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    Last edited by ditchvisitor; 14th February 2020 at 10:55.

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    Linky no worky

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcleminson View Post
    Linky no worky
    Linky now worky

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    Is this not the same chap who has had a few dodgy pieces and been called out on here a Tudor Monte Carlo springs to mind??

    I'm pretty sure he was based in Bungay as is this seller

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    This is Bob’s number, 07799778746 I will be sending him a quick text message to say that many people are aware of his dodgy dealings and I have reported the item to eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyR View Post
    Is this not the same chap who has had a few dodgy pieces and been called out on here a Tudor Monte Carlo springs to mind??

    I'm pretty sure he was based in Bungay as is this seller
    If this is the same guy, can criminal action not be taken against him for repeated deceptions used to try and obtain money from unsuspecting buyers (some people on here should pay attention). I’m sure there must be some laws to protect against those who plan and then try to carry out these frauds.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    Linky now worky
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    Sounds like Del Boy without the charm, unfortunately the internet has made it so much easier for scumbags like this to con people

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    I'm sure Haywood will be along shortly to pass judgement. To me the hands look like they have been tampered with and not sure about the 5517 engraved into the lug, but of course that could be a marker for those who know their Milsubs.

    I think any Milsub offered for sale is always treated with suspicion.

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    The pictures are awful
    But the minute hand looks to be the wrong shape
    The dial is not right nor is the bezel insert
    The engraving on the case back does not look correct either,

    I have now reported it.
    Last edited by Sinnlover; 14th February 2020 at 11:32.

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    "Firstly I have taken this Rolex to a main dealer and has checked it out all ok"

    Of course you have Bob - would have thought he'd learnt his lesson after the last time he was called out on TZ.
    Didn't he even make a guest appearance on the forum to defend his name!

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    Just sent this to him on eBay:

    Bob, you antics of selling dodgy watches and trying to rip people off are well known across many watch forums, if you honestly thought this was a real Milsub you wouldn’t be selling it on eBay and certainly not for £25K, the hands are wrong, bezel is wrong, the case back is wrong etc etc. Many people have already reported this to eBay and it’s being discussed on a number of forums.

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    I have spoken with Mr. Long.

    It was deeply unpleasant.

    He says that the watch will be removed from sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    I have spoken with Mr. Long.

    It was deeply unpleasant.

    He says that the watch will be removed from sale.
    The only time this guy removes something from sale is when its sold, he may take it down from eBay but he'll sure as hell try and sell it somewhere else..

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    Beware "scowersers."

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    Are we talking of bob long or Bungay Norfolk the guy who sells the dodgy Rolex and Tudor watches ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    Are we talking of bob long or Bungay Norfolk the guy who sells the dodgy Rolex and Tudor watches ?
    The one and same - you missed out dubious provenance cars too, from a quick Google search.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    You guys aren't suggesting there's a



    here, are you ?

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    What a comic, back to the watch, although images were poor was it a complete fake, major franken or minor franken of a 5517/13?

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    The watch shown at least bore significant parts and features that were not correct for a military issue Rolex.

    That "5517" on the underside of a lug was one problem and these images (from my genuine examples) illustrate inter alia how far the hour hand should extend towards the quarter indices :



    Last edited by Haywood_Milton; 15th February 2020 at 01:46.

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    I know he’s sold fakes and told pork pies before but I’ve got no reason to not believe him this time. After all his Rolex main dealer has checked it out and given it the ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    I know he’s sold fakes and told pork pies before but I’ve got no reason to not believe him this time. After all his Rolex main dealer has checked it out and given it the ok.
    Are you on the wind up again? How many Rolex dealers are capable of legitimising a watch of this heritage, very very few is the answer..

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    ^^ maybe sarcasm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408 View Post
    ^^ maybe sarcasm?
    That's what I thought had it been anyone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Are you on the wind up again? How many Rolex dealers are capable of legitimising a watch of this heritage, very very few is the answer..
    Deary me

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    'Still for sale', according to littlegems121.

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    I replied to him with the following, will see what he responds with!!


    New message to: littlegems121
    Bob,

    Don’t try and bullshit, we all know what you are, if you wanted reminding there’s the small issue of the court case involving the totally fake Monte Carlo and then trying to flog the very same watch on to another unsuspecting buyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    'Still for sale', according to littlegems121.
    Only four items showing now, Gibson guitar, what looks to be a Trabat car, distributor and car spa.

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    Looks like a child as been let loose with some yellow paint on them hands


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    Excellent response Bob...



    So it turns out Bob thinks he’s never been to court over a watch.... is Bob telling Porkies again....

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    Is he now trying to drop the "Bob?"

    Search for Victor Long on Facebook, whose profile seems to include pictures of the subject and includes this text :

    "I Got divorced after 25 was a jeweller in east anglia for 25 years ,live a lot of my time in FLorida .... i was named Robert victor Long my friend call be BOb but i hate it hence Victor"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Is he now trying to drop the "Bob?"

    Search for Victor Long on Facebook, whose profile seems to include pictures of the subject and includes this text :

    "I Got divorced after 25 was a jeweller in east anglia for 25 years ,live a lot of my time in FLorida .... i was named Robert victor Long my friend call be BOb but i hate it hence Victor"

    LOLZ, if I wouldn't know better I could swear that spelling identified him as one of our LONGSTANDING member's (sic).

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