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    Movement tinkering

    I'm going to purchase a practice movement to TRY and strip then rebuild and was wondering if it was worth paying extra, for a swiss 6498 or a Chinese copy for a third of price including case?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Eta-6497-....c100005.m1851

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/44mm-Parn....c100005.m1851

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-V....c100005.m1851

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    Looks a fun idea, how would you know where it start?

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    Chinese copy people start on.

    Videos on youtube of step by step if I remember,

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    My advice is to start off on an old Swiss hand-wound non date movement, old watches can be picked up dirt cheap, I have a few old ones myself that would be ideal. Don't try to run before you can walk, you'll break things and make mistakes initially (unless you're extremely skilled). Everyone had to start somewhere, and everyone made mistakes. I broke a pallet lever pivot on a BHI course.....but I`ve never done it since and I`m obsessive about checking they pivots have located before tightening the pallet cock, to this day I still double check. Learning how to handle small parts is the first skill, you really need to master this before going near a movement.

    Best place to start is on an old pocket watch, that's what the BHI training course does. It's better to start with something that runs (just) and has no major faults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Looks a fun idea, how would you know where it start?
    youtube and net
    https://watchtoolkit.co.uk/2017/02/0...8-disassembly/
    Last edited by bally796; 10th February 2020 at 22:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    My advice is to start off on an old Swiss hand-wound non date movement, old watches can be picked up dirt cheap, I have a few old ones myself that would be ideal. Don't try to run before you can walk, you'll break things and make mistakes initially (unless you're extremely skilled). Everyone had to start somewhere, and everyone made mistakes. I broke a pallet lever pivot on a BHI course.....but I`ve never done it since and I`m obsessive about checking they pivots have located before tightening the pallet cock, to this day I still double check. Learning how to handle small parts is the first skill, you really need to master this before going near a movement.

    Best place to start is on an old pocket watch, that's what the BHI training course does. It's better to start with something that runs (just) and has no major faults.
    How much would you spend on the first one? the reason i was looking at 6498 movement is there is loads of stuff on taking apart and rebuilding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xellos99 View Post
    Chinese copy people start on.

    Videos on youtube of step by step if I remember,
    yes you are right there are quite a few on the internet. and the copy movement are reasonable

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    The 6498 is a pretty good movement for beginners - the BHI use it on the Basic Mechanical Watch course. Even so, I'd buy a bag of old movements on eBay and get used to stripping and reassembling them without losing/breaking bits before you splash out on a new movement!

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    Iíll see what I can dig out, I should be able to find a couple.

    I started from scratch in 2010, my background was in classic car work (hobby) and I had a career as an industrial chemist which involved lots of lab work.

    Possibly the biggest transferrable skill has been problem- solving rather than the hands- on stuff. Watch work is quite a unique skill, the only way to get a feel for it (literally) is by doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Iíll see what I can dig out, I should be able to find a couple.

    I started from scratch in 2010, my background was in classic car work (hobby) and I had a career as an industrial chemist which involved lots of lab work.

    Possibly the biggest transferrable skill has been problem- solving rather than the hands- on stuff. Watch work is quite a unique skill, the only way to get a feel for it (literally) is by doing it.
    If you have a couple that would be great. PM me and let me know cost movement and postage. what your opinion on movement holders? cheap of ebay or https://www.hswalsh.com/product/berg...-holder-hm4040
    Again cheers for the advice

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    Just purchased this off ebay Marina Militaire 47mm UNITAS 6497 MOVEMENT "LEFTY" Fiddy PAM Watch to have a go at stripping and rebuilding using instruction from the net

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    Quote Originally Posted by bally796 View Post
    Just purchased this off ebay Marina Militaire 47mm UNITAS 6497 MOVEMENT "LEFTY" Fiddy PAM Watch to have a go at stripping and rebuilding using instruction from the net
    It arrived https://s1132.photobucket.com/user/b...?sort=3&page=1 The movement looks same as the one's Cousins are selling
    Last edited by bally796; 15th February 2020 at 19:07.

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