'chaos at the borders'
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Nuts, lorry’s lining up at Dover in yet the UK markets don’t seem too bothered.Originally Posted by Daveya.
'chaos at the borders'
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It does feel like the end of 2020 is being funnelled into a perfect storm of Covid outbreak 3.0 with more than a possible chance of no deal Brexit..
"digging deep into the financial documents" .... "planes, trains, ... going electric" .... "we are only at the beginning"
https://twitter.com/wealth/status/1339930055292628992
The Thing! Hahaha made me laugh especially the tense blood testing scene...
Don’t watch it if you don’t like blood!
https://youtu.be/M2o2FRwn_hg
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Blimey, the special effects have not aged well. I enjoyed the film at the time though, very tense.
An interesting article posted elsewhere:
https://portfoliocharts.com/2020/12/...money-in-2020/
To sum up unless you are an investing genius you probabaly lost out if you pulled out of the market & tried to time a re-entry. Staying invested was amost certainly the best option.
Yup. Hindsight is a bitch.
They say....almost every passive investor tries to time the market.....once.
A pretty decent analysis even of its US centric.
Although given how COVID is revving up I’m still not convinced we are out of the woods yet despite the vaccine.
US futures just opened, pretty much unchanged versus the late Friday rally.
Go figure. (Might be related to the news that the Corona relief package in the US was announced 10 minutes before market opening - what coincidence).
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Is it all a desperate attempt by Trump not to let the markets slide until he’s left government??
I mean, announcing yet another $900bn in money printing just seems so wrong. That’s nearly a trillion dollars more cash just plucked from thin air!!
All this extra money should be making everything worth less, but still the markets keep rising. Obviously the money has to end up somewhere, but how does QE actually help the layperson on the street when all it seems to do is end up on Tesla’s bottom line?
One would assume that the announcement of more QE would mean another big rise in most FTSE/S&P stocks, but the markets seem so overblown, it’d be a brave man who chucks a load of money in now...no?
Its only 27 Trillion or $ 220’000 per US tax payer
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
129% of GDP
“I have created the greatest economy the world has ever seen” .....er no.
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FTSE being killed
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Yep no ‘Santa Rally’ this year
WOS & JD down 5%
Only takes the FTSE100 back to where it was at the start of December. I thought the rally was a bit odd, to be honest. Maybe resolution of US election and vaccine news over exuberance. Brexit negotiations didn’t seem to offer anything positive for UK dependent businesses.
FTSE only European market that is still in pos for December
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not anymore @ 11.22
FTSE 100 6344 V 6384 (1st)
DAX and IBEX also sliding but even more than FTSE...
and the CAC looks really cack.
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Yes FTSE still fairing better though
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Think I'll buy myself some oil for Christmas and a slice of BP
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Today is the best trading day so far in 2020 for me.
Some bargains for sure, wife not happy if I fill the garage with barrels of oil so will settle for some sneaky BP instead
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Anyone punting in Dixon's Carphone?
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FTSE dead cat or too much coffee?
Still up on a month ago
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Today was even better. Quite a run into the year end, both longs and shorts delivering this week. It has been a shaky year until last week, suddenly turns into a good year (only in regards to investments, still a pretty shitty year for everything else).
Yep, new strains can do one, all about the Brexits apparently
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My airlines were up 3.5% and an energy holding ^8.5%.
We bought some Roku stock at the start of December, it's 25 per cent up to date.
The last two weeks were complete bonkers.
This is the largest position in my portfolio:
This has been a good year for investing, Watches of Switzerland has been stellar, rich people keep getting richer and they’re pretty much ‘the’ Rolex AD as well as running the boutiques
The other one, first company to list from Scotland is 2 years, Calnex, doubled up in a couple of months
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Yep, it’s definitely overheated, I suspect once the stimulus stops so dies the momentum...government policy on how to deal with the borrowing will be interesting to say the least
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Wow, what a month so far.
I will be looking to lighten up and sell some of my positions over the next days. Target is at least 50% reduction of risk before New Year.
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
Pre markets looking beyond the nasty covids and seemingly like the Brexit deal and possible the news from Oxford
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Well city don't care about full hospitals then, roll on Brexjt and well done Oxford
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Some getting killed on XRP, 0.18
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Bitcoin next?
Dunno, it's relentless, 30k not far off
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I have done really well off John Menzies I still think it has some legs as a longer hold if it dips down below 250 again...
Just ticked over 100% for me. Might sell and buy an Oyster Perpetual with the proceeds.
I think December has paid for a lot of new watches
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Could someone explain for my benefit why AZN would be down today, and certainly down more than the rest of the FTSE is?
This guy, Barry Norris, talked a while back about shorting vaccine companies: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcas...=1000501226758
Me, not a clue, just glad I sold out my oil stocks early in the year, though they're a long term sure thing.
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My guess is that lots of private investors piled in thinking the vaccine news would make them millions, this morning they realised it won’t, so they’ve piled out.
But we all knew the vaccine wasn’t going to make them any profit, from the start, so I’m not sure why people piled in.
That didn't go so well. Intended to sell into early strength after the US open yesterday, but that faded faster than a toupee in a hurricane. Some of my microcaps opened at +5%, only to get hammered to -10% within five minutes of trading. Such is the fun of investing into illiquid stocks. So I am stuck exactly where I didn't want to be: with a bag of risky stocks in a very illiquid market. Managed to reduce some positions today, but to add insult to injury my largest shorts started to move against me today.
Gave back almost a quarter of my December gains within 48 hours. Not nice.
I always had you down as a sports Rolex fan, Ally.
Well that's FTSE saying goodbye to 2020 with a bang
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He prefers to auction those off, maybe the FR will benefit again from the Oyster Perpetual?
Can we settle this today?
Yeah I assume I've lost?
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Just checked the fixing page, no price yet. You want to wait for it?
Lol I trust you , I'll pay into the fundy over the weekend and post backJust checked the fixing page, no price yet. You want to wait for it?
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