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    NOVACYT dropping like a stone, £12.60 to just over £9.00 in 24hrs, crazy share to be involved in if you have any..

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    AZN was up 1.7% today due to vaccine positivity.

    I did sell all my SMT though today. Let's see if I got that right.
    what was the reasoning behind selling SMT? tesla exposure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    NOVACYT dropping like a stone, £12.60 to just over £9.00 in 24hrs, crazy share to be involved in if you have any..
    That's the AIM market for you.. I'm holding mine a bit longer but did manage to trade around it these last couple days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinsongreen68 View Post
    what was the reasoning behind selling SMT? tesla exposure?
    Brown stuff hitting the fan as the reality of a paralysing new COvid wave hits

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    ah, right. makes sense of course, but the market just seems to cruise on through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinsongreen68 View Post
    ah, right. makes sense of course, but the market just seems to cruise on through...

    Yep true and stimulus will come probably after Biden wins. SMT is half a percent up as I type lol :)

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    When stocks rebound, WHERE best to invest?

    Quote Originally Posted by robinsongreen68 View Post
    what was the reasoning behind selling SMT? tesla exposure?
    Must admit that the high Tesla exposure has been putting me off purchasing SMT. However, it’ has been doing so since the price was about £7......!


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    Rough ride this week, looks like brutal claret again today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Rough ride this week, looks like brutal claret again today

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    I am afraid we are only just starting.

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    I see red. Seas of red.

    It is starting.

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    Wait until the UK goes into full national lockdown...

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    ....and Trump will claim it's Biden's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    We haven't seen a 5% day in the S&P500 since June. Just saying.

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    Turkish Lira and other EM currencies getting absolutely hammered over the past days - strong sign of collapse in risk appetite.



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    Is Rolls Royce the new Tesla? The only way seems to be up for this stock (~30% up today).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~dadam02~ View Post
    Is Rolls Royce the new Tesla? The only way seems to be up for this stock (~30% up today).
    Its all to do with the rights issue, yesterday they were £2.19 on close, the rights issue has cut them into thirds over night and they opened at 60p'ish, I suppose all the excitement is around what appears to be a cheap stock.

    I have taken up my allocation of 10,000 shares at 32p but that deal will not go through until the 6th November and the share price will be different then I imagine..

    Its a shame its delayed to the 6th, currently I could get out with a few hundred in profit which is a lot better than the -£11k I was a few weeks back..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    We haven't seen a 5% day in the S&P500 since June. Just saying.
    Still up 50% from the March 22 bottom, got a long way to go before it gets down to 2200.

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    FTSE only 12% off sub-5,000 any pull back in the US could drag it there quickly


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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Still up 50% from the March 22 bottom, got a long way to go before it gets down to 2200.
    I am not saying we will go to 2,200 - just that we haven't seen any real volatility for a long time and currently we are seeing a perfect storm building up. Not ruling out that the market will resume it's usual 'buy the dip' approach tomorrow, seen it all this year.

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    Vaccines are sh1t, Biden is sh1t, Brexit is sh1t, lockdowns are sh1t, the EU has gone to sh1t, Boris does Jack sh1t , its all going to sh1t

    Feel better now, but i think the markets feel the same tbh

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    Back to where we where 30th March, buy the dip!

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    Certainly tempting, I keep having to remind myself that we are no where near out of the woods so today's dip may pale into insignificance against tomorrow's cliff fall.

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    A national lockdown must be looming, probably will be a series of lockdowns that equate to almost a national lockdown.

    The real driver is The US and how it pans out there with the election. Biden will likely win and start the money printing again.

    A narrow win for a Biden with Trump refusing to leave whilst Covid runs riot could pour cold water on the S&P dramatic recovery.

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    Gold down 10% and Silver down 20% from their August highs. Just saying.

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    Anyway none of us are real. We exist in a construct. Elon is going to rescue us with neural link. Then when we are free from our mental shackles we will be able to rebel against AI which has been using us as resources since 1st Jan 2000. #therealmillenniumbug #inmuskwetrust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Gold down 10% and Silver down 20% from their August highs. Just saying.
    Yup. Didn't liquidate that. Is hurting at present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Nope, that was the second. Germany was first:

    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-ge...own/a-55421241

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    I’ve had another couple of grand on Micro Focus today.

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    For those on this thread who have done a lot of dealing, and fill in a Self Assessment tax return, the following may be of interest - from the Monevator website:



    You do not have to pay tax if your total taxable gains are under your Capital Gains Tax allowance.

    You still need to report your gains in your tax return if both of the following apply:

    - the total amount you sold the assets for was more than 4 times your allowance
    - you’re registered for Self Assessment

    The trap, you see, is a reporting issue, rather than an issue of taxes you’re mistakenly evading.


    At the time of writing the CGT allowance is £12,300.

    This means that if you sell ‘chargeable’ assets that in total are worth more than four times the allowance – £49,200 – in a year, then you should report all your taxable gains that year to HMRC.


    Applies to dealings outside an ISA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    I’ve had another couple of grand on Micro Focus today.
    How come?

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    Red .
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Red .
    More red than red wedding

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    Choppy week for sure, good news for my 3SRR position which is fighting back (my average is ~70GBp so along way to go to get anywhere near break even though). Surprised to see FTSE down less than 0.5% where Dow Futures showing over 1.5% down, guess we'll see a pretty grim end to the days trading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    .... Its a shame its delayed to the 6th, currently I could get out with a few hundred in profit which is a lot better than the -£11k I was a few weeks back..
    Geez, you must have taken a sizeable punt on RR. My much smaller position is still red and probably will be for a while (I know, the smart ml investor takes the loss before it gets bigger but where's the fun in that :)).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~dadam02~ View Post
    Choppy week for sure, good news for my 3SRR position which is fighting back (my average is ~70GBp so along way to go to get anywhere near break even though). Surprised to see FTSE down less than 0.5% where Dow Futures showing over 1.5% down, guess we'll see a pretty grim end to the days trading.
    The number one rule of investing into leveraged long or short vehicles: never hold for more than two ot three days.

    Why? Check this.

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    Don't worry I've learnt that the hard way with 3STS and also 3SRR, but needs must

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    FTSE now in pos and Dow Futures +300 last hour or so they can't make their minds up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    FTSE now in pos and Dow Futures +300 last hour or so they can't make their minds up

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    Red enuff now (in the US)?

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    Claret every where

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    Who’s doing a few buy orders ready for Monday mornings plummet?

    Imagine it’s very likely to be all the same companies that take another dive having recovered.

    Unless it was all priced in last week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Who’s doing a few buy orders ready for Monday mornings plummet?

    Imagine it’s very likely to be all the same companies that take another dive having recovered.

    Unless it was all priced in last week?
    FTSE projected down 2% at the moment.
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    Tempted to buy some more amazon after the last week drop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    FTSE projected down 2% at the moment.
    Where you seeing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Where you seeing this?

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    https://www.ig.com/en/weekend-trading
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    Is the IG app a decent platform to trade on?

    Seems a super simple way to trade BTC etc, should you wish to.

    I’ve always though buying BTC was a pain in the ass and potentially risky, as platforms have often been hacked in the past, but IG seems very straight forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Is the IG app a decent platform to trade on?

    Seems a super simple way to trade BTC etc, should you wish to.

    I’ve always though buying BTC was a pain in the ass and potentially risky, as platforms have often been hacked in the past, but IG seems very straight forward.
    Well as far as I understand you wouldn't own any BTC, just an OTC instruments which will mirror the performance of BTC.

    Not that I would want to own BTC, but for those propagating it, it is about owning the actual thing rather than a derivative of it. You know because the financial system is about to unravel and the entity which owes you the performance of BTC won't be able to honour your claim. Same like people saying you need to own physical gold rather than an ETC.

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    Thought we'd have seen a bigger FTSE fall than 2%. Let's see what Monday brings, but it surely can't be pretty.

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