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    Quote Originally Posted by thebuffoon View Post
    When they re-open I'll be doing my usual of popping in, ordering 4 pints of Guinness and then apologising that I've forgotten my wallet and walking out. Petty but it cheers me up.
    I might be wrong, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the staff didn’t have to bear the cost of this. But you’re obviously used to doing this.

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    Will no-one at least marvel at his tax efficiency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanford View Post
    I'm not trying to justify it but there must be thousands of businesses not willing or able to pay their suppliers at the moment (and even in 'normal' times), so could we try and maintain a little perspective?
    Are you genuinely taking the rise?
    Last edited by number2; 28th March 2020 at 06:06.
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Like it or not - and I know you don't, the fact is that the referendum was a battle where truth was the casualty, Fromage, Gove, Bozo, Davies, Mogg and yes Tim Martin together with the rag top papers manipulated the public, you might be okay with that even though Britain is going to shit in a hand cart, but try not to think that we're all so gullible.
    G&D, please keep politics out of here

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    Strange that people jump on wannabe mods in SC but act thus elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Is it his business model or Brexit stance you don’t like? Because it all seems a bit like bad losers to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    As a business model I really can't see much wrong with Tim Martins approach to selling beer, there's a decent range of ales, the food whilst not inspiring looks fair value, no music and silent gambling machines, people can socialise and relax, it's an appealing formula, the pubs are mostly well run with a pretty dedicated staff, however he's now shown his true colours regarding staff and suppliers but I don't knock the formula.
    But you seem to be totally ok with Martin drip feeding his opinions to his customers, spreading his personal anti EU vendetta in his magazine and on beer mats, together with providing his customers with only certain right leaning newspapers, in an environment where the unwritten rule was always no politics or religion.
    Like it or not - and I know you don't, the fact is that the referendum was a battle where truth was the casualty, Fromage, Gove, Bozo, Davies, Mogg and yes Tim Martin together with the rag top papers manipulated the public, you might be okay with that even though Britain is going to shit in a hand cart, but try not to think that we're all so gullible.
    For the record I haven't been in a ''Spoons'' since the referendum, and if Martin was to go belly up tomorrow I might just PMSL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genesos View Post
    G&D, please keep politics out of here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Strange that people jump on wannabe mods in SC but act thus elsewhere.
    +1

    Agree with both, but do want these two together for genesis to read one more time.

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    All the places mentioned will operate as if nothing happened once all this is over,sadly people soon return to default mode,the ones on here saying they won't give their custom won't make a ripple.

    What is actually needed is for the owners of these companies to be put up against a chosen angry & skint employee,enter the boxing ring for a few rounds as a bonding session!,no nasty words allowed.All tickets sold going to charity.

    I'd watch that.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by genesos View Post
    G&D, please keep politics out of here
    Apologies, I permitted myself to rise to Ians (Oakys) bait - swallowed it hook line and sinker, and replied with a correct though admittedly "political" statement, so as such I'll "self isolate" on the naughty step for a while,.
    Stay safe everyone.
    Last edited by number2; 29th March 2020 at 01:27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Apologies, I permitted myself to rise to Ians (Oakys) bait - swallowed it hook line and sinker, and replied with a correct though admittedly "political" statement, so as such I'll "self isolate" on the naughty step for a while,.
    Stay safe everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I'm a member of CAMRA and I'll be resigning before my membership is due for renewal unless they end their relationship with this scum.
    The Good Pub Guide refuses to recognise Wetherspoons. I always assumed a good selection of well kept and cheep beer, generally in a nice building and with food available if you want it would be the definition of a good pub but seemingly not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxy100 View Post
    The Good Pub Guide refuses to recognise Wetherspoons. I always assumed a good selection of well kept and cheep beer, generally in a nice building and with food available if you want it would be the definition of a good pub but seemingly not.
    No doubt the publishers research the political views of the owners of all the establishments they recommend, to ensure they meet their somewhat left wing 'criteria'. Shame really because I always thought it was about the beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    No doubt the publishers research the political views of the owners of all the establishments they recommend, to ensure they meet their somewhat left wing 'criteria'. Shame really because I always thought it was about the beer.

    I thought everyone was meant to be keeping politics out of the G&D?
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    Well kept real ale in a Wetherspoons? It's hit and miss.

    The only reliable pint is Ruddles, and that's a characterless drop at the best of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana View Post
    I thought everyone was meant to be keeping politics out of the G&D?

    Thats rich coming from you

    No doubt you will post that about all the other comments with political meanings, yours especially?

    This whole thread is about the politics of the owner of the chain btw.

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    Let's all hope and pray they are right.

    I think nobody would be unhappy if the predictions of high fatality rates turned out to be wrong (with the possible exception of Dominic Cummings).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I'm a member of CAMRA and I'll be resigning before my membership is due for renewal unless they end their relationship with this scum.
    Can you send me your vouchers?

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    When he started he was portrayed and seen as some sort of folk hero, liberating the pub business from the hegemony of brewery ownership, and beating the brewers at their own game by selling well-made and well-kept beer at low prices.
    As time has gone on, his halo has been removed totally, as it has become clear that he wishes to screw over his suppliers and staff every bit as mercilessly as the breweries that he previously claimed some sort of moral superirority over.

    In his rush to offer the customer all that they want, cheaper than anyone else, he seems to have forgotten that his customers may also appreciate that the rest of the people in the business deserve a little more attention than he was willing to afford them.

    It is clear that he is not anything other than a very profit-driven man.

    I am leaving his politics out of this deliberately. I do know several people who used his places regularly, who now do not because of the Brexit stance. Myself included. It will have made a difference to him, however small.

    If and when they re-open, the list of those avoiding may get longer due to his posturing.

    I strongly suspect that the current climate will harm his business way more than any boycott, but it can't help him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Kind of sums up people really. I'm sure the staff think you're really clever.
    As I said, it's petty but works for me. I've never had more than a shrug of the shoulders from the staff who I'd imagine are no fan of the rambling twat Martin and his brexit loon fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebuffoon View Post
    As I said, it's petty but works for me. I've never had more than a shrug of the shoulders from the staff who I'd imagine are no fan of the rambling twat Martin and his brexit loon fans.
    Ahh, there you are.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hughtrimble View Post
    Well kept real ale in a Wetherspoons? It's hit and miss.

    The only reliable pint is Ruddles, and that's a characterless drop at the best of times.
    Very much so, rather matching the ambience. And the least said about the food, the better. They remind me of those awful identikit 'Irish' pubs that you find across the globe.
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    Dreadful places and if they don't recover from the current crisis I won't shear a tear. I have been in with a friend for a pint and some lunch at 12:00 on a Monday and there isn't a seat available in the house. There is no one at the bar because no one is spending any money. Loads of old folk sitting around with their £1 never ending cup of coffeee using the place as a sort of local community centre.

    I had a row with the manager of the Dee Hotel in West Kirby after complaining about an old dear who had come in off the streets to sit down and make a phone call which had been going on very loudly for over half an hour. No drinks, no food, just using the facilities for free. The manager claimed the old dear had as much right as us to be in the pub, but when I gave her a financial response that we had bought several pints and two meals and she hadn't spent a penny I questioned what the purpose of the pub was, a business to make a profit for the share holders or a doss house for every waif and stray on the streets to use as a shelter on a cold winter day.

    I was asked to leave, clearly priority went to those who do not spend money. As I walked out I imposed a lifetime ban on myself ever going back into one of those dreadful places and i gave up alcohol on the same day. Over 100 days later still not had a drink and I eagerly await the collapse of the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Thats rich coming from you

    No doubt you will post that about all the other comments with political meanings, yours especially?

    This whole thread is about the politics of the owner of the chain btw.
    For reasons I don't understand you seem to revel in trying to stir poop, I was in error bringing my political perspective to the thread and apologised accordingly, Tim Martin and Mike Ashley amongst others are parasitic employers, towards their staff, suppliers and probably HMRC, coincidentally they also seem to be on your side of the political spectrum.
    As I've said before - 'patterns it's all in the patterns'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    Just out of curiosity but when this is over will folks vote with their wallets and boycott Chinese made stuff?
    Have a for along time

    Rather pay more, and get preferably 'Made in the UK', or in the EU

    Just taking a stance ....

    Talking about employers, anyone banning Amazon....??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ingenioren View Post
    Have a for along time

    Rather pay more, and get preferably 'Made in the UK', or in the EU

    Just taking a stance ....

    Talking about employers, anyone banning Amazon....??????
    Have done for ages, and have minimal Facebook interactions, amazing how so many people who believe Britain is best are happy to support companies that screw British tax payers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    Dreadful places and if they don't recover from the current crisis I won't shear a tear. I have been in with a friend for a pint and some lunch at 12:00 on a Monday and there isn't a seat available in the house. There is no one at the bar because no one is spending any money. Loads of old folk sitting around with their £1 never ending cup of coffeee using the place as a sort of local community centre.

    I had a row with the manager of the Dee Hotel in West Kirby after complaining about an old dear who had come in off the streets to sit down and make a phone call which had been going on very loudly for over half an hour. No drinks, no food, just using the facilities for free. The manager claimed the old dear had as much right as us to be in the pub, but when I gave her a financial response that we had bought several pints and two meals and she hadn't spent a penny I questioned what the purpose of the pub was, a business to make a profit for the share holders or a doss house for every waif and stray on the streets to use as a shelter on a cold winter day.

    I was asked to leave, clearly priority went to those who do not spend money. As I walked out I imposed a lifetime ban on myself ever going back into one of those dreadful places and i gave up alcohol on the same day. Over 100 days later still not had a drink and I eagerly await the collapse of the company.
    Imagine that, a Wetherspoons providing some sort of social service by allowing a senior citizen to use its facilities; a shocking display of compassion rather than a lack of acumen?
    I think the rot set in with kids being allowed into pubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Have done for ages, and have minimal Facebook interactions, amazing how so many people who believe Britain is best are happy to support companies that screw British tax payers.
    Oh dear, you just can't bl.... help it, can you ?
    You'd rather support a foreign entity screwing us ?
    Get a life of sorts, please !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanford View Post
    Imagine that, a Wetherspoons providing some sort of social service by allowing a senior citizen to use its facilities; a shocking display of compassion rather than a lack of acumen?
    I think the rot set in with kids being allowed into pubs
    Yes, allowing kids in pubs wasn't a great idea. However the big old billy goats were more of a problem, my children were always terrified of them. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ingenioren View Post
    Oh dear, you just can't bl.... help it, can you ?
    You'd rather support a foreign entity screwing us ?
    Get a life of sorts, please !
    Perhaps you could think this through?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ingenioren View Post
    Oh dear, you just can't bl.... help it, can you ?
    You'd rather support a foreign entity screwing us ?
    Get a life of sorts, please !
    The EU is just as much a foreign entity to each of the member states as it was to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    Yes, allowing kids in pubs wasn't a great idea. However the big old billy goats were more of a problem, my children were always terrified of them. ;-)
    Generally, the billy goats weren't the problem, it was the nanny goats who accompanied the kids

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    For reasons I don't understand you seem to revel in trying to stir poop, I was in error bringing my political perspective to the thread and apologised accordingly, Tim Martin and Mike Ashley amongst others are parasitic employers, towards their staff, suppliers and probably HMRC, coincidentally they also seem to be on your side of the political spectrum.
    As I've said before - 'patterns it's all in the patterns'.
    TFB posts politics endlessly and you make no comment. Then he posts about me doing so and when I point out his hypocritical stance you accuse me of trying to stir poop. You should look in the mirror mate. Patterns, it's all in the patterns. Perhaps you should have a look at some of those on your side of the political spectrum and ask yourself why you fit in with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ingenioren View Post
    Have a for along time

    Rather pay more, and get preferably 'Made in the UK', or in the EU

    Just taking a stance ....

    Talking about employers, anyone banning Amazon....??????
    Why EU, will that change next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    I eagerly await the collapse of the company.
    And I am sure all the Wetherspoons employees couldn't agree with you more.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    No doubt the publishers research the political views of the owners of all the establishments they recommend, to ensure they meet their somewhat left wing 'criteria'. Shame really because I always thought it was about the beer.
    You're thinking of 'The Good Beer Guide'. I've always had the feeling pubs pay to appear in that one, while the Good Pub Guide is usually good. Saying that they keep giving the 'Town and City Pub of the Year' to the Wykeham Arms in Winchester, a Fullers chain pub that has one guest beer that never changes (a 5% honey beer just like their own Honey Dew) and where I've never had a decent pint of Pride. It was a magnificent pub 20 years ago when it was a treehouse. Anyway, I digress. The beer in the Winchester Wetherspoon is very well kept and it's the only place in Winchester I can semi-regularly buy a decent pint of Ringwood.

    Edit: oh how I love my autocorrect!
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    Quote Originally Posted by village View Post
    And I am sure all the Wetherspoons employees couldn't agree with you more.....
    Would you leave Tesco and go back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    Would you leave Tesco and go back...
    By the time Wetherspoon is allowed to reopen it's unlikely Tesco will still need to employ so many people.
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