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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Yes that's a Model S. It is a barge.

    You should compare Model 3 Performance with M3. Way better handling. The new S Plaid is lighting fast acceleration but borderline dangerous with brakes unfit for purpose and garbage handling. It is a dud. No Tesla will out handle a Porsche but specifically the BMW M3 is very much in the sights
    I think anyone comparing a model 3 performance with a new M3 and thinking about anything being better handling wise rather than initial acceleration is… really not sure what the word would be to be honest. Yes, I know it was faster on a couple of tracks - what’s it like on the ring and some real world track examples instead of the top gear track?

    &

    How just many 0-100 runs can a Tesla carry out before it decides it needs to sit still and cool down?

    I was very surprised how bad the panel gaps and interior was on my neighbours Tesla, but one of the consultants I know well loves his and has just bought another two for his firm!

    I’ll stick to petrol for fun, and continue to commute in on electric.

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    SMT £998
    TSLA $816
    MSTR $317
    RIOT $13
    COIN $168
    HOOD $10
    AMC $14
    GME $93
    MARA $19
    ARB 65p
    TIGR $3.81
    OUST $2.99
    AVCT 97p
    NCYT 173p
    CENN $1.70 (ex NAKD, after 1/15 reverse split = $0.11)

    Some forum favourites are looking a bit bruised. Just saying.
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    Tesla down 31% in last 3 weeks, the tents are leaking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    SMT £998
    TSLA $816
    MSTR $317
    RIOT $13
    COIN $168
    HOOD $10
    AMC $14
    GME $93
    MARA $19
    ARB 65p
    TIGR $3.81
    OUST $2.99
    AVCT 97p
    NCYT 173p
    CENN $1.70 (ex NAKD, after 1/15 reverse split = $0.11)

    Some forum favourites are looking a bit bruised. Just saying.



    You've listed my portfolio! :cry:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    SMT £998
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    I’m half tempted to buy some SMT at that price …

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    Everything I'm in is down to be fair. Various funds as well as the play money in equities. Sea of red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    ...and down 100 points again, just for the fun of it.

    Most weeks don't move 100 points in normal markets. This week we are seeing multiple 100 point up and down moves every day.
    And 100 150 points for today.

    Unbelievable.
    Last edited by Raffe; 28th January 2022 at 21:59. Reason: 150 now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    I’m half tempted to buy some SMT at that price …
    The price I stupidly sold it all at was about 955. Now I look back at the 12 month chart and feel like even more of a plonker. Cost me about half of my pension that I’d spent 22 years carefully and passively accumulating. Ouch. Rookie errors made, lessons learned.

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    Dow +2.8% since todays low, wild week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Dow +2.8% since todays low, wild week
    Average daily range in the S&P during all of last year was 41 points, or 0.97%

    This week's average: 145 points, 3.32%

    Biggest swing on Monday with 4.42%

    The net move for the week? Up by 34 points/0.77% Congratulations if you lost your shirt trading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Average daily range in the S&P during all of last year was 41 points, or 0.97%

    This week's average: 145 points, 3.32%

    Biggest swing on Monday with 4.42%

    The net move for the week? Up by 34 points/0.77% Congratulations if you lost your shirt trading.
    Did you lose your shirt or just shit down for the week? I don't know anything about your world but that seemed a crazy week and a lot of luck required to make money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Did you lose your shirt or just shit down for the week? I don't know anything about your world but that seemed a crazy week and a lot of luck required to make money
    Bad Monday and flat rest of the week. I am okay, only managed risks during the rest of the week, no active positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Bad Monday and flat rest of the week. I am okay, only managed risks during the rest of the week, no active positions.
    Well done, must have been hard week to resist chasing Mondays losses

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    As a Tesla owner I do see that in 2014 they were a game changer in the large touchscreen delivers controls that could be changed.

    That to me is still the fundamental difference between Tesla and say an Audi - that they can and have literally sent out new buttons/dash via updates.

    If I was an eccentric millionaire who had bought an early model then I an sure I would have bought stock and been very happy about it.

    Today they probably are a better tech prospect than other cars but probably not better cars for much longer- tax breaks have made their product sell, I would have to look far more carefully at running one if it wasn't a company car and I think it will be the changing tax/benefits that decide Tesla's fate as much as the improving competition.

    That said it is a great commuting car and the recognition is out of all proportion so I can see how brand and share value are higher than sales would value them at.

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    “a Tesla is a disposable car that lasts for 8 years maximum”

    https://twitter.com/gwestr/status/14...213309441?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    And 100 150 points for today.

    Unbelievable.
    120 today.
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    Time maybe to dip my toe into the water again:

    • $25K in S&P Index fund
    • $25K in 5* Balanced fund
    • $25K in 5* Bond fund

    New moves for me as retiree.

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    Psst. Here is a safe one. Don't tell anyone.

    https://twitter.com/TikTokInvestors/...07241809924100
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    Was the daily recall for Tesla already announced for today?

    Oh, 817,143 cars in the US. Well, could be worse.
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    The rate of recall is incredible, I have been driving for 25 years and can only remember having a formal recall once

    I was about to say it was an iPad on wheels, but an iPad is well built…


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    Meta and PayPal both down 25% each ish

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    Sold Amazon short at $3,277

    Crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Sold Amazon short at $3,277

    Crazy.
    Just bought back half at $3,025. Nice.


    * also closed the rest at $3,185. Was a bit surprised by the stock's strength after the initial dip, it went to $3,224 so was quite happy to be able to buy it on the way down again. No intention to remain short, this was just a punt given the hilariously wrong AH rally yesterday.
    Last edited by Raffe; 4th February 2022 at 23:51.
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    Another dumpster fire. They keep happening, given the piles of trash all over the plant. Just a question of time until people get hurt. If that was a GM or Ford plant with unions, production would have stopped long time ago.

    https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...emont/2801413/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Another dumpster fire. They keep happening, given the piles of trash all over the plant. Just a question of time until people get hurt. If that was a GM or Ford plant with unions, production would have stopped long time ago.

    https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...emont/2801413/
    Prediction: We haven't heard the last of this fire yet.

    https://twitter.com/WhompyWombat/sta...63457742929921
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    That evening when Elon admitted in a late night tweet that FSD will likely never come....

    What about the tens of thousands of twunts who have paid $10,000 a piece for this scam? That will be a lot of refunds to process...
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    Avacta being ridden like a Blackpool donkey again this week. Brutal.

    Fascinating to watch this all play out as some of the these companies are slowly found out.

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    Markets don't seem to like WW3 odd

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    It was a crap idea even before they knew about geomagnetic storms

    https://youtu.be/2vuMzGhc1cg

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    I finished looking around at various types of investments...they all suck in today's market (given inflation worries, rising interest rates, Russia/Ukraine, etc.).

    I decided to put some money into each of the world's three largest gold mining companies. At least their trends are UP!

    Am I crazy...I've never bought into gold before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacifichrono View Post
    I finished looking around at various types of investments...they all suck in today's market (given inflation worries, rising interest rates, Russia/Ukraine, etc.).

    I decided to put some money into each of the world's three largest gold mining companies. At least their trends are UP!

    Am I crazy...I've never bought into gold before?
    Been invested into GOLD and NG for a good week now. It's what held my portfolio up, together with my short Tesla and Peloton positions.
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    Another day, another fantasy covid-pump hammered. Synairgen’s turn this time:

    https://www.lse.co.uk/SharePrice.asp...hare=Synairgen

    Reality bites eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peck View Post
    Another day, another fantasy covid-pump hammered. Synairgen’s turn this time:

    https://www.lse.co.uk/SharePrice.asp...hare=Synairgen

    Reality bites eh
    Ouch, -85%.

    Just had a look at the chat thread. That makes for painful reading, and for some hope never ends and they are buying more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Ouch, -85%.

    Just had a look at the chat thread. That makes for painful reading, and for some hope never ends and they are buying more.
    Its a thread of active cognitive dissonance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Ouch, -85%.

    Just had a look at the chat thread. That makes for painful reading, and for some hope never ends and they are buying more.
    Their apparent devotion to “averaging down” is a constant source of amazement to me. Genuinely mind-blowing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Its a thread of active cognitive dissonance
    Reminds me of our local Argo, AMC and MSTR holders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peck View Post
    Their apparent devotion to “averaging down” is a constant source of amazement to me. Genuinely mind-blowing
    That and the inability to sell at a loss are the most common reasons for financial ruin.

    You wouldn't believe the amount of time I have spent talking to people trying to coach them about investments, 80% are lost cases because they cannot sell at a loss. It is painful to see how they rather ruin the fruit of a lifetime of working than cut a loss and move on.

    Mind-blowing doesn't get close.
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    Wowserz. Had regrets cutting that one last summer, but with these one product biotechs.. a bad readout literally kills the whole thesis.

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    I’ve come to the conclusion these stock chat rooms are pure and utter poison for those that don’t know what they’re doing. Genuinely dangerous places, especially if you’re susceptible to being misled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peck View Post
    I’ve come to the conclusion these stock chat rooms are pure and utter poison for those that don’t know what they’re doing. Genuinely dangerous places, especially if you’re susceptible to being misled
    Echo chambers, all of them. We regularly get our fill from the Argo chat room in this thread.

    If you want the real crazies, you have to go to AMC/GME: Synthetic shares, illegal shorting, short ladder attacks, digital popcorn. I sometimes listen to a Twitter Space about it, crazy or deluded are the only words that come to mind.

    And then there is reddit...
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    Madness, think I'll stick to Crytpo non of that there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Madness, think I'll stick to Crytpo non of that there

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    So far so good on my gold mining plays.

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    Info of no use whatsoever

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    Just added $25k into a gold EFT...fingers crossed.

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    “War what is it good for ?…absolutely nothing- say it agan”

    I thought i had bought the dip …it would appear the wrong dip….haha…

    JD Sports battered as is seemingly everything clearly ‘war’ will stop teens buying trainers and hit lycra sales…

    Hey ho could be worse poor buggers in Ukraine must be horrendous hearing bombs dropping lets hope common sense and humanity prevails but somehow i think not Vlad is on a personal mission ‘world be dammed’ …. Blofeld is real.

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    Cutting some of my Tesla short, buying some S&P futures, pruning my GOLD and NG positions.

    Not sure about medium term, but market looks a bit stretched to the downside for the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Cutting some of my Tesla short, buying some S&P futures, pruning my GOLD and NG positions.

    Not sure about medium term, but market looks a bit stretched to the downside for the moment.
    OMG, I don't think I have ever had a bigger 30 minute return on a few changes.
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