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    I struggled to even use an online compound Calculator

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    Anyway dollar first minted in 1792

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    You could save yourself 82,021 years and just whack the first $10,000 into Shiba in April this year.....now you'd have more than Elon. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    You could save yourself 82,021 years and just whack the first $10,000 into Shiba in April this year.....now you'd have more than Elon. :-)
    Lolz.
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    I staid short S&P500 and Nasdaq futures from Friday, yesterday was a bit painful but looks better this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I staid short S&P500 and Nasdaq futures from Friday, yesterday was a bit painful but looks better this morning.
    Send a Christmas card to the CEO of Moderna

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    Crypto bounce underway , Moderna boss mudded

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    I just closed most of my index shorts, dunno but looks like the to buying has just commenced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I just closed most of my index shorts, dunno but looks like the to buying has just commenced.
    That looked like a good grade for about an hour, and then booooom.

    Well, just went long at 4,568.
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    Moderna down 10%. Has he opened his gob again?

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    *US Labor Nov Nonfarm Payrolls +210K; Consensus +573K

    Print more money!

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    Tesla creamed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Tesla creamed

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    Nice. Still short my accidental position from $1,171.

    Just closed at $971
    Last edited by Raffe; 6th December 2021 at 16:10.
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    US futures green

    Except Tesla

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    US futures green

    Except Tesla

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    ??

    Premarket doesn't open for another 30 minutes, and German listed Tesla shares are up.

    Weak sales numbers for Tesla out of China, but since when is Tesla about selling cars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    ??

    Premarket doesn't open for another 30 minutes, and German listed Tesla shares are up.

    Weak sales numbers for Tesla out of China, but since when is Tesla about selling cars?
    What position you taking now on Tesla Raffe? Hard to call I think , seems to be buying a million satellites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    What position you taking now on Tesla Raffe? Hard to call I think , seems to be buying a million satellites

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    I am on the side for the moment. Actually still fundamentally very bearish, there are a few ugly stories brewing about securities fraud tied to the marketing of FSD (faked videos misrepresented as autonomous, see NY Times story) - but then there is this sticky rumour of another stock split (possibly tomorrow?), which is obviously no reason for the price to move except that it's Tesla and it will sky-rocket by double digits if this happens. On the other hand, I feel there is a lot of short-term speculative money sitting in the stock waiting for a stock-split rally to sell into, might become uncomfortable for those if the rally doesn't happen.

    I rather wait and see, would be happy to sell into a rally or if it breaks below $1,000 again. Until then, have fun watching the daily moves.
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    Evergrande default finally happening?

    BBC News - Evergrande: China property developer debt default fears grow
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59573985


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    Good luck!

    In other news Wetherspoons in full Kendal Roy attack

    https://twitter.com/thugclive/status...Y_cR9n8Ug&s=19

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    Hindenburg just announced a new report for tomorrow. Fun and games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Hindenburg just announced a new report for tomorrow. Fun and games.
    Ooopsie.

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    Tesla down another 5%

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    Yeah they are normal, he might be a sociopath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Yeah they are normal, he might be a sociopath

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    Lolz. You might be on to something.
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    You alright, papa?

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    I had missed the earlier tweets:



    Somebody a bit depressed? The fanbois do not like it, stock dropping like a stone. Managed to sell some at $980.... No idea what's going on tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Managed to sell some at $980.... No idea what's going on tbh.
    Traded as high as $1,003 after hitting $973 within two minutes of me selling at $980.

    Gosh, I really have no idea what's cooking here. Bought some NQ futures against it and will let it run for a bit.
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    Mega lokz what is he smoking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Mega lokz what is he smoking

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    It's not smoked, it is snorted.
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    Tesla kept this apparently recurring issue quiet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Tesla kept this apparently recurring issue quiet!
    This is old stuff, keeps happening:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/136377...7658490111523/

    https://www.motorbiscuit.com/this-is...slas-to-crash/

    The cars are the worst vehicles ever produced. They are built in tents on a huge junkyard.

    https://tslaq.org/fremont-factory-gallery/
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    More Musk madness

    https://youtu.be/2vuMzGhc1cg

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    Closed my Tesla short just above breakeven.

    This is just crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Closed my Tesla short just above breakeven.

    This is just crazy.
    I shouldn't have done that. Well....


    Blood shedding in the crypto complex, ARB, RIOT, MARA and MSTR being decimated. Also GME and AMC slaughtered. A lot of pain today for meme and momentum stocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post


    Blood shedding in the crypto complex
    Is that due to Omicron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estoril-5 View Post
    Is that due to Omicron?
    Who knows, but that would make little sense.

    When equities trade down on virus uncertainties, that makes sense as company earning could be affected. But crypto? No earnings, just the belief that there will be people willing to pay more next week/month/year - so why would Omnicron have an effect? Well, if you believe in a big economic crisis due to Omnicron, which would in turn influence people's means to spend money of crypto, but that's a long shot.

    Honestly, I think short term crypto prices are mostly manipulation by a handful of large trading firms and long term it's dependent on remaining able to sign additional people to the crowd of believers.
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    We will know of it's Omicron caused when we get the good news officially it's not a dangerous variant. If we get mega bounce then yeah it had an impact. If not the recent dippage has been about all the other genuinely bad economic news

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    We will know of it's Omicron caused when we get the good news officially it's not a dangerous variant. If we get mega bounce then yeah it had an impact. If not the recent dippage has been about all the other genuinely bad economic news

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    Simply speaking, the short-term correlation between asset classes is very high. It's either risk on, or it's risk off. When it's risk off, even assets that have no credible connection to the development of the pandemic, are selling because they are deemed risky because of their volatility.

    Such are markets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Simply speaking, the short-term correlation between asset classes is very high. It's either risk on, or it's risk off. When it's risk off, even assets that have no credible connection to the development of the pandemic, are selling because they are deemed risky because of their volatility.

    Such are markets.
    Yeah, can't really claim Crypto isn't volatile when bowl head tweets 20% on Doge in 3 hours

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    Not a lot of Christmas cheer around is there

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    Is anyone struggling to log into HL this am? Just won't recognise my credentials, even on the phone app with biometric login

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    It works for me. I try not to log in as the INO shares are still there showing a rather large % loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikGixer750 View Post
    It works for me. I try not to log in as the INO shares are still there showing a rather large % loss.
    Cheers, works fine for me now also, maybe just a temporary bug. And yes, like you I wish I'd not bothered logging in!

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    I think the top is in for this year. Just sold S&P, TSLA and bitcoin.

    I am not going to die on this (or any other) hill, so will stop if we trade new highs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I think the top is in for this year. Just sold S&P, TSLA and bitcoin.

    I am not going to die on this (or any other) hill, so will stop if we trade new highs.

    Just closed the short Tesla at a small loss (would have been a nice profit yesterday at $1,080) and went long*. Not looking for a big move, but the lemmings will jump on this today as Elon seems to have finished his selling.

    Short bitcoin going well, but not yet expecting the collapse before we do a final rally to $50k.


    * And that was a very bad idea. Short on the way up, long on the way down. I think I am already done with today before the market opens. Grrrhhhh.

    ** Good thing I cut the first loss - $ 1,075 now, that would have been ugly.
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    An eve of New Year's Eve warm up quiz. What does this chart depict?



    And for bonus points, by how much will the fund raiser benefit?

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    It’s gonna benefit by £50 from me anyway :-)

    Unless it’s a wild 24hrs!

    Funnily I didn’t think there was a cat in hells chance of losing this one. In fact I’d have taken the bet at 75k. Funny old game this crypto lark..

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    Looks like I am going to lose at least one of the four bets, and that is the bet that I didn't want to have.

    Ryan posted this nonsense comment on 30 August (the S&P500 was trading at 4,500 pre-opening), typing "The fall could be massive".

    I challenged him to explain what the graph actually said and he couldn't explain, but he anyway tried to use it as explanation why the market was bound to fall. I wasn't bearish at all and thought this was complete nonsense, so I asked him to give me his level for the S&P500 for year-end with the intention to buy, upon which he replied with 4,700 - minutes after he had argued how overvalued the market was at 4,500 and that it was destined to fall. Well, I found that so funny that I accepted the lower side of the bet (I almost had taken the upper side anyway, but then I left it to him).

    Only Ryan can pull this off, really.




    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    It’s gonna benefit by £50 from me anyway :-)

    Unless it’s a wild 24hrs!

    Funnily I didn’t think there was a cat in hells chance of losing this one. In fact I’d have taken the bet at 75k. Funny old game this crypto lark..
    It's only 5% under, wouldn't require a wild 24 hours to flip above. We will see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    And for bonus points, by how much will the fund raiser benefit?
    250 quid. What do I win?
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    Hope? One day left, less than 2 % to go.


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