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    Quote Originally Posted by manganr View Post
    Always baffles me where the market is for a niche item like a Patek. Robbers want to turn it into cash I imagine and a ref number will make it worthless surely to a honest buyer with sensible diligence ?

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    I hope your friend is okay btw.
    I think its safe to agree now that Patek Philippe, particularluy the Nautilus is no longer a "niche" item...with instagram, any idiot can now figure out which watches are a quick flip. Really hope the thieves are castrated. London is just getting too dangerous.

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    [QUOTE=SteveM112;5340153]Agree We are far too soft on crime those who flout our laws have little fear of ever being caught I believe I read 95% of all reported crime remains unsolved..all areas of crime especially violent crime statistics continue to show huge increases but I guess Liberal thinking may have a lot to do with that but that’s a whole different arena of argument..people need to continue to enjoy whatever so called luxury items they have but need to be more aware than ever there is an ever increasing number of those who wish to deprive you of said items..stay well


    I don't think "Liberal thinking" reduced police numbers catastrophically or reduced the criminal justice system to a dysfunctional, chaotic mess.

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    Well hopefully now we are out of Europe our legal system will get back to what it was. Britain used to have the hardest punishments in the world now we are the most relaxed. Mr Boris if your reading this. Please take need. !!!!

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    I believe we have more people in prison per capita than anyone else in Europe.

    Plus a shocking reoffending rate.

    Assuming tougher = longer sentences, that would mean a tax hike.

    Problem needs to be tackled at source to reduce offending in the first place.

    And that's a big debate :)

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    A few metres of rope and a bit of 4 by 2 would make a few gallows that’s a tax decrease and smaller prisons.

    Think people would think twice before committing crimes.

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    Also deporting your criminals to colonies would be great.

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    What the hell has happened in this thread?

    If you want to talk politics or lynchings, please take it to the Bear Pit. Newbies, you don't have access to that part of the site, so please go away and take your opinions with you to Stormfront or the Daily Mail comments section.

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    Cool....just like the Taliban.

    Not for me thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol View Post
    What the hell has happened in this thread?

    If you want to talk politics or lynchings, please take it to the Bear Pit. Newbies, you don't have access to that part of the site, so please go away and take your opinions with you to Stormfront or the Daily Mail comments section.
    Noted. Apols

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol View Post
    What the hell has happened in this thread?

    If you want to talk politics or lynchings, please take it to the Bear Pit. Newbies, you don't have access to that part of the site, so please go away and take your opinions with you to Stormfront or the Daily Mail comments section.
    Amen

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    If I have offended anyone sorry I forgot to add 1 year for appeal encase it wasn’t you who stole the patek philippe nautilus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid1ni View Post
    A few metres of rope and a bit of 4 by 2 would make a few gallows that’s a tax decrease and smaller prisons.

    Think people would think twice before committing crimes.
    Really mate!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid1ni View Post
    A few metres of rope and a bit of 4 by 2 would make a few gallows that’s a tax decrease and smaller prisons.

    Think people would think twice before committing crimes.
    Is this what you joined here for?

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    Wikipedia page 'Islam in the UK' has the same 'dangerous' areas shaded in green (with the obvious exception of Wales)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla...United_Kingdom.

    Coincidence or correllation, you decide most probably based upon your personal politics and bias.
    Last edited by AKM; 3rd October 2020 at 12:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol View Post
    What the hell has happened in this thread?

    If you want to talk politics or lynchings, please take it to the Bear Pit. Newbies, you don't have access to that part of the site, so please go away and take your opinions with you to Stormfront or the Daily Mail comments section.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM112 View Post
    There was also a vicious attack on the owner of Watches of Distinction Lymington and his wife at weekend ..


    https://youtu.be/8uG7dFnzenM


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    This is DISGUSTING! I am shocked to the core. These people (actually - scum rats as I don’t perceive them as - people) need a good old fashion torturing.

    What sort of world are we living in. Very sad.

    The one thing that cheered me up after reading about this is the watches!

    Would love to have seen those thieves greedy little faces in the getaway car looking at the watches thinking they may have just got a £100K haul but turns out to be a £100 haul.

    These rats need to be put down. Prison is too good for them.

    Stay safe everyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol View Post
    What the hell has happened in this thread?

    If you want to talk politics or lynchings, please take it to the Bear Pit. Newbies, you don't have access to that part of the site, so please go away and take your opinions with you to Stormfront or the Daily Mail comments section.
    Stonewood - you've been a member for a month, and you've misjudged the tone of this part of the forum very badly. Take your murderous revenge fantasies and torture porn away. Or take yourself away - one of the great things about Britain is that we don't have state sanctioned capital punishment or torture here. You seem to admire the very worst stereotypes of Sharia law and retributive justice - I suggest you move to a country where those are practiced.

    AKM - you're almost worse, with your "Just asking questions!" shit. Where did you get "dangerous areas" from, except your imagination?

    Here's a map of the population density in the UK - see any similarities with the map you posted?



    This is the only watch forum that I use, and I've been here for few years. I don't presume to speak for everyone, but I think I'm on safe ground when I say, keep your racist, inflammatory nonsense out of WT. Go find an echo chamber to shout into.

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    #66 +1
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol View Post
    Did I stutter?




    Stonewood - you've been a member for a month, and you've misjudged the tone of this part of the forum very badly. Take your murderous revenge fantasies and torture porn away. Or take yourself away - one of the great things about Britain is that we don't have state sanctioned capital punishment or torture here. You seem to admire the very worst stereotypes of Sharia law and retributive justice - I suggest you move to a country where those are practiced.

    AKM - you're almost worse, with your "Just asking questions!" shit. Where did you get "dangerous areas" from, except your imagination?

    Here's a map of the population density in the UK - see any similarities with the map you posted?



    This is the only watch forum that I use, and I've been here for few years. I don't presume to speak for everyone, but I think I'm on safe ground when I say, keep your racist, inflammatory nonsense out of WT. Go find an echo chamber to shout into.
    Completely agree. I like to think that some of the views expressed in this thread would give offence to reasonable people anywhere, in any context, but I accept that is wishful thinking on my part.

    What is not in the least bit subjective however is that they violate the rules and the standards of this forum, which make it clear what subjects are up for discussion, and where.

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    So, trying to bring this back to the subject again and to wrap-up the story (truth be told I forgot the thread in the maelstrom that has become 2020)...

    Between Selfridges security and the Police, three individuals were identified and homes were raided. Whilst the watch was not recovered, two of the three ended up in court (on other charges) and all three are well-and-truly marked men now.

    My friend got a replacement and I’m sure will think carefully about that area (and similar) when going into town. Whilst the ending is somewhat “happy”, I feel sad that he has to be wary, but somewhat resigned to it being a sign of the times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKM View Post
    Wikipedia page 'Islam in the UK' has the same 'dangerous' areas shaded in green (with the obvious exception of Wales)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla...United_Kingdom.

    Coincidence or correllation, you decide most probably based upon your personal politics and bias.
    Classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKM View Post
    Wikipedia page 'Islam in the UK' has the same 'dangerous' areas shaded in green (with the obvious exception of Wales)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla...United_Kingdom.

    Coincidence or correllation, you decide most probably based upon your personal politics and bias.
    You picked up a 6/7 month old thread to peddle a little hatred in a questioning manner.

    Another keyboard warrior blocked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by S Works View Post
    So, trying to bring this back to the subject again and to wrap-up the story (truth be told I forgot the thread in the maelstrom that has become 2020)...

    Between Selfridges security and the Police, three individuals were identified and homes were raided. Whilst the watch was not recovered, two of the three ended up in court (on other charges) and all three are well-and-truly marked men now.

    My friend got a replacement and I’m sure will think carefully about that area (and similar) when going into town. Whilst the ending is somewhat “happy”, I feel sad that he has to be wary, but somewhat resigned to it being a sign of the times.
    Glad he managed to replace his watch . Was this through insurance ? We all pay for this in the end . It’s unfortunately not someone else’s problem . It needs to be fixed . Too many thieves in this country
    now in the main cities all causing grief and nothing much is being done . Many many are coming from Eastern Europe and most of the stuff they thieve goes back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qatar-wol View Post
    Did I stutter?


    AKM - you're almost worse, with your "Just asking questions!" shit. Where did you get "dangerous areas" from, except your imagination?
    The 'dangerous areas' is from the map of 'most dangerous places to live' from earlier on in this thread. I don't know the origin of it, but it certainly wasn't my imagination. It looks to have been from a newspaper.


    If people want to talk about the ethnicity or their perceived ethnicity of the attackers or criminals in general, it's going to get messy.

    There was an undercurent from the very beginning. I can see why if someone lives in one of those dangerous places, they have a different perspective on who they think commits what crime, typically reinforced by the local press reporting on who's been convicted that week. I don't have any reason to think that muslims in the UK are over represented with respect to watch crime.

    There's a distinct issue in trying to keep young men away from crime, particularly if they perceive that there's no other way to clime the dominence hierarchy and have material wealth that they feel they should have.

    Perhaps the whole thread should have been in the BearPit from the outset since it's principally about crime rather than about watch discussion.

    No one complains if anything derogatory is said about Somalians on the forum, they're considered fair game. Often racism (however you define it) is considered acceptable without challenge depending on people's world view.

    Another map that lossly correlates is childhood obesity though that might have cultural underpinnings as well. Maps showing deprevivation don't match up as there's large areas that don't have a corresponding increase in crime.

    It's complex, one person's perpetrators are another's victims of circumstance. Some other contributors with their Shari law ideas and radical punishment will probably lie low. I'm not advocating corporal punishment or the death penalty.

    This forum has been a play ground for bullies and narcissists for at least a decade, much of how members treat one another, wouldn't be allowed elsewhere. I think the ship sailed long ago if you want to impose rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Works View Post
    My friend got a replacement ...
    I'm surprised the insurers managed to source him a replacement already (I'm assuming they would buy new from an AD and not pay grey dealer prices). Glad he got it sorted. Make sure he has a G-shock for future London visits.

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    OK, AKM, I'll bite.

    Your points in quotes, my response after each. (And I am very much aware that I have given this response more thought that you would ever consider. Would ever be capable of? Who knows? (I'm just asking the questions...)

    Firstly, as waser said, you bumped a thread from nearly 7 months ago to drop in some racist, Islamophobic nonsense, "just asking questions' about dangerous area of the UK and the Islamic population. You've since edited your post, this morning, with a small cap of another map, and a Mike Wood thread. from here? Who knows. You've left no context there.

    What was the purpose of your bumping the thread with the Islamic population map?

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    The 'dangerous areas' is from the map of 'most dangerous places to live' from earlier on in this thread. I don't know the origin of it, but it certainly wasn't my imagination. It looks to have been from a newspaper.
    Well, thanks for spreading that with no care. Good work.

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    If people want to talk about the ethnicity or their perceived ethnicity of the attackers or criminals in general, it's going to get messy.
    You bumped a 7 month old thread. You brought it up. This is you.

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    I don't have any reason to think that muslims in the UK are over represented with respect to watch crime.
    Then what was the purpose of your bump to this thread? I mean, I think I know the answer - can you give a reasonable explanation of your inflammatory posting?

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    There's a distinct issue in trying to keep young men away from crime, particularly if they perceive that there's no other way to clime the dominence hierarchy and have material wealth that they feel they should have.
    Of course. But that's not about nationality, race or religion, I suggest. Bit late on the backpeddle here.

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    Perhaps the whole thread should have been in the BearPit from the outset since it's principally about crime rather than about watch discussion.
    But you bumped it and threw fuel on the fire. Why?

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    No one complains if anything derogatory is said about Somalians on the forum, they're considered fair game. Often racism (however you define it) is considered acceptable without challenge depending on people's world view.
    This bit absolutely boggled me. I'm on here most days, reading, rather than posting, and I certainly don't hang around The Bear Pit. Can you point to any examples of this? Any at all? If you can't, then I'll just chalk this one up to... what? Friday evening posting, three cans in? Slip of a racist tongue? I'm genuinely interestied in seeing your examples of anti-Somali racism in WT. Can't wait.

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    Another map that lossly correlates is childhood obesity though that might have cultural underpinnings as well. Maps showing deprevivation don't match up as there's large areas that don't have a corresponding increase in crime.
    What's that I can smell? Is it red herring? WTF has that to go with anything?

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    This forum has been a play ground for bullies and narcissists for at least a decade, much of how members treat one another, wouldn't be allowed elsewhere. I think the ship sailed long
    Then, at the risk of eating a ban here, fuck yerself off. This is the best forum on watches on the internet, and I've met people here, traded with people here, that I would trust implicitly. If you try hard, you can still get on that ship, and not come back.

    (And the rest of you - sorry. I know I'm wasting my time. You can't reason someone out of a prejudice that they've not thought themselves into.)

    Sorry for the swearing.

    And also, of course - well done to your friend, S Works, for the replacement!

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    What a horrible thread this has become.
    One or two of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchlovr View Post
    What a horrible thread this has become.
    One or two of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
    Hear, hear.

    Anyone who has been here for any amount of time knows that the rule of "No politics or religion" from the George & Dragon applies to, and perhaps to an even greater extent, Watch Talk.

    The good things to come from the thread however are, that S Works' friend was in part recompensed for his distressing experience and loss, and that several disgusting members have outed themselves.

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