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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBanks View Post
    Anyone hold WOS? I'm thinking of buying in, in the hope they can crack the US market with their expansion.
    You got the same email from stockopedia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    I'm really not having much luck with these single stock picks. That's what I've avoided investing in single equities for the past 20 years. Should never have deviated from my passive plan.
    I think you have said that a few times now ...



    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Still, things can turn positive as fast as they turn negative.

    Maybe, or they can tailspin further.

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    I've gone in to Supermarket REIT mainly for the yield but showing a rise in price as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    You got the same email from stockopedia.
    😂 Yes but I want to go against the grain from what, the majority think.

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    Tezzler again only profitable after regulatory credits and a $100 mio trading profit on their bitcoin position. Now losing money two years straight.

    But growth, bro.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Tezzler...
    Just sold some more, $724.50.

    Burn, baby burn.
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    What happened to the GrayScale Bitcoin Trust? Any investors who have looked into this?


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    Is it to do with their fees and people realising they can now buy BTC at a lower cost?


    Their fees are crazy high (2%) but a few months back, for the regular US investor, they were about the only way to get exposure.

    Maybe also some investors have shifted to other means of gaining exposure has caused the decline in GBTCs NAV? The likes of RIOT, MARA, ARB(KF) & MSTR all make greater gains than BTC when there are spikes in the BTC price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Is it to do with their fees and people realising they can now buy BTC at a lower cost?


    Their fees are crazy high (2%) but a few months back, for the regular US investor, they were about the only way to get exposure.

    Maybe also some investors have shifted to other means of gaining exposure has caused the decline in GBTCs NAV? The likes of RIOT, MARA, ARB(KF) & MSTR all make greater gains than BTC when there are spikes in the BTC price.
    Yes I have googled as well, but a 25% discount is quite something for a traded fund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    The likes of RIOT, MARA, ARB(KF) & MSTR all make greater gains than BTC when there are spikes in the BTC price.
    One month performance comparison:

    MSTR: +3.44%
    BTC: -0.10%
    MARA: -5.54%
    ARBKF: -15.4%
    RIOT: -17.06%

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    Buying SP and Nasdaq futures here, not 200% convinced but if they are not going down they may as well go up?


    (Wanted to quote this post for a comment about last night's strong run up but ended up editing it instead. Can't restore the original post, it contained something about my closing of cash Tesla short and buying SP and NASDAQ futures.)

    Last edited by Raffe; 29th April 2021 at 06:49.
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    Oust looks on the move

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Yes I have googled as well, but a 25% discount is quite something for a traded fund.
    I didn’t Google it. It was a guess.


    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    One month performance comparison:

    MSTR: +3.44%
    BTC: -0.10%
    MARA: -5.54%
    ARBKF: -15.4%
    RIOT: -17.06%


    Try doing it over the last 3/6/9 months. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by macdaddymac View Post
    Oust looks on the move
    Their first earnings call since being listed on the Nasdaq is due on the 6th May.

    I expect it to rise until then as I think everyone knows it’ll cement the fact they’re by far the best lidar company out there.

    I’m holding on for $20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    I didn’t Google it. It was a guess.





    Try doing it over the last 3/6/9 months. ;-)
    You should become a journalist. You guessed exactly what the guy wrote last week.

    The point is that the crazy time is over. GBTC was 40% premium a couple of weeks ago, and then people sold it down to 20% discount - meaning they lost almost 50% without BTC moving at all. During the same time, the bottom fell out of the hyped stocks like MSTR and ARB.

    You can look at the period six months ago as much as you want, it will never happen again.
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    I'm holding Bitcoin but like Raffle, really struggle to see its purpose and intrinsic value. That said, I also hold Telcoin and for me that has a real value add in providing remittance at a lower price point than alternatives. The regulatory approval established by Telcoin does not happen easily, and therefore would make it challenging for competitor crypto to operate in this space:

    https://madisongraph.com/telcoin-qui...chain-fintech/

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    Treasury rates, bro.


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    Grant Schapps on Sky

    'Tesla self drive cars won't qualify for our safety standards, we want newer technology to get driverless cars up and running ''

    Lol, probably won't register but still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Grant Schapps on Sky

    'Tesla self drive cars won't qualify for our safety standards, we want newer technology to get driverless cars up and running ''

    Lol, probably won't register but still

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    Been searching for this, cannot find it on Sky. Any idea when and where this was published exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Been searching for this, cannot find it on Sky. Any idea when and where this was published exactly?
    Just a throw away line on Sky News earlier today

    Was talking about the future of driverless cars and just threw in Tesla and others won't pass the UK govs safety criteria and they are looking for newer tech to ensure that driverless cars are safe

    I was shocked, interviewer didn't pick up on it



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    Sky news clips all about his travel stuff, he threw the Tesla line in at the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Sky news clips all about his travel stuff, he threw the Tesla line in at the end

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    There is only a 41 sec clip on their website....
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    Yeah only covers the first bit, my Sky Q won't go back far enough

    Was an interesting line, interviewer wanted to know about when driverless cars would be the norm, Schapps suggesting the tech isn't there yet was the gist of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Yeah only covers the first bit, my Sky Q won't go back far enough

    Was an interesting line, interviewer wanted to know about when driverless cars would be the norm, Schapps suggesting the tech isn't there yet was the gist of it

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    That's going to make big waves. Just a question of time until somebody with access digs it out.
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    Can't remember the exact line, was something like ' Tesla and others won't pass our safety standards and we are waiting for new tech to make these cars as safe as possible '

    Something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    That's going to make big waves. Just a question of time until somebody with access digs it out.
    The question must be linked to this

    Maybe his answer was innocuous enough not to create waves dunno

    https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...-end-2021.html

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    Madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    Madness.
    As in "One step beyond?"
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Brave new world.



    They haven't even edited the Tezzler logo in the pic. Hilarious.
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    Did anyone catch this in the FT?

    https://on.ft.com/3gLye9m

    In the investor deck:

    https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/R...021-Update.pdf

    Slide 5 is the only place where the gain made on the sale of bitcoin was mentioned, and it was intentionally put in as an image rather than text so it couldn't be searched. Surely they didn't think that doing this would mean that nobody would notice. Bizarre behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerpaul View Post
    Did anyone catch this in the FT?

    https://on.ft.com/3gLye9m

    In the investor deck:

    https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/R...021-Update.pdf

    Slide 5 is the only place where the gain made on the sale of bitcoin was mentioned, and it was intentionally put in as an image rather than text so it couldn't be searched. Surely they didn't think that doing this would mean that nobody would notice. Bizarre behaviour.
    This was all over Twitter yesterday.
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    Just seen news (BBC lunch) saying that the UK "driverless cars" announcement is only for up to 37 mph in traffic jams on motorways and main roads (not in town)

    Some way off "driverless cars" and actually already here. My BMW X1 is 5 years old and will drive itself in motorway or main road traffic up to 37mph while I read the paper (I don't read the paper!). I just have to keep one finger touching the steering wheel. It's very strange to use, especially when there are big steering inputs, but it is a very good system.

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    I didn't know the X1 was that advanced. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    This was all over Twitter yesterday.
    I'm not surprised. How this charade is still going I don't know.

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    More Tezzler madness from their 10Q:

    https://twitter.com/orthereaboot/sta...99807430496260
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    I decided to conclude my investment test in U.S. airline stocks I started 13 months ago (or so). The airlines had been hammered by about 60% when I decided to buy. All four of my stocks have rebounded dramatically over the last several months, but it looks like they've plateaued for now. I placed my sell orders on all of them, netting me a 117.5% gain. I wish all my hunches could be as lucrative!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacifichrono View Post
    I decided to conclude my investment test in U.S. airline stocks I started 13 months ago (or so). The airlines had been hammered by about 60% when I decided to buy. All four of my stocks have rebounded dramatically over the last several months, but it looks like they've plateaued for now. I placed my sell orders on all of them, netting me a 117.5% gain. I wish all my hunches could be as lucrative!
    You stuck with your idea against all of us pointing out how crazy it was - congratulations and well deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    You stuck with your idea against all of us pointing out how crazy it was - congratulations and well deserved.
    Thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pacifichrono View Post
    I decided to conclude my investment test in U.S. airline stocks I started 13 months ago (or so). The airlines had been hammered by about 60% when I decided to buy. All four of my stocks have rebounded dramatically over the last several months, but it looks like they've plateaued for now. I placed my sell orders on all of them, netting me a 117.5% gain. I wish all my hunches could be as lucrative!
    Well done. A great example of being greedy when everyone else is fearful.

    Are you planning on spending a little of the gains on anything nice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    Well done. A great example of being greedy when everyone else is fearful.

    Are you planning on spending a little of the gains on anything nice?
    I already placed buy orders on a number of stocks I currently own.

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    Nice run up after Biden's SOTU, looking to take profit at SP4,250.
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    Nice one PC.

    The airlines and holiday companies did look mega cheap last summer, so well done for being brave enough to go for it. Just rewards

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    The rights issues that were offered in the U.K. and European airlines were pretty much at the bottom of the cycle, anyone that subscribed did pretty well, IAG was c90p and TUI was even more deeply discounted

    WOS has been stellar as well, the pandemic impacts have not really touched the luxury end of retail

    That said, a lot of the performance is starting to look frothy, I took some gains out over the last couple of weeks in the recovery stocks as they were starting to look expensive...


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    Quote Originally Posted by pacifichrono View Post
    I decided to conclude my investment test in U.S. airline stocks I started 13 months ago (or so). The airlines had been hammered by about 60% when I decided to buy. All four of my stocks have rebounded dramatically over the last several months, but it looks like they've plateaued for now. I placed my sell orders on all of them, netting me a 117.5% gain. I wish all my hunches could be as lucrative!
    Very well done sir. I remember when you bought it and the reaction people gave you on here.

    May the new investments be even more lucrative for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacifichrono View Post
    I decided to conclude my investment test in U.S. airline stocks I started 13 months ago (or so). The airlines had been hammered by about 60% when I decided to buy. All four of my stocks have rebounded dramatically over the last several months, but it looks like they've plateaued for now. I placed my sell orders on all of them, netting me a 117.5% gain. I wish all my hunches could be as lucrative!
    Nice one.

    What has surprised me is that I can’t think of a single company that has failed due to COVID.

    When it all kicked off I thought a number of companies, including some big ones, would run out of cash to keep going and go bust.

    It’s mind boggling that everyone has kept afloat.

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    Yup well done PC, iirc I was sceptical at the time, it turned out well for you...'HE WHO DARES RODDERS, HE WHO DARES'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Nice one.

    What has surprised me is that I can’t think of a single company that has failed due to COVID.

    When it all kicked off I thought a number of companies, including some big ones, would run out of cash to keep going and go bust.

    It’s mind boggling that everyone has kept afloat.
    I expect the bill for keeping some companies and many individuals afloat is on its way. In our almost post war euphoria as the world (more correctly some parts of it) emerges from the pandemic, the amount of money pumped into the economies and subsequent debt our governments now hold has been unprecedented, and it seems to have found its way into financial markets and revenues of large multinationals ..... but they won’t be paying it back, it will be the tax payers hangover to nurse when the parties over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I AM LATE! View Post
    I expect the bill for keeping some companies and many individuals afloat is on its way. In our almost post war euphoria as the world (more correctly some parts of it) emerges from the pandemic, the amount of money pumped into the economies and subsequent debt our governments now hold has been unprecedented, and it seems to have found its way into financial markets and revenues of large multinationals ..... but they won’t be paying it back, it will be the tax payers hangover to nurse when the parties over.
    Absolutely, they appear oblivious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Nice one.

    What has surprised me is that I can’t think of a single company that has failed due to COVID.

    When it all kicked off I thought a number of companies, including some big ones, would run out of cash to keep going and go bust.

    It’s mind boggling that everyone has kept afloat.
    Intu has collapsed.. but not that big I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Nice run up after Biden's SOTU, looking to take profit at SP4,250.
    Bit of an unexpected puke here after the open (interest rates moving higher after strong jobs number), just bought some more SP 500.
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