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    Same, I bought TIGR on a tip article at $25 thinking it would continue to soar to $50, but at this point I'll be happy to take even some profit.

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    Here’s one for the ETF tracker gang.


    https://on.mktw.net/3bQXJD0

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Here’s one for the ETF tracker gang.


    https://on.mktw.net/3bQXJD0
    Lol.

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    I had to double-check that this was real and not a p!ss take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Here’s one for the ETF tracker gang.


    https://on.mktw.net/3bQXJD0
    A perfect asset to go short when the stuff hit the fan.
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    I suspect Hargreaves Lansdown et al will not be listing it.

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    Investment used to be a serious business now it seems to be just a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Investment used to be a serious business now it seems to be just a game.
    Its all a game though isn't it, technology has moved aspects of our lives in such fast a way that many are left behind looking at what has happened including me!

    Its like crypto currency, we can all slate it saying it is baseless, the bottom will out one day and so on but while we moan and groan about it others are making good profits.

    Tesla and GameStop are often hammered but they continue to do well, since the start of this thread its regularly mentioned the big crash is coming, this or that stock is going to drop big time.... in yet all through this pandemic the markets have held up well, crypto currencies going 5x/10x/100x their value.

    Its crazy days for sure and there may well be a correction but many including me would have thought that would have happened by now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    OMG, sold the rest at $16.45 yesterday and it hit $19 earlier today.

    Well, I made $5 - but could have been $8 half a day later.
    $23
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    I got out of ARB earlier at 145 having bought in a week or so back at 135 before it plummeted along with BTC. This was after selling much higher a week or so earlier before it dropped initially to 135 where I bought in again. Finally timed something ok.
    Closed at 168 today... look at their volume for an almost comical green spike, with around 8m shares being bought, in the final minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Its all a game though isn't it, technology has moved aspects of our lives in such fast a way that many are left behind looking at what has happened including me!

    Its like crypto currency, we can all slate it saying it is baseless, the bottom will out one day and so on but while we moan and groan about it others are making good profits.

    Tesla and GameStop are often hammered but they continue to do well, since the start of this thread its regularly mentioned the big crash is coming, this or that stock is going to drop big time.... in yet all through this pandemic the markets have held up well, crypto currencies going 5x/10x/100x their value.

    Its crazy days for sure and there may well be a correction but many including me would have thought that would have happened by now..
    I'm reasonably OK with the trajectory of the markets; USA seems pretty expensive but otherwise in a zero interest rate world things are plodding forwards OK.

    The meme stocks make news but the reality is they are a tiny part of the market just a big part of the noise ... crypto ... yeah many are making money but I don't need to get involved in that casino to achieve my investment objectives.

    Fair play to those who have made a quick buck on some of the speculative stuff but that has never been part of my investment tactics ...

    I'm not expecting a big market crash / correction ... the NASDAQ could well take a dip but nothing catastrophic ... crypto to me seems like a ticking time bomb ... I hope those speculating book some profits on the way up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benwisback View Post
    Closed at 168 today... look at their volume for an almost comical green spike, with around 8m shares being bought, in the final minutes.
    Yup, think it was due to a MSCI index addition MOC order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKitega View Post
    Yup, think it was due to a MSCI index addition MOC order.

    Yup. In total, £15.1m of ARB has been bought at £1.68 after hours today.

    Looking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    AMC back above $15, this time I sold half my position at $15.60.
    Three days later at $36.

    Unbelievable. Market cap more than ten times it was before the pandemic destroyed the last bit of business that it still had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Always most bullish when the stock hits all-time high and the company directors are selling their shares to Joe Bagholder. You should ask yourself who commissioned this article.

    Three months later and 50% lower I don't hear much about Argo outside of the bubble of this thread.

    Argo will go to 50p before it returns to 300p.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Always most bullish when the stock hits all-time high and the company directors are selling their shares to Joe Bagholder. You should ask yourself who commissioned this article.

    Three months later and 50% lower I don't hear much about Argo outside of the bubble of this thread.

    Argo will go to 50p before it returns to 300p.
    I agree with you, on both counts. It will go to 50p....and then it will go to £3 and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    I predict Ryan will win this bet but be out by 2 or 3 months. It probably will hit £4 but not by end June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    I agree with you, on both counts. It will go to 50p....and then it will go to £3 and beyond.
    Hope springs eternal.

    It will go to 50p, and then to zero. It's a doughnut.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    I predict Ryan will win this bet but be out by 2 or 3 months. It probably will hit £4 but not by end June.
    There is no bet, is a unilateral claim with a self imposed penalty. And if it isn't at 400p in a month, he will lose it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    OMG, sold the rest at $16.45 yesterday and it hit $19 earlier today.

    Well, I made $5 - but could have been $8 half a day later.
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    $23
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    Three days later at $36.

    Unbelievable. Market cap more than ten times it was before the pandemic destroyed the last bit of business that it still had.

    Just hit $50, all-time high.

    While its 2025 bonds are trading at 81 cents on the Dollar. Makes total sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Just hit $50, all-time high.

    While its 2025 bonds are trading at 81 cents on the Dollar. Makes total sense.
    Five minutes later $61.72 and trading halted. Nuuuuuttttzzzzzzz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Five minutes later $61.72 and trading halted. Nuuuuuttttzzzzzzz
    Previous 5 year peak $35. What sense is there in the current value?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Previous 5 year peak $35. What sense is there in the current value?
    https://www.thebeartrapsreport.com/b...quity-telling/
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    Here is AMC market cap over time. Not only is the price per share going through the roof, but the company has also used the strength to issue a truckload of new shares. This is the company which bonds were trading below 20 cents on the Dollar six months ago (showing extremely high odds of bankruptcy).

    Even at the previous all-time high for the shares ($35 in 12/2016), its market cap was only about 15% of what it is today. Yeah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Here is AMC market cap over time. Not only is the price per share going through the roof, but the company has also used the strength to issue a truckload of new shares. This is the company which bonds were trading below 20 cents on the Dollar six months ago (showing extremely high odds of bankruptcy).

    Even at the previous all-time high for the shares ($35 in 12/2016), its market cap was only about 15% of what it is today. Yeah.


    That must be tempting for those who like to short shares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    That must be tempting for those who like to short shares.
    It's the inverse equivalent of trying to catch a falling knife.

    I leave that for others for the time being.

    May consider joining the trade if and when I have reason to believe the top is in. Right now I only see YOLO and FOMO and that is more powerful than anything else. Probably a couple of larger accounts that got killed today, this jump from $50 to $60 looked like a liquidation. This thing will go back to $10, so plenty of time to short on the way down.
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    State OF Us crypto report is out

    63% of those earning 107k or above are described as crypto curious and plan on buying in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    State OF Us crypto report is out

    63% of those earning 107k or above are described as crypto curious and plan on buying in

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    Can't stop laughing.

    They asked a group of 3,000 investors and crypto-curious investors and found out that investors are curious about crypto?

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    Lol yeah

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    AMC selling another 11 million shares, the prospectus has some nice language:



    Shares crashing from pre-offering highs of $77 to below $55 within minutes.

    Let the games begin, I think now we will finally see the extremely wild swings like we saw in GME 27-29 January (inside blue box) - but I am not sure the journey is over, we may as well see $120 today or tomorrow.


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    Who still holds TIGR and OUST?

    Both have had fantastic weeks!!

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    Yup still hodling TIGR here, gonna ride it to the moon.

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    Oust here., nice week. currently 20% up

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    small TIGR, no OUST
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    Still holding my AMC stock from $9. It will eventually go over $100 I’m sure. Potential naked shorting and related synthetics hence the current share count and delayed share holders meeting.

    Reddit supporters are all over this stock at the moment, and have been for the last 6 months.

    Bigger than GME? Let’s wait and see. This could fly!
    Last edited by Chinnock; 4th June 2021 at 20:14.

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    I’ve got a chunk of TIGR in my SIPP which is now nicely up, but the small punt I had on it when it crashed to $13 a while back is now over 100% up. #chuffed

    No idea when to sell. Stocktwits are predicting $50 by year end….:


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    Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinnock View Post
    Still holding my AMC stock from $9. It will eventually go over $100 I’m sure. Potential naked shorting and related synthetics hence the current share count and delayed share holders meeting.

    Reddit supporters are all over this stock at the moment, and have been for the last 6 months.

    Bigger than GME? Let’s wait and see. This could fly!
    I am also long AMC stock, and I don't rule out that the stock will print readings over $100 next week - basically everything is possible.

    However the stupid conspiracy theories about naked shortselling, synthetic shares etc are so dumb that I feel insulted in my intelligence when I have to read them here.

    Quite simply the share count is about four times as many as in early January because the company has dumped a truckload of shares onto their investors. I posted the development of market cap over the past years and this shows how stupid and counter to any logic this story is. That doesn't mean that the stock won't trade higher before it trades lower (the reason why I am long), but I promise you that it will trade a lot lower than today in a few months. A lot. A LOT.

    And don't think the company management is the friend of the shareholders in this farce. They are greedy bastards who will milk their shareholders for the last penny they have. And in the end, there may be a handful of WSB guys who made a profit - but all those who are buying now will lose their pants. There are only three groups who are guaranteed to make a killing from what's currently happening at AMC: management, hedge funds and market-makers. Guess who will finance their profits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I am also long AMC stock, and I don't rule out that the stock will print readings over $100 next week - basically everything is possible.

    However the stupid conspiracy theories about naked shortselling, synthetic shares etc are so dumb that I feel insulted in my intelligence when I have to read them here.

    Quite simply the share count is about four times as many as in early January because the company has dumped a truckload of shares onto their investors. I posted the development of market cap over the past years and this shows how stupid and counter to any logic this story is. That doesn't mean that the stock won't trade higher before it trades lower (the reason why I am long), but I promise you that it will trade a lot lower than today in a few months. A lot. A LOT.

    And don't think the company management is the friend of the shareholders in this farce. They are greedy bastards who will milk their shareholders for the last penny they have. And in the end, there may be a handful of WSB guys who made a profit - but all those who are buying now will lose their pants. There are only three groups who are guaranteed to make a killing from what's currently happening at AMC: management, hedge funds and market-makers. Guess who will finance their profits?
    I used the word “potential” for a reason. I don’t care about the truth, just the future share price.

    As you concurr, it should reach $100 very soon, just based on hype and FOMO alone.

    Hey, it might just fly, however short lived in reality it may be.

    Fun regardless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinnock View Post
    I used the word “potential” for a reason. I don’t care about the truth, just the future share price.

    As you concurr, it should might reach $100 very soon, just based on hype and FOMO alone.

    Hey, it might just fly, however short lived in reality it may be.

    Fun regardless!
    FTFY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    FTFY
    It has plenty of mileage yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinnock View Post
    It has plenty of mileage yet.
    ...in both directions.

    50 quid charity bet where it will be on 31 December? You quote a price and I buy or sell. If you prefer we can do other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    ...in both directions.

    50 quid charity bet where it will be on 31 December? You quote a price and I buy or sell. If you prefer we can do other way around.
    Good call!

    How about you choose over or under $50. Loser pays £50 to charity pot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinnock View Post
    Good call!

    How about you choose over or under $50. Loser pays £50 to charity pot?
    Under.

    Closing price 31 December 2021. TZ-UK charity.

    (and if it closes at exactly $50.00, we both pay).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Under.

    Closing price 31 December 2021. TZ-UK charity.

    (and if it closes at exactly $50.00, we both pay).
    Bets on!

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    Kyla is 23, and if you bear with her through the first three minutes, she has quite a good take on the AMC situation: it's not about AMC (it obviously isn't), it's about the madness of people who think they got the short end of the stick. It has a lot to do with simple truths, fake news, anger and a feeling of community fighting the suits. If you have twenty minutes to spare, listen to her.


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    It’s a “rebel stock”, plain and simple. Plenty more will come, and so will the money.

    #followthetrend

    #knowwhentosell

    #thankyoureddit
    Last edited by Chinnock; 4th June 2021 at 22:27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinnock View Post
    It’s a “rebel stock”, plain and simple. Plenty more will come, and so will the money.

    #followthetrend

    #knowwhentosell

    #thankyoureddit
    Agree, it's a rebel stock. A stock for rebels with an unclear/confused cause.

    I completely disagree that many more will come. I will go even as far as saying that AMC is the last real one, there will be other attempts at triggering something like it, and plain pumps/dumps for profit, but there will never again be a concerted global effort like this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Agree, it's a rebel stock. A stock for rebels with an unclear/confused cause.

    I completely disagree that many more will come. I will go even as far as saying that AMC is the last real one, there will be other attempts at triggering something like it, and plain pumps/dumps for profit, but there will never again be a concerted global effort like this one.
    I disagree this will be the last.

    Social media, contempt of financial institutions (bail outs, pensions etc). Poor are getting poorer!

    They’ve had a taste of blood, more will come. It will only grow in numbers. It’s a rebellion after all.

    Smart people are using the mob!

    Volatility is an investors opportunity, regardless of the truth.
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