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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Could look back in 3 years and think what an amazing time to have bought into IAG.......or they could go pop.
    I know on which of the two I would bet my money if I had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    I heard a rumour from a neighbour who has a relative in parliament, that Boris is not well and not recovered from his CV bout.
    Apparently he is going to resign in January after we’ve Brexited.

    Not sure how true or what impact that would have?

    Rishi for PM?
    A little like the SNP who will likely disband once they've screwed Scotland with independence...

    I want them held to account.

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    Bankers being naughty? No way. In other surprising news I read an article about a bear that defecated in the woods

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54225572

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Bankers being naughty? No way. In other surprising news I read an article about a bear that defecated in the woods

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54225572
    --> https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...es-Dirty-Money

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    NKLA. Just saying.

    TSLA is next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    NKLA. Just saying.

    TSLA is next.
    Ouch. Going to be interesting later when the markets open... you still short on NKLA Raffe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peck View Post
    Ouch. Going to be interesting later when the markets open... you still short on NKLA Raffe?
    Yes.

    Down 28% in German OTC trading right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    NKLA. Just saying.

    TSLA is next.
    Tesla Bear-trap day tomorrow?

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    NKLA founder and chairman just quit. Ouch

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    Carnage out there today, wowzers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    NKLA founder and chairman just quit. Ouch
    LOL wonder what for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelh34 View Post
    LOL wonder what for?
    Only 28% down in pre market trading lol

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    Just bought back a third at $21.75.

    Tried to put in a sell order to short again a few dollars higher but no shares available for borrowing....

    Same what happened to me with Wirecard.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Premium Bond odds have been reduced from 1 in 24,500 to 1 in 34,500

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54232018

    They're also reducing the number of £100,000 prizes from 7 to 4 and £50,000 prizes from 14 to 9.

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    Gold and Silver also getting a beating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    Gold and Silver also getting a beating

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    That doesn't make so much sense. Surely inflation-geddon is coming? Probably stagflation-geddon at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    That doesn't make so much sense. Surely inflation-geddon is coming? Probably stagflation-geddon at that.
    Inflation talk was b/s then and it is b/s now. Deflation, if anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Inflation talk was b/s then and it is b/s now. Deflation, if anything.
    Uh oh. If so, not a great idea for world governments to take on a load of debt. I'd assumed there would be a huge engineering of inflation by governments but of course you need demand and rising earnings to do that OR you need your own currency to be worth sod all vs others and then import stuff. (Looking at China closely)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Uh oh. If so, not a great idea for world governments to take on a load of debt. I'd assumed there would be a huge engineering of inflation by governments but of course you need demand and rising earnings to do that OR you need your own currency to be worth sod all vs others and then import stuff. (Looking at China closely)
    ???

    1. The Chinese currency is substantially stronger than its long-term average.
    2. China had a trade surplus of 400 bln USD in 2019 (once again the biggest in the world)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Inflation talk was b/s then and it is b/s now. Deflation, if anything.
    For the next few months, definitely.

    But, when demand returns after a vaccine, and supply has been damaged by businesses who have scaled back or gone bust during Covid, inflation may well come back.

    For example, I think cheap travel has been lost for a very long time. Also, investment has just stopped in industries like oil and gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    ???

    1. The Chinese currency is substantially stronger than its long-term average.
    2. China had a trade surplus of 400 bln USD in 2019 (once again the biggest in the world)

    That's what I meant. So if we have to import from China surely that leads to inflation due to their healthier currency and financial situation

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    Tesla melting after hours after Elon tweeted that nothing much solid is to be expected from battery day. Think he is scared of being nailed for security fraud after what happened to Nikola's Trevor Milton.

    The beginning of the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Tesla melting after hours after Elon tweeted that nothing much solid is to be expected from battery day. Think he is scared of being nailed for security fraud after what happened to Nikola's Trevor Milton.

    The beginning of the end.
    I saw that tweet...but Raffe we all know what happens with Tesla, it just goes up...maybe a dip here and there and then back up it goes...those who want to will see the positive and buy...irrational I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Tesla melting after hours after Elon tweeted that nothing much solid is to be expected from battery day. Think he is scared of being nailed for security fraud after what happened to Nikola's Trevor Milton.

    The beginning of the end.
    God dammit I was waiting until tomorrow to add to my short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    I saw that tweet...but Raffe we all know what happens with Tesla, it just goes up...maybe a dip here and there and then back up it goes...those who want to will see the positive and buy...irrational I agree.
    Sure. That rule is in effect until it isn't anymore and all the bagholders find themselves long and wrong. Lot's of people will have to exit through a very small door. Form an orderly queue.

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    More fun and games coming up tomorrow:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    More fun and games coming up tomorrow:

    It feels like you could be right...let's hold on for the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    It feels like you could be right...let's hold on for the ride.
    Don't think MW will attack TSLA. There is nothing new to be unveiled about them, everything in public domain already.

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    Good morning, it's Battery Day.

    Recommended dress code: shorts.
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    A lot of social security “investors” are going to be in tears this afternoon.



    ETA - though, of course, cause it’s TSLA and it’s crazy market time, I bet we’re all wrong and it’ll go up.

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    What time does battery day proceedings kick off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~dadam02~ View Post
    What time does battery day proceedings kick off?
    It starts 2:30PM Pacific = 10:30 London

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    It starts 2:30PM Pacific = 10:30 London
    Thanks.

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    All these small movements in Tesla are just noise. It needs to tank 70% or more to return to reality.

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    90 %.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    90 %.

    But rockets.

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    Battery day. Here are the best questions for Musk, filed through the online platform:















    Which one is your favourite? I am drawn back and forth between Gregory and Melissa....

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    'and beyond' wins Melissa the Sychophant's Choice award IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bondurant View Post
    'and beyond' wins Melissa the Sychophant's Choice award IMO
    But the self-charging battery using C-14 nuclear waste (!) in a diamond case must be a very very close second then?


    Edit: https://ndb.technology/technology/
    Last edited by Raffe; 22nd September 2020 at 21:46.

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    I'm sure I recognise the distinctive style of a couple of those from recent amazon reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    But the self-charging battery using C-14 nuclear waste (!) in a diamond case must be a very very close second then?
    But can you call it self charging if it only needs charged once every 28000 years? I’m not convinced.

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    Here you can watch and listen to the clown show. It's still the AGM at the moment, Battery Day should begin in about half an hour.



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    I don't know if anyone is watching, Elon is clearly besides himself. He took a break after the first 15 minutes and keeps rubbing his nose while stuttering through the text. My detective senses are screaming that he is loaded with coke, and I don't mean the stuff which comes in red cans.

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    Just turned in for a split second. Hilarious

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    This is why the situation is ridiculous. On Reddit, the group for investors in Tesla stock is much bigger than the group for Tesla owners. Surely they must see the irony that for their investments to be worth anything there needs to be an absolute ton of owners

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    The pre market isn't liking this. '50% more efficient battery' says the guy who previously told us that by the end of this year all Teslas would be fully automated like driverless taxis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    The pre market isn't liking this. '50% more efficient battery' says the guy who previously told us that by the end of this year all Teslas would be fully automated like driverless taxis.
    Up a bit, down a bit and back where we started.


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    There is no way this guy isn't on drugs.

    I would not want to be a shareholder in that company right now. The guy presenting alongside is having to recap every ramble and interrupt Elon to keep the session on track. He's also in charge of the slide deck.

    Elon really reminds me of this kid.
    https://youtu.be/ZoexRVMxcbA

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    Good night, cannot stand more of his b/s.

    Short TSLA stock, long TSLA Puts and short Nasdaq futures. Let's see what tomorrow brings.

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