Tuna Solar (Andym, post 59) [-3 days]

    C. Spring Drive - 1 watch

    (16) Grand Seiko Snowflake [starting -67s] (Murdoc, post 21)

    D. Mechanicals - 16 watches

    (17) Breitling 806 manual (ben4watches, post 13)
    (18) Omega Aqua Terra (Craizeehair, post 5)
    (19) Omega Globemaster (Der Amf, post 1)
    (20) Omega Speedmaster Pro (Phil0886, post 70) [-4 days]
    (21) Omega Speedmaster Pro Mark II (Tetlee, post 69) [-4 days]
    (22) Panerai 312 (Phil0886, post 27)
    (23) Panerai 372 (marius, post 16)
    (24) Panerai 932 (marius, post 68) [-4 days]
    (25) Patek Annual Calendar (Martyn JC, post 62) [-3 days]
    (26) Rolex BLNR [starting -300s] (beechcustom, post 74) [-6 days]
    (27) Rolex Submariner (Saint-Just, post 14)
    (28) Tudor BB 58 (Captain RockNRoll, post 24)
    (29) Tudor BB 58 (gbn13, post 60) [-3 days]
    (30) Tudor BB GMT (AlphaEchoAlpha, post 11)
    (31) Tudor BB GMT (King Kitega, post 9)
    (32) Tudor PO1 (ben4watches, post 13)

    E. Sub-£1,000 Mechanicals - 7 watches

    (33) Seiko 5 Sports (gbn13, post 60) [-3 days]
    (34) Seiko 7000-8000 [starting +1,800s] (Der Amf, post 71) [-5 days]
    (35) Seiko Presage (Der Amf, post 22)
    (36) Seiko Turtle black (BrianR, post 78) [-6 days]
    (37) Seiko Turtle blue (crazyp, post 12)
    (38) Sinn auto (Ginpopy, post 61) [-3 days]
    (39) Wempe Unitas (Ginpopy, post 61) [-3 days]

    F. Unwearables - 1 clock

    (40) Smiths Mantel Clock (alfat33, post 65) [-4 days]


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    Here's my entry, in the Mechanical category

    Last edited by Der Amf; 6th May 2020 at 16:25.

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    HAQ


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    I’ll try again this year, hopefully I can do a little better. The mechanicals are a challenge but hopefully the battery in the quartz will stay the course this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craizeehair View Post
    I’ll try again this year, hopefully I can do a little better. The mechanicals are a challenge but hopefully the battery in the quartz will stay the course this time.
    The hour hand on the Omega.....

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    Fell at the first hurdle!

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    I really wish I had got round to getting a winder on time for now, so that I could have entered both my autos.

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    Submitting an auto this year.. I should be able to keep this one alive to the end, and I've worked out a way to keep it accurate too. Thanks for running it OP


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKitega View Post
    Submitting an auto ... I've worked out a way to keep it accurate too
    Forgot to say, little nudges for balancing the gain and loss are wholly valid. Eg once every ten days or so, I rest my OCG crown up overnight. It's been running since mid Feb and is still bang on.

    Though anyone who's prepared to spend 7 months just taking what they're given will get plenty of respect!

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    I'm going to give it a go with this...


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    I’m going to enter two -

    The quartz - Seiko Landmaster SBDW005. Kinetic quartz movement, should be fine.

    Mechanical under £1000 - Seiko ‘Save the ocean’ turtle.

    Hopefully I don’t get too OCD with the date. Fingers crossed. If only the mechanical had an independent hour hand, life would be much easier. I don’t think travel will be much of a factor....

    I’m considering another mechanical, my IWC. I’ll have a think of worth doing, maybe doable with lockdown to rotate both mechanicals.

    Pic taken with my Frogman - all 5 of my atomic Gs are syncing the same, so I’ll use that as a reference!




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    Mechanical manual wind 806 Re-addition



    Mechanical Auto Tudor PO1 (Ive adjusted it so its correct, its a minute out in the pic ��)



    HEQ X-33 MKII

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben4watches View Post
    Mechanical Tudor PO1
    Aren't you out by 1 minute (35 vs 36)?


    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I think last year only one mechanical made it through, Sean's Explorer I.
    Makes sense, so much easier for a 1-watch member.

    I travel weekly and find it impossible to keep my watches going while I'm away, and have 8 regular wearers, so I'm 99.9% confident I'd wouldn't be able to keep one watch running (I don't have an 8-day Panerai). Otherwise I'd be in. Thanks for running this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    Aren't you out by 1 minute (35 vs 36)?




    Makes sense, so much easier for a 1-watch member.

    I travel weekly and find it impossible to keep my watches going while I'm away, and have 8 regular wearers, so I'm 99.9% confident I'd wouldn't be able to keep one watch running (I don't have an 8-day Panerai). Otherwise I'd be in. Thanks for running this.
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    The 2020 British Summer Time Challenge

    I’ve always wondered how my radio controlled G Shock would fare with the auto sync off. So I’ll join in with my GW-5000. It synced this morning so is spot on, I’ll turn the auto sync off today and see how it runs naturally with no help from the Anthorn Radio Station.

    Picture later tonight as I’m currently at work.




    (sorry for the poor photo, kitchen lighting not the best)
    Last edited by oiljam; 29th March 2020 at 20:11.

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    Here’s my entry into the Spring Drive category. GS Snowflake, currently 67s slow as I know it gains slightly. Hoping to keep this as my daily wearer until the end of BST.


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    Sorry it took a little while coming! It’s maybe 0.25 of a second fast this morning.

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    A quick update on my entries.

    The Breitling has been traded and the X-33 is out for a battery change, typical. so just the P01 is left in the running.

    Quote Originally Posted by ben4watches View Post
    Mechanical manual wind 806 Re-addition



    Mechanical Auto Tudor PO1 (Ive adjusted it so its correct, its a minute out in the pic 🙄)



    HEQ X-33 MKII

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    I will put the newest member of my Pamily 372
    I wish us all and our watches to reach the finish of this in good health!
    Stay safe friends!

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    My entry this time round... Breitling Aerospace E79362 from 2007. Entered in the HAQ category. Worn daily and will be on my wrist for the majority of this one


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    The voice in the clouds also mentioned that the rule about using time.is in photos is not merely a suggestion. Photos without time.is will be ignored from now on. Kapeesh?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp View Post
    I’m going to enter two -

    The quartz - Seiko Landmaster SBDW005. Kinetic quartz movement, should be fine.

    Mechanical under £1000 - Seiko ‘Save the ocean’ turtle.

    Hopefully I don’t get too OCD with the date. Fingers crossed. If only the mechanical had an independent hour hand, life would be much easier. I don’t think travel will be much of a factor....

    I’m considering another mechanical, my IWC. I’ll have a think of worth doing, maybe doable with lockdown to rotate both mechanicals.

    Pic taken with my Frogman - all 5 of my atomic Gs are syncing the same, so I’ll use that as a reference!




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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    I will put the newest member of my Pamily 372
    I wish us all and our watches to reach the finish of this in good health!
    Stay safe friends!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    The voice in the clouds also mentioned that the rule about using time.is in photos is not merely a suggestion. Photos without time.is will be ignored from now on. Kapeesh?
    Ok ok! My G is slightly offended!






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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    The voice in the clouds also mentioned that the rule about using time.is in photos is not merely a suggestion. Photos without time.is will be ignored from now on. Kapeesh?
    Is this one any good?
    I did't reset it anyway

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    I'm in this year. Great thread! Hope we are all still here in 7 months!

    Grand Seiko SBGX061 in the HAQ category

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    A second entry for me: I've decided to enter this Seiko Presage - I don't wear it much, but I'll handwind it with the intention of getting hold of a winder soon.


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    We've 18 entries already.....room for plenty more!

    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    Many thanks for taking up the mantle this year :)
    Since the government has forbidden my professional existence and is paying me to sit on my arse, it's pretty much the least I could do

    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    Makes sense, so much easier for a 1-watch member.
    What can't have been easy for him was putting up with a watch that was a significantly out for a few months!

    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Hope we are all still here in 7 months!
    Do I need to appoint a deputy, just in case?

    Quote Originally Posted by Murdoc View Post
    Here’s my entry into the Spring Drive category. GS Snowflake, currently 67s slow as I know it gains slightly. Hoping to keep this as my daily wearer until the end of BST.
    I'm pleased to see at least one SD, as I've always been very keen to see what their long-term accuracy proves to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I'm pleased to see at least one SD, as I've always been very keen to see what their long-term accuracy proves to be.
    Thanks, I’ve had a couple of spring drives in the past (a 600m Marinemaster - whatever happened to those, don’t see many about nowadays; and a GS Diver). Over around a month I couldn’t tell whether they were gaining or losing, they were bang on.

    I haven’t had it long, but this Snowflake seems to gain a couple of seconds per week. I’m also interested to see how consistent it is over a longer period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    A second entry for me: I've decided to enter this Seiko Presage - I don't wear it much, but I'll handwind it with the intention of getting hold of a winder soon.

    I've discovered that I feel uncomfortable hand winding an auto every day, so I'm going to pull this one, and replace it with a 1971 Seiko manual 7000-8000, which hasn't been serviced in almost six years. Over 30 weeks it's going to be out by at least half an hour....photo with time.is to follow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I've discovered that I feel uncomfortable hand winding an auto every day, so I'm going to pull this one, and replace it with a 1971 Seiko manual 7000-8000, which hasn't been serviced in almost six years. Over 30 weeks it's going to be out by at least half an hour....photo with time.is to follow....
    It can spend the summer getting closer to the correct time....


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    The Longines is now +18 seconds(in hindsight I wish I'd set it behind as a few here did as I already knew it gains). Gaining around 3 s/p/d which I guess isn't bad for a 44 year old hummer.

    The Speedy MK2 I knew kept good time but I never timed it to see just how good. Currently just +12 seconds so a gain of just over 1.5 s/p/d. Extremely good.
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    Sign me up! Black Bay 58.

    Sorry for the crap photo quality, but it does nicely capture the big scuff I put on one of the lugs while diving recently. D’oh.

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    Longines VHP in the HAQ category.

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    Can I add my 2018 Rolex GMT Master II 116710BLNR please. I've set it at exactly 5 minutes behind (-300secs) as of 10:35 today. The expectation is that it will catch up with correct time in late August.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Can I add my 2018 Rolex GMT Master II 116710BLNR please. I've set it at exactly 5 minutes behind (-300secs) as of 10:35 today. The expectation is that it will catch up with correct time in late August.
    Why don't you set it to be spot on at the finish line?
    That should be interesting....
    Start computing:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    Why don't you set it to be spot on at the finish line?
    That should be interesting....
    Start computing:)

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    I'm glad he's done it at 5 minutes, makes the sums straightforward - that's why I did 30 minutes fast for my old Seiko

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I'm glad he's done it at 5 minutes, makes the sums straightforward - that's why I did 30 minutes fast for my old Seiko
    Indeed, round number for ease of calculation. Plus I'm not certain that mine is predicatably within +2secs per day anyway.

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    First update of the Grand Seiko SBGX061. +/-0secs after 14 days as expected. Will update my Q Timex on Wednesday.

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    First update for my VHP. +/- 0 seconds. Intermittent wearing along with my other watches, (Longines state accuracy quoted [+/- 6 SPY] assumes daily wear).

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    21 day update of the Q Timex. Still running at +1 second..

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    PAM312 - not an 8-day but at 3 days it’s the longest power reserve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil0886 View Post
    PAM312 - not an 8-day but at 3 days it’s the longest power reserve.


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    How did you managed that not having hack second?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    How did you managed that not having hack second?

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    Sorry, missed this - the P9000 does have hack seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil0886 View Post
    Sorry, missed this - the P9000 does have hack seconds.
    Sorry...
    I thought that you might discovered a special technique that you might wanna share :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    Sorry...
    I thought that you might discovered a special technique that you might wanna share :)

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    With the crown pulled out, light reverse pressure can stop the second hand on non-hacking movements, at least it works on my Speedy.

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    I have to start teaching shortly so I couldn't do an exact update after 48 hours but here's my BLNR after 2 days. Looks to be running around +6 secs fast (+3 secs per day)

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    Last orders at the bar, gentlemen.

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    Unfortunately, my hoped-for 2020 challenger hasn’t yet arrived, so here’s the GLX-5600 again.

    Quartz.
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