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    The 2020 British Summer Time Challenge

    Mon 1 Jun = 9w 1d = 64d done, 146 to go

    Quartz and HAQ*

    0'00" no.1: Aerospace* (49d, 255) JohnnyE
    0'00" no.3: SBGX061* (42d, 244) beechcustom
    0'00" no.4: Longines VHP* (36d, 229) Griswold
    0'03" no.8: GLX-5600 (40d, 237) JGJG [+01"]
    0'04" no.11: Timex (49d, 259) beechcustom [-3d]
    0'05" no.6: Animal W002 (57d, 282) gbn13 [-3d]
    -0'03" no.5: X-33 MkII* (16d, 132) ben4watches
    0'07" no.12: Landmaster (27d, 192) crazyp
    0'11" no.14: Bl. Silverwave (38d, 240) Wimm [-3d]
    0'22" no.7: Casio Diver (63d, 289) Craizeehair
    0'13" no.13: Wh. Silverwave (38d, 240) Wimm [-3d]
    0'09" no.15: Tuna Solar (22d, 185) Andym [-3d]

    Tuning Fork

    1'42" no.10: Ultronic (56d, 283) Tetlee [-4d]

    Spring Drive

    0'22" no.16: Snowflake (63d, 287) Murdoc [+1'07"]

    Mechanical and Sub-£1k Mechanical*

    0'00" no.29: Tudor BB 58 (57d, 282) gbn13 [-3d]
    0'00" no.28: BB 58 (58d, 278) Captain RockNRoll
    0'05" no.27: Submariner (59d, 281) Saint-Just
    0'02" no.31: Tudor BB GMT (46d, 251) KingKitega
    0'11" no.19: Globemaster (63d, 286) Der Amf
    0'10" no.20: Speedy FOIS (55d, 280) Phil0886 [-4d]
    -0'12" no.36: Black Turtle* (31d, 231) BrianR [-6d]
    -0'54" no.33: Seiko 5* (57d, 282) gbn13 [-3d]
    -1'41" no.22: PAM00312 (59d, 279) Phil0886
    1'55" no.26: BLNR (56d, 285) beechcust. [-6d] [+5']
    2'37" no.25: Patek (60d, 288) Martyn JC [-3d]

    0'28" no.32: Tudor P01 (16d, 132) ben4watches
    0'34" no.17: Breitling 806 (16d, 132) ben4watches

    Deadlist

    12. 7 weeks 6 days - no.30: BB GMT (AlphaEchoAlpha)
    11. 5 weeks 6 days - no.18: Aqua Terra (Craizeehair)
    10. 4 weeks 3 days - no.23: PAM00372 (marius)
    9. 4 weeks 1 day - no.38: Sinn (Ginpopy)
    8. 3 weeks 4 days - no.24: PAM00932 (marius)
    7. 2 weeks 6 days - no.21: Speedy Mk II (Tetlee)
    6. 2 weeks 6 days - no.37: Blue Turtle (crazyp)
    5. 2 weeks 4 days - no.9: GW-5000 (Oiljam)
    4. 2 weeks 3 days - no.39: Wempe (Ginpopy)
    3. 1 week 5 days - no.40: Smiths Clock (alfat33)
    2. 1 week 2 days - no.35: Presage (Der Amf)
    1. 1 week 0 days - no.34: Grey Seiko (Der Amf)
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    Many thanks for taking up the mantle this year :)

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    The challenge is simple: can your watch go through the 30 weeks until the clocks go back to GMT at the end of October without needing adjusting?

    There are different classifications: Quartz, HAQ, Spring Drive, Mechanical and sub-£1,000 Mechanical.

    For the HAQ, the expectation is that the watches won't need adjusting, the competition will be purely the accuracy over the 7 months. For regular quartz, part of the challenge will be whether it stays accurate enough for you not to need to correct it.

    For mechanicals, there's also the much harder challenge of keeping the thing going at all. How you manage this is up to you - automatic winding, hand winding, electric winder, all are permissible.

    I think last year only one mechanical made it through, Sean's Explorer I. I would love to see something like an 8 day Panerai entered.

    THE WATCHES DO NOT NEED TO BE WORN

    To enter post a photo of the watch taken today in front of time.is, with the date visible, and tell us what category its in.

    Multiple entries are encouraged!

    Every couple of weeks please return to the thread with a fresh picture, so we can track its progress. I'll be making little tables as we go, so we can compare.


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    A. HAQ - 5 watches

    (1) Breitling 2007 Aerospace (JohnnyE, post 17)
    (2) Grand Seiko GMT (boring_sandwich, post 4)
    (3) Grand Seiko SBGX061 (Beechcustom, post 18)
    (4) Longines VHP (Griswold, post 25)
    (5) Omega X-33 MkII (ben4watches, post 13)

    B. Quartz - 10 watches

    (6) Animal W002 (gbn13, post 60) [-3 days]
    (7) Casio Diver (Craizeehair, post 5)
    (8) GLX-5600 [starting -1s] (JGJG, post 31)
    (9) Casio GW-5000 [sync turned off] (Oiljam, post 20)
    (10) Longines Ultronic (Tetlee, post 69) [-4 days]
    (11) Q Timex 1979 (beechcustom, post 56) [-3 days]
    (12) Seiko Landmaster (crazyp, post 12)
    (13) Seiko Silverwave white (Wimm, post 58) [-3 days]
    (14) Seiko Silverwave black (Wimm, post 58) [-3 days]
    (15) Seiko Tuna Solar (Andym, post 59) [-3 days]

    C. Spring Drive - 1 watch

    (16) Grand Seiko Snowflake [starting -67s] (Murdoc, post 21)

    D. Mechanicals - 16 watches

    (17) Breitling 806 manual (ben4watches, post 13)
    (18) Omega Aqua Terra (Craizeehair, post 5)
    (19) Omega Globemaster (Der Amf, post 1)
    (20) Omega Speedmaster Pro (Phil0886, post 70) [-4 days]
    (21) Omega Speedmaster Pro Mark II (Tetlee, post 69) [-4 days]
    (22) Panerai 312 (Phil0886, post 27)
    (23) Panerai 372 (marius, post 16)
    (24) Panerai 932 (marius, post 68) [-4 days]
    (25) Patek Annual Calendar (Martyn JC, post 62) [-3 days]
    (26) Rolex BLNR [starting -300s] (beechcustom, post 74) [-6 days]
    (27) Rolex Submariner (Saint-Just, post 14)
    (28) Tudor BB 58 (Captain RockNRoll, post 24)
    (29) Tudor BB 58 (gbn13, post 60) [-3 days]
    (30) Tudor BB GMT (AlphaEchoAlpha, post 11)
    (31) Tudor BB GMT (King Kitega, post 9)
    (32) Tudor PO1 (ben4watches, post 13)

    E. Sub-£1,000 Mechanicals - 7 watches

    (33) Seiko 5 Sports (gbn13, post 60) [-3 days]
    (34) Seiko 7000-8000 [starting +1,800s] (Der Amf, post 71) [-5 days]
    (35) Seiko Presage (Der Amf, post 22)
    (36) Seiko Turtle black (BrianR, post 78) [-6 days]
    (37) Seiko Turtle blue (crazyp, post 12)
    (38) Sinn auto (Ginpopy, post 61) [-3 days]
    (39) Wempe Unitas (Ginpopy, post 61) [-3 days]

    F. Unwearables - 1 clock

    (40) Smiths Mantel Clock (alfat33, post 65) [-4 days]


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    Here's my entry, in the Mechanical category

    Last edited by Der Amf; 6th May 2020 at 16:25.

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    HAQ


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    Iíll try again this year, hopefully I can do a little better. The mechanicals are a challenge but hopefully the battery in the quartz will stay the course this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craizeehair View Post
    Iíll try again this year, hopefully I can do a little better. The mechanicals are a challenge but hopefully the battery in the quartz will stay the course this time.
    The hour hand on the Omega.....

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    Fell at the first hurdle!

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    I really wish I had got round to getting a winder on time for now, so that I could have entered both my autos.

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    Submitting an auto this year.. I should be able to keep this one alive to the end, and I've worked out a way to keep it accurate too. Thanks for running it OP


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKitega View Post
    Submitting an auto ... I've worked out a way to keep it accurate too
    Forgot to say, little nudges for balancing the gain and loss are wholly valid. Eg once every ten days or so, I rest my OCG crown up overnight. It's been running since mid Feb and is still bang on.

    Though anyone who's prepared to spend 7 months just taking what they're given will get plenty of respect!

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    I'm going to give it a go with this...


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    Iím going to enter two -

    The quartz - Seiko Landmaster SBDW005. Kinetic quartz movement, should be fine.

    Mechanical under £1000 - Seiko ĎSave the oceaní turtle.

    Hopefully I donít get too OCD with the date. Fingers crossed. If only the mechanical had an independent hour hand, life would be much easier. I donít think travel will be much of a factor....

    Iím considering another mechanical, my IWC. Iíll have a think of worth doing, maybe doable with lockdown to rotate both mechanicals.

    Pic taken with my Frogman - all 5 of my atomic Gs are syncing the same, so Iíll use that as a reference!




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    Mechanical manual wind 806 Re-addition



    Mechanical Auto Tudor PO1 (Ive adjusted it so its correct, its a minute out in the pic ��)



    HEQ X-33 MKII

    Last edited by ben4watches; 29th March 2020 at 12:56.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben4watches View Post
    Mechanical Tudor PO1
    Aren't you out by 1 minute (35 vs 36)?


    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I think last year only one mechanical made it through, Sean's Explorer I.
    Makes sense, so much easier for a 1-watch member.

    I travel weekly and find it impossible to keep my watches going while I'm away, and have 8 regular wearers, so I'm 99.9% confident I'd wouldn't be able to keep one watch running (I don't have an 8-day Panerai). Otherwise I'd be in. Thanks for running this.
    Last edited by jukeboxs; 29th March 2020 at 12:55. Reason: 2nd comment added

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    I will put the newest member of my Pamily 372
    I wish us all and our watches to reach the finish of this in good health!
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    My entry this time round... Breitling Aerospace E79362 from 2007. Entered in the HAQ category. Worn daily and will be on my wrist for the majority of this one


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    I'm in this year. Great thread! Hope we are all still here in 7 months!

    Grand Seiko SBGX061 in the HAQ category

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    its been sorted

    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    Aren't you out by 1 minute (35 vs 36)?




    Makes sense, so much easier for a 1-watch member.

    I travel weekly and find it impossible to keep my watches going while I'm away, and have 8 regular wearers, so I'm 99.9% confident I'd wouldn't be able to keep one watch running (I don't have an 8-day Panerai). Otherwise I'd be in. Thanks for running this.
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    The 2020 British Summer Time Challenge

    Iíve always wondered how my radio controlled G Shock would fare with the auto sync off. So Iíll join in with my GW-5000. It synced this morning so is spot on, Iíll turn the auto sync off today and see how it runs naturally with no help from the Anthorn Radio Station.

    Picture later tonight as Iím currently at work.




    (sorry for the poor photo, kitchen lighting not the best)
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    Hereís my entry into the Spring Drive category. GS Snowflake, currently 67s slow as I know it gains slightly. Hoping to keep this as my daily wearer until the end of BST.


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    A second entry for me: I've decided to enter this Seiko Presage - I don't wear it much, but I'll handwind it with the intention of getting hold of a winder soon.


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    We've 18 entries already.....room for plenty more!

    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    Many thanks for taking up the mantle this year :)
    Since the government has forbidden my professional existence and is paying me to sit on my arse, it's pretty much the least I could do

    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    Makes sense, so much easier for a 1-watch member.
    What can't have been easy for him was putting up with a watch that was a significantly out for a few months!

    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Hope we are all still here in 7 months!
    Do I need to appoint a deputy, just in case?

    Quote Originally Posted by Murdoc View Post
    Hereís my entry into the Spring Drive category. GS Snowflake, currently 67s slow as I know it gains slightly. Hoping to keep this as my daily wearer until the end of BST.
    I'm pleased to see at least one SD, as I've always been very keen to see what their long-term accuracy proves to be.

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    Sign me up! Black Bay 58.

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    Longines VHP in the HAQ category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I'm pleased to see at least one SD, as I've always been very keen to see what their long-term accuracy proves to be.
    Thanks, Iíve had a couple of spring drives in the past (a 600m Marinemaster - whatever happened to those, donít see many about nowadays; and a GS Diver). Over around a month I couldnít tell whether they were gaining or losing, they were bang on.

    I havenít had it long, but this Snowflake seems to gain a couple of seconds per week. Iím also interested to see how consistent it is over a longer period.

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    PAM312 - not an 8-day but at 3 days itís the longest power reserve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oiljam View Post
    Iíve always wondered how my radio controlled G Shock would fare with the auto sync off. So Iíll join in with my GW-5000.
    Great idea. The same question has gone through my mind before now as well. I seem to recollect that the manual for my 5600 (module 3063) gives the standard +/- 15 spm which feels pretty conservative to me.

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    Last orders at the bar, gentlemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil0886 View Post
    PAM312 - not an 8-day but at 3 days itís the longest power reserve.


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    How did you managed that not having hack second?

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    Unfortunately, my hoped-for 2020 challenger hasnít yet arrived, so hereís the GLX-5600 again.

    Quartz.
    Currently -1s.


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    And on that note, the bar is closed, and we have our 22 entries: 5 ◊ HAQ, 4 ◊ quartz, 1 ◊ Spring Drive, 10 ◊ Mechanical, 2 ◊ Sub-£1,000 Mechanical

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    Ah bugger just missed it, fair enough though. Best of luck everyone.

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    I was far too slow with this thread

    Good luck folks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    And on that note, the bar is closed, and we have our 22 entries: 5 ◊ HAQ, 4 ◊ quartz, 1 ◊ Spring Drive, 10 ◊ Mechanical, 2 ◊ Sub-£1,000 Mechanical
    The sub £1k is surprisingly lacking in numbers! Come on Seiko!

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    I am late to this challenge so I will forgo this year but will look for it next year, although we start and end DST here in the States on different Sundays in March and November than in Europe but I am sure I can just follow along since most all in here are from the UK and other parts. I would be in the Sub $1000 area but I wouldn't have any issue because I have a manual wind only watch and winding it every day is a routine that I enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    How did you managed that not having hack second?

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    Sorry, missed this - the P9000 does have hack seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil0886 View Post
    Sorry, missed this - the P9000 does have hack seconds.
    Sorry...
    I thought that you might discovered a special technique that you might wanna share :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    Sorry...
    I thought that you might discovered a special technique that you might wanna share :)

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    With the crown pulled out, light reverse pressure can stop the second hand on non-hacking movements, at least it works on my Speedy.

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    Any bets on which watch is likely to drop out first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil0886 View Post
    With the crown pulled out, light reverse pressure can stop the second hand on non-hacking movements, at least it works on my Speedy.
    This one seems to work on Pam as well but I was afraid to abuse it....don't want to affect in any way the machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp View Post
    Any bets on which watch is likely to drop out first?
    I hope not mine
    Just to make sure we'll stay in the race I'm manually wind it daily....even with a 3 days rezerve
    I'll also set an alarm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp View Post
    Any bets on which watch is likely to drop out first?
    Almost certain to be my Seiko Presage - last year it did very well because I was wearing it all day, when it is very accurate. Being handwound once a day and then just sitting there for most the day is proving to be much less of a happy regime for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Almost certain to be my Seiko Presage - last year it did very well because I was wearing it all day, when it is very accurate. Being handwound once a day and then just sitting there for most the day is proving to be much less of a happy regime for it.
    Your Presage is with the 6R15 movement, correct? It would have been interesting to compare with my the 'lesser' movement in my Turtle, knowing how wildly Seiko's unregulated movements can vary. You could wear it for a few hours a day instead to keep it ticking over. However always a pain to keep an auto going if you're not wearing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp View Post
    Your Presage is with the 6R15 movement, correct? It would have been interesting to compare with my the 'lesser' movement in my Turtle, knowing how wildly Seiko's unregulated movements can vary. You could wear it for a few hours a day instead to keep it ticking over. However always a pain to keep an auto going if you're not wearing it.
    My Globemaster lives on my wrist all day every day, just as the Presage did last year, so that's not a possibility. I've read a few times about how much better this grade of Seiko movement is when worn all the time, and that certainly fits in with what I found last year - I think I wore it from the end of March to the end of June without having to correct it. And then it had to be put into storage for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    My Globemaster lives on my wrist all day every day, just as the Presage did last year, so that's not a possibility. I've read a few times about how much better this grade of Seiko movement is when worn all the time, and that certainly fits in with what I found last year - I think I wore it from the end of March to the end of June without having to correct it. And then it had to be put into storage for a while.
    Fair enough, why change something when it's working for you! I have a 6R15 and when wearing it consistently, it's performed well enough.

    Funnily, I thought I'd be rotating through my watches during lockdown, ended up pretty much with the two watches in this challenge and occasionally my Ming 19.01 when on a walk and the sun is shining. Maybe I'll get a few more Natos to keep me excited!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp View Post
    Any bets on which watch is likely to drop out first?
    I don't know but if @ben4watches keeps his manual wind Breitling going until the end he deserves a medal, no a trophy, no an award!

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    The 4 watches I keep in my Carapaz case get wound daily. It used to be just the gmt to keep an eye on the date change (which has been fine for the 7 last weeks) and the Reverso to keep the triple date and moonphase correct so should not be too much of an issue to keep the Breitling going for 6 months.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetlee View Post
    I don't know but if @ben4watches keeps his manual wind Breitling going until the end he deserves a medal, no a trophy, no an award!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginpopy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by kneadking View Post
    I am late to this challenge so I will forgo this year but will look for it next year, although we start and end DST here in the States on different Sundays in March and November than in Europe but I am sure I can just follow along since most all in here are from the UK and other parts. I would be in the Sub $1000 area but I wouldn't have any issue because I have a manual wind only watch and winding it every day is a routine that I enjoy.
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    I was far too slow with this thread

    Good luck folks!
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    Ah bugger just missed it, fair enough though. Best of luck everyone.
    I've been up to the mountain and the voice in the clouds says: you can still enter. A photo of the watch in front of time.is is essential!

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