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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    That's called hedging your bets, I suppose?
    I knew it was a 7 something got that far in my head

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    Everybody else having supper, I suppose?

    I calculate 51,735 days, which is 141.6 years. So No. 1 was the correct answer, closest to 70.
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    I struggled to even use an online compound Calculator

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    Anyway dollar first minted in 1792

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    You could save yourself 82,021 years and just whack the first $10,000 into Shiba in April this year.....now you'd have more than Elon. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    You could save yourself 82,021 years and just whack the first $10,000 into Shiba in April this year.....now you'd have more than Elon. :-)
    Lolz.
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    I staid short S&P500 and Nasdaq futures from Friday, yesterday was a bit painful but looks better this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I staid short S&P500 and Nasdaq futures from Friday, yesterday was a bit painful but looks better this morning.
    Send a Christmas card to the CEO of Moderna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Send a Christmas card to the CEO of Moderna

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    S&P was down 50 points already before he spoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    S&P was down 50 points already before he spoke.
    Card retracted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Card retracted

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    He can have a card once we are down another 50.
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    Crypto bounce underway , Moderna boss mudded

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    I just closed most of my index shorts, dunno but looks like the to buying has just commenced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I just closed most of my index shorts, dunno but looks like the to buying has just commenced.
    That looked like a good grade for about an hour, and then booooom.

    Well, just went long at 4,568.
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    Moderna down 10%. Has he opened his gob again?

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    *US Labor Nov Nonfarm Payrolls +210K; Consensus +573K

    Print more money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    MSTR will be over $1000 in the next week or month.
    ...or next year?


    Last edited by Raffe; 3rd December 2021 at 21:44.
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    Four weeks until the end of the year, time to take account of the outstanding charity bets:


    1. Bitcoin above or under $50,000 on midnight 31/12/2021 with Demonloop, £50 charity bet struck 19 November 2020 (!).

    BTC/USD at $53,000 now, coin-drop with small advantage for Demonloop.

    2. AMC stock above or under $50 on 31/12/2021 with Chinnock, £50 charity bet struck 04 June 2021.

    AMC trading at $27.98 now, not impossible but I'd say >80% odds I win

    3. Argo Blockchain will trade at or above 400p anytime between now and 31/12/2021 with Mr. Noble, £50 charity bet struck 30 June 2021

    Argo high so far 173p since, closed today at 123p. Nothing is ever impossible but I would say >95% odds I win.

    4. S&P500 index above or below 4,700 on 31/12/2021 with Ryanb741, £50 charity bet struck 30 August 2021

    S&P trading 4,539 at the moment, coin-drop with small advantage for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    ...or next year?
    Relax, everything's cool and under control. They've been busy this last couple of months sweet talking a bunch of (hot) air heads into handing over $414,400,000 which has been speedily converted into bitcoin at what will soon be seen as the giveaway price of just over $59K/BTC.

    https://www.microstrategy.com/conten...11-29-2021.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    Relax, everything's cool and under control. They've been busy this last couple of months sweet talking a bunch of (hot) air heads into handing over $414,400,000 which has been speedily converted into bitcoin at what will soon be seen as the giveaway price of just over $59K/BTC.

    https://www.microstrategy.com/conten...11-29-2021.pdf

    Pass me some more oofle dust please Mike.
    Seen that. Micky S will be the ultimate bagholder when the awards are handed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Four weeks until the end of the year, time to take account of the outstanding charity bets:

    1. Bitcoin above or under $50,000 on midnight 31/12/2021 with Demonloop, £50 charity bet struck 19 November 2020 (!).

    BTC/USD at $53,000 now, coin-drop with small advantage for Demonloop.

    2. AMC stock above or under $50 on 31/12/2021 with Chinnock, £50 charity bet struck 04 June 2021.

    AMC trading at $27.98 now, not impossible but I'd say >80% odds I win


    3. Argo Blockchain will trade at or above 400p anytime between now and 31/12/2021 with Mr. Noble, £50 charity bet struck 30 June 2021

    Argo high so far 173p since, closed today at 123p. Nothing is ever impossible but I would say >95% odds I win.

    4. S&P500 index above or below 4,700 on 31/12/2021 with Ryanb741, £50 charity bet struck 30 August 2021

    S&P trading 4,539 at the moment, coin-drop with small advantage for me.
    I’m going for a “Dip before the Rip”

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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    Relax, everything's cool and under control. They've been busy this last couple of months sweet talking a bunch of (hot) air heads into handing over $414,400,000 which has been speedily converted into bitcoin at what will soon be seen as the giveaway price of just over $59K/BTC.

    https://www.microstrategy.com/conten...11-29-2021.pdf

    Pass me some more oofle dust please Mike.
    I remember that last time bitcoin was in the 30k area, MSTR was rather close to insolvency. I wonder where that level of now - somewhere between 25k and 30k for bitcoin?

    Things can happen fast....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Four weeks until the end of the year, time to take account of the outstanding charity bets:


    3. Argo Blockchain will trade at or above 400p anytime between now and 31/12/2021 with Mr. Noble, £50 charity bet struck 30 June 2021

    Argo high so far 173p since, closed today at 123p. Nothing is ever impossible but I would say >95% odds I win.

    We could drop the price target to 300p and double the bet if you like, Ralf? Or, I'm happy to leave it where it is. I'd say the odds you win are more like 70%, based on the fact that crypto can be wild and if BTC does take off, it'll likely go bonkers, and Argo will too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    We could drop the price target to 300p and double the bet if you like, Ralf? Or, I'm happy to leave it where it is. I'd say the odds you win are more like 70%, based on the fact that crypto can be wild and if BTC does take off, it'll likely go bonkers, and Argo will too.
    Ok, consider it done.

    300p, 31/12, 100 quid.

    I offered 500 quid back in June.
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    The only possible way I saw me losing the Bitcoin bet was a huge drop, badly timed, around the year end. As that drop has happened in the last few days I’m confident I’ll get over the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    The only possible way I saw me losing the Bitcoin bet was a huge drop, badly timed, around the year end. As that drop has happened in the last few days I’m confident I’ll get over the line
    We will see if we are done here with the correction. I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Ok, consider it done.

    300p, 31/12, 100 quid.

    I offered 500 quid back in June.

    I fear I've just cost myself another 50 quid. God job it's for charity!!

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    Tesla creamed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Tesla creamed

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    Nice. Still short my accidental position from $1,171.

    Just closed at $971
    Last edited by Raffe; 6th December 2021 at 16:10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    I fear I've just cost myself another 50 quid. God job it's for charity!!
    Solid assessment.
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    US futures green

    Except Tesla

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Four weeks until the end of the year, time to take account of the outstanding charity bets:


    1. Bitcoin above or under $50,000 on midnight 31/12/2021 with Demonloop, £50 charity bet struck 19 November 2020 (!).

    BTC/USD at $53,000 now, coin-drop with small advantage for Demonloop.

    2. AMC stock above or under $50 on 31/12/2021 with Chinnock, £50 charity bet struck 04 June 2021.

    AMC trading at $27.98 now, not impossible but I'd say >80% odds I win

    3. Argo Blockchain will trade at or above 400p anytime between now and 31/12/2021 with Mr. Noble, £50 charity bet struck 30 June 2021

    Argo high so far 173p since, closed today at 123p. Nothing is ever impossible but I would say >95% odds I win.

    4. S&P500 index above or below 4,700 on 31/12/2021 with Ryanb741, £50 charity bet struck 30 August 2021

    S&P trading 4,539 at the moment, coin-drop with small advantage for me.
    i dont understand whats going on but im glad the fundraiser is benefitting :-)

    Keep up the good work Raffe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    US futures green

    Except Tesla

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    ??

    Premarket doesn't open for another 30 minutes, and German listed Tesla shares are up.

    Weak sales numbers for Tesla out of China, but since when is Tesla about selling cars?
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    Evergrande default finally happening?

    BBC News - Evergrande: China property developer debt default fears grow
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59573985


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    ??

    Premarket doesn't open for another 30 minutes, and German listed Tesla shares are up.

    Weak sales numbers for Tesla out of China, but since when is Tesla about selling cars?
    What position you taking now on Tesla Raffe? Hard to call I think , seems to be buying a million satellites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    What position you taking now on Tesla Raffe? Hard to call I think , seems to be buying a million satellites

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    I am on the side for the moment. Actually still fundamentally very bearish, there are a few ugly stories brewing about securities fraud tied to the marketing of FSD (faked videos misrepresented as autonomous, see NY Times story) - but then there is this sticky rumour of another stock split (possibly tomorrow?), which is obviously no reason for the price to move except that it's Tesla and it will sky-rocket by double digits if this happens. On the other hand, I feel there is a lot of short-term speculative money sitting in the stock waiting for a stock-split rally to sell into, might become uncomfortable for those if the rally doesn't happen.

    I rather wait and see, would be happy to sell into a rally or if it breaks below $1,000 again. Until then, have fun watching the daily moves.
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    Good luck!

    In other news Wetherspoons in full Kendal Roy attack

    https://twitter.com/thugclive/status...Y_cR9n8Ug&s=19

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    Hindenburg just announced a new report for tomorrow. Fun and games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Hindenburg just announced a new report for tomorrow. Fun and games.
    Ooopsie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    Relax, everything's cool and under control. They've been busy this last couple of months sweet talking a bunch of (hot) air heads into handing over $414,400,000 which has been speedily converted into bitcoin at what will soon be seen as the giveaway price of just over $59K/BTC.

    https://www.microstrategy.com/conten...11-29-2021.pdf

    Pass me some more oofle dust please Mike.
    If bitcoin goes down 80%, don't sell. Just borrow against it and set the LTV to 10%.

    Well, if bitcoin drops just 50% from here, Saylor and his pile-of-crap company MicroTragedy are history.

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    Tesla down another 5%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    If bitcoin goes down 80%, don't sell. Just borrow against it and set the LTV to 10%.
    Another 1,434 purchased at $57,477.

    https://www.microstrategy.com/conten...12-09-2021.pdf

    You certainly can't accuse him of not putting his other people's money where his mouth is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    Another 1,434 purchased at $57,477.

    https://www.microstrategy.com/conten...12-09-2021.pdf

    You certainly can't accuse him of not putting his other people's money where his mouth is.
    Have to say that Saylor at least walks the talk, hasn't sold any MSTR stock since 2012.

    The same can't be said about his CFO and CTO, who are selling everything they can. Suppose they have a better understanding about the value of the company, he cannot really be involved too much given all the time he spends on shilling bitcoin.
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    Yeah they are normal, he might be a sociopath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Yeah they are normal, he might be a sociopath

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    Lolz. You might be on to something.
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    You alright, papa?

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    I had missed the earlier tweets:



    Somebody a bit depressed? The fanbois do not like it, stock dropping like a stone. Managed to sell some at $980.... No idea what's going on tbh.
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    Mega lokz what is he smoking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Mega lokz what is he smoking

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    It's not smoked, it is snorted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Managed to sell some at $980.... No idea what's going on tbh.
    Traded as high as $1,003 after hitting $973 within two minutes of me selling at $980.

    Gosh, I really have no idea what's cooking here. Bought some NQ futures against it and will let it run for a bit.
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